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Definitely no problem at 11 a year
Definitely no problem at 11 a year
When I’ve asked scouts and capologists to estimate Jones’ next contract, most opinions land somewhere in the $40 million over four years ballpark. However, a recent article by John Hollinger discussed the possibility of Jones signing a four-year, $70 million contract.That Hollinger number is just crazy, no way he gets more than Tyus. He's a future backup, which is nice to have but you can replace him fairly cheap. 10M per year sounds more like it and even then, 4 years also seems like a lot, I'd do 3 years 30M otherwise just let him walk and send a couple second rounders to Washington for Tyus and be done with it.Looking at what comparable players received last summer, it’s safe to say Jones lands somewhere between what his big brother Tyus Jones got from the Memphis Grizzlies ($29 million over two years) and what Delon Wright got from the Washington Wizards ($16 million over two years).
If my man Tre gets 4yrs/70mil, I would wish him a huge congrats and good luck with his new team
4/40 seems a little bit on the expensive side for a projected backup to me but with the rising cap who knows. Can’t see another team giving him that much with so many PGs around the league nowadays. Spurs will probably take care of him, though, especially since Pop likes him as a big part of the team culture, not just a future back up. A frontloaded deal would be awesome, it won’t affect the cap space for this summer and his cap hold is tiny.
I'm a little outdated on contract negotiations but isn't 10 millions per year way too much for a backup PG?
Tre won't get many suitors, if any, I don't know why the Spurs should outbid themselves. I don't see why Tre would be getting more than those 5.2 millions of the qualyfing offer, tbh.
$45M/3 after the Spurs use their cap space is my guess.
I wouldn’t want him at 10 per. If he were a FA from another team i can’t imagine us wanting to sign him to that kind of money. RFA tender. If he wants 10 per I’d only consider it on a 2 year deal with a club option tbh. I think he's like a 3/21 type player tbh. absolutely dont see good teams thinking "this guy is worth using all or most of our MLE on"
Last edited by spurraider21; 06-26-2023 at 11:38 AM.
Anything over $12-$13M/per is too much imo. Love Tre and I know Pop wants him back, but he’s an undersized, backup PG who’s still a poor 3-Point shooter. Hopefully the market is dry and he winds up back in San Antone though cause we need him given our PG situation.
The cap has ballooned lately. 10m is mid level give or take.
Tyus Jones didn't get that, which team is going to give Tre that much when he can't shoot from 3? Also, if the Spurs are going to overpay to not disrupt team chemistry, make it a 2 year deal, team option 3rd, or you might be shooting yourself in the foot for '25 free agency (the Spurs could be big time players).
A reason for Spurs to not sign Tre Jones to an extension would be to maximize cap space. His cap hold will be his qualifying offer of $5.2M which is less than what would have been the first year of his extension.
There is the whole "patience" talk from Spurs which would suggest a quiet off-season but who knows...
3-year deal with a club option on the 3rd should be fine. 2025 FA market is where the Spurs might get lucky and land a big fish.
Tyus wasn't the starter and signed his contract years ago. Jones may be a backup, but he's not now. The team doesn't have a ton of leverage on him. Completely different situation than Tyus, who was at best in a position like Zach Collins is now.
Tyus signed his contract less than a year ago and he had Ja Morant ahead of him, whereas Tre was fighting for minutes with rookie Blake Wesley and a bunch of guys out of position. Those are not small details.
Agreed. For a sturdy rotation player that's a no-brainer number.
Two birds one stone:
(1) re-sign Tre
(2) front load his deal so the spurs get closer to the floor
Mid level this year (league average salary) is $12.4M.
Wondered if they told him that, or if Tre wanted to bet on himself. My understanding is that his extension number was lower than perhaps what he could get in restricted free agency. Who knows.
Tre wasn't fighting for minutes with anyone. That's dishonestly portraying the situation. Tre is a starter and is going to ask for a starter's salary. Tyus signed knowing he was a backup. There was no talk of Wesley taking the nod. If the Spurs bring in a capable PG, the leverage calculation will change. But for now, the Spurs have no business asking him to be paid like they don't value him while they apparently value him enough to not get someone better.
And I want them to get someone better or at least another guy who could start like Micic. I want them to use cap and assets to attack their weaknesses. But if they "like what they have" then they're going to have to pay up for it.
Listen, you can disagree with me all you want, but you seem to have a habit of calling people dishonest (or their portrayal of a given situation) when you don't agree with their takes (I can search you if you want proof), and if anything that description fits your comment that conveniently disregarded the cir stances under which each one was starting or not. So before making such a comment, look inwards and check if you're not projecting.
how often are teams burning all or nearly all of their MLE on a guy projected to be their backup PG?
Move on for anything over 6 mil for 2 years.
Trying to build a Championship here not more Pops Pets bull .
"That said, the news for Jones wasn’t all positive last season. He shot only 28.5% from three-point range despite rarely being defended beyond the arc. While he passed the ball well in transition, his halfcourt playmaking remained rudimentary at best. Though his assist rate was up, his turnover rate was up even more.
Jones also had trouble finishing in the paint. Coming off of a season in which he hit half of his shots between three and ten feet, Jones shot only 38.5% from that range last season. Specifically, his floaters and runners weren’t nearly as dependable. As a result, his two-point percentage decreased from 54.2% to 50.6%."
Could easily find a replacement who could do that for far less. Prolly even the right rookie.
Hope he comes back, but at a good salary.
10 per year is the absolute max and I hope it's less than that
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