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    Hendricks/Lauri/Kessler is a very good frontcourt core.

    Laugh all you want.

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    Hendricks/Lauri/Kessler is a very good frontcourt core.

    Laugh all you want.
    Yes... prime Wemby stoppers. Lauri Markkanen and John Collins are... Wemby stoppers. That's why they're signed, to be Wemby stoppers.

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    Collins will play better in Utah I suspect; t young is the problem

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    Would be surprising. Spurs should be all over this if so. Darius Garland for Toronto’s FRP next season + multiple 2RP’s. Who says no (besides the Cavs).


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    Spurs should be all over this. Darius Garland for Toronto’s FRP next season + multiple 2RP’s. Who says no (besides the Cavs).

    They will want our whole pick bag, and if it doesn't work out, we're screwed, with no assets left and that awful contract.

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    Garland is a good player but overpaid. The Spurs are better off maxing Reaves for half the money Garland makes with no picks included.

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    Yea I agree. They’d want too much in return for sure, and Garland’s definitely overpaid. He isn’t the greatest defender either, though he’s not terrible on that end. He’s a great 3-Point shooter on high volume though and is only 23 years old. Somewhat surprised they might be looking to move him already.

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    I just don't see it, at all.

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    also gives them a floor if he's healthy. i dont like him, but he's an offensive engine
    Especially for the opposing team's guards

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    Two years too old. If Wemby develops as we expect and Dame was 32 two summers from now I'd be all over trading for him.

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    Garland would be freaking awesome, but no way the spurs would trade right now imo

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    Hard pass. Would cost to much to get him and he’d prob bounce in 2025 anyways. Even he didn’t, he’ll be 35 then. Doesn’t make sense for us at his age. Much rather continue build this thing organically tbh.

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    Garland is a good player but overpaid. The Spurs are better off maxing Reaves for half the money Garland makes with no picks included.
    Maxing Reaves is a horrible idea. He had one good postseason run. A long way from being a proven player let alone a scale max contract.

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    Hard pass. Would cost to much to get him and he’d prob bounce in 2025 anyways. Even he didn’t, he’ll be 35 then. Doesn’t make sense for us at his age. Much rather continue build this thing organically tbh.
    Yeah not at all interested in doing what Phoenix did with Ayton and rushing Victor to trying to compete right now. At least this year needs to be about developing Victor, Jeremy, and Devin so that hopefully they can be a contending core in 2-3 years. Ideally I'd like to spend a couple of years just developing and not worrying too much when the young guys make mistakes but with the first Atlanta pick being in 2025 might need to move the plan up a year since next summer might be the best time for the Spurs to be able to land a star with their draft capital.

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    Garland is a good player but overpaid. The Spurs are better off maxing Reaves for half the money Garland makes with no picks included.
    lakers insist that they will match any offer for Reaves, even if it's the max.

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    lakers insist that they will match any offer for Reaves, even if it's the max.
    Then max him and make the Lakers pay. It's seems like the Spurs wont be very active in free agency anyway so locking up that money waiting for the Lakers to match isn't the end of the world.

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    Spurs should get on the Garland thing. One of the few stars that actually makes sense on our team. Cavs would want players back though. His last year is on 44 million. Lillard is on 60, huge difference. Like I said we can afford to overpay until 2027 and with the cap increasing by 10% his deal won‘t look that bad in the long run either. Spurs should definitely call

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    Then max him and make the Lakers pay. It's seems like the Spurs wont be very active in free agency anyway so locking up that money waiting for the Lakers to match isn't the end of the world.
    no, no, no lol if you max him he's yours. Imo Reaves is a good player but not worth more than 15-18 millions max.

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    Spurs should get on the Garland thing. One of the few stars that actually makes sense on our team. Cavs would want players back though. His last year is on 44 million. Lillard is on 60, huge difference. Like I said we can afford to overpay until 2027 and with the cap increasing by 10% his deal won‘t look that bad in the long run either. Spurs should definitely call

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    no, no, no lol if you max him he's yours. Imo Reaves is a good player but not worth more than 15-18 millions max.
    Win Share Per 48

    Reaves: 142
    Dev: 51
    Keldon: 30

    VORP.
    Reaves: 1.2
    Dev: .7
    Keldon: .1

    ORtg:
    Reaves: 129
    Dev: 110
    Keldon: 108

    DRtg
    Reaves: 117
    Dev: 120
    Keldon: 122

    Spurs are paying Keldon 20 million this season btw.

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    I'd take Garland all day. But as the above post shows, it makes no sense for Cleveland to move him.

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    Win Share Per 48

    Reaves: 142
    Dev: 51
    Keldon: 30

    VORP.
    Reaves: 1.2
    Dev: .7
    Keldon: .1

    ORtg:
    Reaves: 129
    Dev: 110
    Keldon: 108

    DRtg
    Reaves: 117
    Dev: 120
    Keldon: 122

    Spurs are paying Keldon 20 million this season btw.
    Forum posters are still struggling to contextualize what the going rate is for role players. While I think the ugly advanced stats for the Spurs need to be taken into context given the blatant tanking that was going on, your point that Reaves wasn’t just on a playoff hot streak holds true.

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    Win Share Per 48

    Reaves: 142
    Dev: 51
    Keldon: 30

    VORP.
    Reaves: 1.2
    Dev: .7
    Keldon: .1

    ORtg:
    Reaves: 129
    Dev: 110
    Keldon: 108

    DRtg
    Reaves: 117
    Dev: 120
    Keldon: 122

    Spurs are paying Keldon 20 million this season btw.
    I'm not saying you're wrong but i'm not totally sold on the win share ( and all the stats you're mentionned) and i'll not take another contract to justify a contract for a player.

    More than that, Reaves had a really good season but i may be wrong as i don't see a lot of possible improvement in his game. Like he reachs something near his ceilling.

    About the stats, the context could matter, the team you play with ...

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    Garland is a good player but overpaid. The Spurs are better off maxing Reaves for half the money Garland makes with no picks included.
    Grossly overpaying middling players is suicide in this new era of the second apron. Austin Reaves is this year's Jordan Poole and maxing him would make him slightly more expensive than Garland. A max contract for Reaves would be 4 years, $143 million. No thanks.

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