You claimed I went into hiding because of January 6th.No one believes you were hiding?
Keep dodging about hiding; you were caught lying; your doubling down on your lies is pathetic.
You provided no proof about being in korea; there is plenty of internet in korea as everyone knows so you had access and could have posted; and you are fooling no one with your lies.
Only failed shtick is you lying about hiding so keep doubling down.
You can't even keep up with your lies (e.g., 3 week, 2 months, several months before J6).
You claimed I said there wasn't internet in Korea.
Your claims, your burden of proof.
Mueller didn't convict a single Trump person with conspiring or colluding with a single Russian to interfere in our elections. Mueller didn't even accuse a single Trump person with conspiring or colluding with a single Russian to interfere in our elections.
Your attempts to conflate actual Russian interference with the Russiagate hoax are amusing.
Another page, another RandomGuy dodge. You are forcing me to waste site bandwidth, pick your favorite Steele quote and save site resources.
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Why does his presence in the country have anything to do with the veracity of the report? Did you read the report/dossier at all?
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That is some more of what was confirmed by the do ent.
Every WHO mentioned in this dossier as having contacts with Russians that people have done any digging about has panned out. I care less about grammar, and more about things that can be verified.
The dossier, for all its faults, is the roadmap for the investigation.
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Steele's dossier describes a consistent, high-level effort to coordinate efforts between the Russian government, and the Trump campaign. It names Manafort directly.
The same Manafort at the meeting in Trump tower.
As would be expected with any raw intelligence compilation some of it has been actively corroborated, some not, but the overall assertions contained in this, outside of the pee tape, have begun to be borne out.
If you haven't actually read the whole thing, you probably should.
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The Steele Dossier is evidence. Not evidence you like, or consider valid, but it is evidence.
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What is interesting is how many things that can be corroborated out of the Steele dossier have panned out, as time goes by.
At this point, I am sadly confident that, as soon as Trump is out of office and not useful to the Russian government anymore, sex tapes of Donny are going to come out.
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Pretty much what the Steele dossier alleges. A sustained effort of coordination and intelligence sharing.
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Steele dossier details a sustained relationship, with information flowing both ways, and meetings between Trump campaign and various levels of campaign officials.
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After Trump has ceased being useful, whatever the Russians have has a good chance of coming out. Putin has enough money, so he might not care if Trumps businesses don't pay back the loans.
At that point, the sheer mayhem that such tapes would create will be irresistible to someone attempting to de-stabilize the western political system, and liberal democracy.
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I think the Steele dossier is broadly accurate, as it has proven so far.
Russian intelligence has compromised Donald Trump in some way, and Crooked Donny knows this.
As noted in the dossier, there has been a concerted effort on the part of Russian intelligence services to recruit assets for decades, as they have always done.
Specifically, I think they have given Trump a list of people they find "acceptable" for certain posts, with the criteria "acceptable" being that these people are either Russia-friendly or the Russians have leverage on them. This would explain how so many people in Trumps orbit just "happen" to have Russian ties.
Below Trump there was data flowing back and forth, again outlined fairly clearly in the dossier.
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They used data garnered from the RNC databases to give to the Russians for their targeted disinformation campaign. The campaign staff also was used as a conduit to give information on Russian oligarch economic activity to Putin, so he can keep tabs on his "allies".
This was outlined in the Steele Dossier, if you had read it. The attempts by Carter Page and Manafort to coordinate with the Russians was part of that, and both were mentioned, as one of the facts that actually panned out from this do ent.
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Cir stantial ad hominem
Funding source is irrelevant to underlying truth of any claims in them.
I told your dumb ass to look this up, but you can't seem to pass up an opportunity to play in your own waste.
Fallacy occurs when someone uses unsound reasoning to support a claim or argument. Cir stantial Ad Hominem occurs when someone attacks a claim by saying that the person making the claim is only making it because it's in his/her interest or because of his/her cir stances.
Correct critical thinking answer to your question is: Doesn't really matter.
Is the do ent false because of who paid for it?
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Steele's contacts were somewhat unique, which is why he was brought in.
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I find it... bizarre... how badly the right wants Steele to be some sort of villain here. Steele has paid an incredible price, as have some of his likely sources[Russian KGB general murdered, spy and daughter poisoned], for coming forward.
IF that dossier was made up out of whole cloth.. Russian intelligence certainly seems to be awfully determined to kill people it knows weren't involved... just sayin
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Can you provide some background information on how you came to the conclusion that the FISA warrant "heavily relied" on the Steele Dossier?
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That is the problem for the people saying how politically motivated this thing is so it isn't trustworthy.
Everything that can be verified, has been.
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Oddly enough, everything in the Steele dossier that can be independently verified... checks out.
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So basically the Steele Dossier was right, and the more they dug, the more stuff of what he was doing they found, exactly what one would expect from someone actually doing something wrong that is investigated.
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Steele is very credible. That is why you fail.
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There has already been collusion, you witted simpleton.
The Steele dossier outlined a bunch of people in Trumps orbit, including Cohen who met with various Russian officials. Every single one of those meetings was confirmed to one degree or another, but they could never quite find enough on Cohen to 100% confirm it. *from what was available publicly.
So now, Cohen is going to detail just how he committed treason with the S bag Donny.
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trying to laugh it all off.
You are one deluded chicken er.
Steele Dossier is batting 100% when it comes to outlining people related to Trump that colluded with Russia in some way.
What will your dumb ass say when Cohen starts talking about his meeting in Prague, moron?
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I think, as the Steele dossier said waaaay back, that there was some high level coordination of efforts, i.e. collusion, with Russian intelligence. I guessed it was data sharing, because there were and are open source reports of such. We are starting to see that, like just about everything else that can be verified, pan out.
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Try harder to deflect, you dense idiot.
You cannot change fact that you were hiding; you were not in korea; and what is even funnier is you want people to take your word!
Not that anyone other than Spurs Homer actually cares about this but people don't need to take my word, they can simply check my posting history to see both of your claims are lies.Try harder to deflect, you dense idiot.
You cannot change fact that you were hiding; you were not in korea; and what is even funnier is you want people to take your word!
And it's so simple to expose you as a liar.
Instead of supporting your claims you run the failed schtick®️ and flail around and dodge, project, deflect, and post emojis.
Your claims, your burden of proof.
Step up or run the failed schtick®️
Not sure why you play this game- all your bull was debunked - yet you continue the charade
mueller report already said
russia offerd help
trump accepted
many illicit contacts were in the report (your claim is wrong - that because it didnt result in a conspiracy conviction= it never happened is disengenous garbage- the illicit contacts occured regardless of your garbage spin)
but you never learn
Mueller didn't convict a single Trump person with conspiring or colluding with a single Russian to interfere in our elections. Mueller didn't even accuse a single Trump person with conspiring or colluding with a single Russian to interfere in our elections.
Your attempts to conflate actual Russian interference with the Russiagate hoax are amusing.
Are you worried your ST political forum reputation is going to take another hit?
so the guy conducted an investigation and didnt try to overreach with wild accusations and prosecutions? cool
Imagine the outrage qtsa felt when I first called him out on his “I was korea” lie, as korea has great internet. He is too much of an idiot to understand he is being mocked!
As if there is no internet in Korea!
Damn, that is a lame excuse for hiding.
Imagine the outrage qtsa felt when I first called him out on his “I was korea” lie, as korea has great internet. He is too much of an idiot to understand he is being mocked!
pizzagate should have taught him that his source of information is bull propaganda to placate rubes…
but he is absolutely tone deaf
You claimed I went into hiding because of January 6th.Imagine the outrage qtsa felt when I first called him out on his “I was korea” lie, as korea has great internet. He is too much of an idiot to understand he is being mocked!
You claimed I said there wasn't internet in Korea.
In an attempt to prove your claim you just linked a quote to the thread that proves I said neither.
You just further ruined your already failed schtick®️
You never proved you were in Korea; bottom line, you were hiding.You claimed I went into hiding because of January 6th.
You claimed I said there wasn't internet in Korea.
In an attempt to prove your claim you just linked a quote to the thread that proves I said neither.
You just further ruined your already failed schtick®️
That you are being mocked has nothing to do with your lies about hiding.
Your continued dodging and flailing schtick is derp level lame.
No one is buying it, just like no one bought the pizzagate/q/alien space craft conspiracies you repeated.
You claimed I was hiding because of January 6th. Your linked quote to that thread refutes your own claim.You never proved you were in Korea; bottom line, you were hiding.
That you are being mocked has nothing to do with your lies about hiding.
Your continued dodging and flailing schtick is derp level lame.
No one is buying it, just like no one bought the pizzagate/q/alien space craft conspiracies you repeated.
Now you will need to create a new lie of why I stopped posting to continue your failed schtick®️. So what’s the new reason I stopped posting before January 6th?
Here I a TSA Style rebuttal that does not take forever:
Mr Mueller to look into:
- The Russian government's efforts to interfere in the election
- Any links or co-ordination between Russia and Trump campaign-linked individuals
- Any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation
His investigation ventured into work done by former Trump advisers and Russian nationals. Thirty-four people have been charged with wrongdoing.
What did he find?
Mr Mueller's 448-page report said it had not established that the Trump campaign criminally conspired with Russia to influence the election.
However, it did detail 10 instances where Mr Trump had possibly attempted to impede the investigation and stated the report did not exonerate Mr Trump.
Mr Mueller reiterated that in a rare statement following the end of the inquiry and said legal guidelines prevent the indictment of a sitting president. He said if his team had had confidence that Mr Trump "clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so".
The real problem Imo was Schiff jumping the gun. There was so much Russian meddling and Trump asking for the Russians to find info that Schiff assumed this orange idiot of a thug had enough brains to actually set up something that really would be collusion.
What do you think you’ve rebutted?
Welcome to the "take me at my word, I was working in korea, not hiding 3 weeks, 2 months, several months before J6" rodeo, please come again.You claimed I was hiding because of January 6th. Your linked quote to that thread refutes your own claim.
Now you will need to create a new lie of why I stopped posting to continue your failed schtick®️. So what’s the new reason I stopped posting before January 6th?
Strzok was accused of nothing by Durham?At least I can finally confirm you've been trolling this whole time.
This is not really complicated.
You brought up the 90s, not me. Now you're trying to run away from it. A 30 point increase between 2020 and 2022 isn't good, but it's still substantially less than the 90s. I mean, by a whole lot.
I live in Los Angeles, so there's nothing to be insulated about. The biggest issue in LA, at least, isn't crime. It's about the same rate of any big city. The biggest issue here is housing and cost of living.
Was reading a poll recently, 70% of Californians want to stay and live in California, but only ~40% can afford to. That is ultimately the problem that needs to be addressed. And that's exactly what I tell people here when they ask: living in California is awesome, but you need to be able to afford it.
Newsome is lucky that the GOP imploded and moved further right, which makes them unelectable in any state with majority college educated people. That's largely the case in California.
It's actually sad watching republican nominees running as pretend-Democrats, and still losing badly because nobody is buying the con.
I mean, let's put this in context here. Florida isn't a traditionally Red state. Didn't Obama carry it back to back? It's a battleground State that currently is leaning right due to the boomer retirees/transplants.
The prototypical Red states are Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Tennessee.. these are amongst the poorest, most uneducated and crime riddled States in the nation.
So when we talk about "conscience", the nightmare scenario is turning into one of those States, tbh...
RandomGuy I see you are active and posting today. Pick your favorite Steele sucking quote.
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Why does his presence in the country have anything to do with the veracity of the report? Did you read the report/dossier at all?
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That is some more of what was confirmed by the do ent.
Every WHO mentioned in this dossier as having contacts with Russians that people have done any digging about has panned out. I care less about grammar, and more about things that can be verified.
The dossier, for all its faults, is the roadmap for the investigation.
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Steele's dossier describes a consistent, high-level effort to coordinate efforts between the Russian government, and the Trump campaign. It names Manafort directly.
The same Manafort at the meeting in Trump tower.
As would be expected with any raw intelligence compilation some of it has been actively corroborated, some not, but the overall assertions contained in this, outside of the pee tape, have begun to be borne out.
If you haven't actually read the whole thing, you probably should.
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The Steele Dossier is evidence. Not evidence you like, or consider valid, but it is evidence.
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What is interesting is how many things that can be corroborated out of the Steele dossier have panned out, as time goes by.
At this point, I am sadly confident that, as soon as Trump is out of office and not useful to the Russian government anymore, sex tapes of Donny are going to come out.
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Pretty much what the Steele dossier alleges. A sustained effort of coordination and intelligence sharing.
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Steele dossier details a sustained relationship, with information flowing both ways, and meetings between Trump campaign and various levels of campaign officials.
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After Trump has ceased being useful, whatever the Russians have has a good chance of coming out. Putin has enough money, so he might not care if Trumps businesses don't pay back the loans.
At that point, the sheer mayhem that such tapes would create will be irresistible to someone attempting to de-stabilize the western political system, and liberal democracy.
--
I think the Steele dossier is broadly accurate, as it has proven so far.
Russian intelligence has compromised Donald Trump in some way, and Crooked Donny knows this.
As noted in the dossier, there has been a concerted effort on the part of Russian intelligence services to recruit assets for decades, as they have always done.
Specifically, I think they have given Trump a list of people they find "acceptable" for certain posts, with the criteria "acceptable" being that these people are either Russia-friendly or the Russians have leverage on them. This would explain how so many people in Trumps orbit just "happen" to have Russian ties.
Below Trump there was data flowing back and forth, again outlined fairly clearly in the dossier.
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They used data garnered from the RNC databases to give to the Russians for their targeted disinformation campaign. The campaign staff also was used as a conduit to give information on Russian oligarch economic activity to Putin, so he can keep tabs on his "allies".
This was outlined in the Steele Dossier, if you had read it. The attempts by Carter Page and Manafort to coordinate with the Russians was part of that, and both were mentioned, as one of the facts that actually panned out from this do ent.
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Cir stantial ad hominem
Funding source is irrelevant to underlying truth of any claims in them.
I told your dumb ass to look this up, but you can't seem to pass up an opportunity to play in your own waste.
Fallacy occurs when someone uses unsound reasoning to support a claim or argument. Cir stantial Ad Hominem occurs when someone attacks a claim by saying that the person making the claim is only making it because it's in his/her interest or because of his/her cir stances.
Correct critical thinking answer to your question is: Doesn't really matter.
Is the do ent false because of who paid for it?
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Steele's contacts were somewhat unique, which is why he was brought in.
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I find it... bizarre... how badly the right wants Steele to be some sort of villain here. Steele has paid an incredible price, as have some of his likely sources[Russian KGB general murdered, spy and daughter poisoned], for coming forward.
IF that dossier was made up out of whole cloth.. Russian intelligence certainly seems to be awfully determined to kill people it knows weren't involved... just sayin
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Can you provide some background information on how you came to the conclusion that the FISA warrant "heavily relied" on the Steele Dossier?
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That is the problem for the people saying how politically motivated this thing is so it isn't trustworthy.
Everything that can be verified, has been.
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Oddly enough, everything in the Steele dossier that can be independently verified... checks out.
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So basically the Steele Dossier was right, and the more they dug, the more stuff of what he was doing they found, exactly what one would expect from someone actually doing something wrong that is investigated.
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Steele is very credible. That is why you fail.
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There has already been collusion, you witted simpleton.
The Steele dossier outlined a bunch of people in Trumps orbit, including Cohen who met with various Russian officials. Every single one of those meetings was confirmed to one degree or another, but they could never quite find enough on Cohen to 100% confirm it. *from what was available publicly.
So now, Cohen is going to detail just how he committed treason with the S bag Donny.
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trying to laugh it all off.
You are one deluded chicken er.
Steele Dossier is batting 100% when it comes to outlining people related to Trump that colluded with Russia in some way.
What will your dumb ass say when Cohen starts talking about his meeting in Prague, moron?
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I think, as the Steele dossier said waaaay back, that there was some high level coordination of efforts, i.e. collusion, with Russian intelligence. I guessed it was data sharing, because there were and are open source reports of such. We are starting to see that, like just about everything else that can be verified, pan out.
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I do see you are begging for more of my time than I care to give you. That makes me happy. Seven mentions means you really think you have something here, and are more than a bit butthurt about Trump being indicted.
What is funny to me is that your attack here is based on the fetid-garbage beliefs about reality that you have. In this sewer the Steele dossier was completely made up and nothing in it was right. Because that is the kind of thing that the right wing does, it thinks everybody else operates that way.
In the end Trump is still a traitor, and is still a criminal. Deal with that. The STeele dossier, as I mentioned above details several meetings between Trumpers and Russians.
Russia for its part despises democracy an the US in general. Trump was seen as a way to damage both, and was actively supported by Russia. That is indisputable.
Trumps sucks, and even Russia knows it.
Last edited by RandomGuy; 07-02-2023 at 10:04 AM.
"the Crossfire Hurricane investigators did not and could not corroborate any of the substantive allegations contained in the Steele reporting."
You mentioned a lot ing more than that about the Steele dossier. Just man up and say you 100% fell for the bull Steele dossier. Pretending you didn't is an embarrassing look.
CharlesMcGonigal – Special Agent in charge of the Counterintelligence Division for the New York Field Office. Previously Section Chief of the Cyber-Counterintelligence Coordination Section at FBI Headquarters.https://themessenger.com/news/fbi-co...oleg-deripaskaA disgraced former FBI spy catcher faces up to five years in prison Thursday for betraying America by exploiting his experience on behalf of a Russian oligarch described as a "henchman" for President Vladimir Putin.
Charles McGonigal, the former special agent in charge of the bureau's New York Counterintelligence Bureau, secretly used his job to compile a "Rolodex of rogues" to whom he could sell his services after retiring, federal prosecutors wrote in court papers ahead of his sentencing
McGonigal retired from the FBI in September 2018 after exploiting his job as head of the New York Counterintelligence Division to compile what authorities called a "Rolodex of rogues" from whom he could profit as a private citizen.In addition to the Deripaska case, McGonigal pleaded guilty earlier this year to Washington, D.C., to secretly accepting $225,000 from an Albanian government official while working for the FBI.
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