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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    sochan not a 3

    keldon is the odd man out. or worst case you just have really good depth and let keldon feast on backups. or let reaves be your 6th man in a manu role
    Sochan sure ain't gonna be the 4 here and can't imagine he'd be able to handle the point so that pretty much leaves the SF role.

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    You can find highlight videos that make Austin Rivers look like a HOF talent.
    austin rivers has been in the nba for a decade. of course its easy to find clips for him.

    the highlights arent meant to show that he is this good on every possession. its reflective of a guy who can create for himself and isnt just a catch and shoot white boy feasting off the of lebron

    reaves' performance also backed up by numbers, both counting stats and advanced stats. cant do that for austin rivers

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    Sochan sure ain't gonna be the 4 here and can't imagine he'd be able to handle the point so that pretty much leaves the SF role.
    thing long term wemby is the 5. or sochan bulks up more to the point he can hang with centers the way draymond does from time to time. there are only 6 reg season games per year against Jokic/Embiid

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    Austin Reaves is a role player.

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    Austin Reaves is a role player.
    one thing thats certain is that as long as the spurs acquire him, you will change your tune on him

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    still waiting for this one too

    can someone give me some recent examples of the supposed LAL value boost?

    ie a player who was on the lakers, put up good numbers, was overvalued and then went elsewhere and suddenly sucked?

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    Austin Reaves is a role player.
    no ing , who said he was an all-star? great analysis

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    You can find highlight videos that make Austin Rivers look like a HOF talent.
    While i agree that highlight videos can make anyone look good, advanced stats don't. and they all point to Reaves being an impact player. He may be overrated by virtue of playing in LA and its true he benefits by playing next to AD/LBJ but isnt excelling in that type of role exactly what you'd want playing next to wemby?

    While I don't think he worth what he is going to be paid he is a top level role player imo, and he would fit seamlessly with our roster

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    reaves is not going to be a spur

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    still waiting for this one too
    Actually seems to usually be the opposite. Randle, Ingram, Lonzo, Hart, Clarkson....all played better after leaving LA

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    Actually seems to usually be the opposite. Randle, Ingram, Lonzo, Hart, Clarkson....all played better after leaving LA
    KCP became a starter on a champion, and Kuzma (who i dont like fwiw) is set to get paid. Zubac has been a solid starter on a contender as well

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    reaves is not going to be a spur
    probably not. but the reasons for dismissing him as a worthy player dont hold up

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    Reaves averaged 21 PPG in the Denver series. He ain't no slouch and looked unstoppable at times against Memphis. He's definitely in Keldon territory salary wise, maybe even Vassell. His playoff heroics can either be viewed as a fluke or you could ask yourself what could he do if you give him more shots? I wouldn't want to pay him 25 million per year either, but he might be worth it.

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    Reaves averaged 21 PPG in the Denver series. He ain't no slouch and looked unstoppable at times against Memphis. He's definitely in Keldon territory salary wise, maybe even Vassell. His playoff heroics can either be viewed as a fluke or you could ask yourself what could he do if you give him more shots? I wouldn't want to pay him 25 million per year either, but he might be worth it.
    people on this forum have gotten way too comfortable with losing and love the whole tanking thing so much they want to keep it up.

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    people on this forum have gotten way too comfortable with losing and love the whole tanking thing so much they want to keep it up.
    I mean the slow and steady approach is ok to me since we won't win a le in Wemby's first season. That shouldn't stop the Spurs from improving the roster though.

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    people on this forum have gotten way too comfortable with losing and love the whole tanking thing so much they want to keep it up.
    Goddamn Austin Reaves must be ing Michael Jordan. Call Wemby tell him we don't need him anymore.

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    would be great to force the lakers into that structure tbh


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    I think people are overlooking just how impactful 10%/year increases in the salary cap are in relation to something like maxing Reeves.

    Let's say it's 4/$101.9 as reported in the tweet above.

    Year One: Cap $136MM / Reeves $25.5MM 18.7% of the cap
    Year Two: Cap $149.6MM / Reeves $25.5MM 17.0% of the cap
    Year Three: Cap $164.6MM / Reeves $25.5MM 15.5% of the cap
    Year Four: Cap $181.1MM / Reeves $25.5MM 14.1% of the cap

    Think what you will of Austin Reeves, but a 4/100 deals (for the right players) will quickly start to look like a bargain.

    For this reason, I also think 4/100-110 is about right for Devin's extension.

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    yeah. this is largely a moot exercise because we dont really have any indication that the spurs are chasing reaves, and there appears to be a belief that the lakers would go so far as to match the max offer anyway, but its become a tiring trend to see people so reluctant to make roster improvements while also falling in love with every player that was on a 24 win team last year or whatever it was

    like... we shouldnt pursue a good center because "what about bassey" lol

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    Heard on the radio today that the Garland stuff is because Windhorst was discussing,he, Garland would be somebody the Cavs should use to get wing help and Mitc made him more available. Supposedly, Twitter took off saying Garland was available and Windhorst came back to say, no, that is not the case, it was him speculating.

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    The Reaves sucking has reach ST insanity levels. Dude averaged 13ppg. He’s a fine player but he’s nowhere near Keldon or 101 million dollar contract. Thank god you guys aren’t real GMs. You’d have this team buried in contracts in no time.

    That’s the exact kind of contract our front office has expressly stated they want to avoid.

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    Sochan sure ain't gonna be the 4 here and can't imagine he'd be able to handle the point so that pretty much leaves the SF role.
    It doesn't really matter what his "position" is. Sochan and Wemby will be on the floor together to start games and they will be on the floor together to end games.

    And he will be the "4" here after a year or so when Wemby is the full time center. The way things are looking spurs might actually do what i said they wouldn't and just outright start him at center day 1.

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    The Reaves sucking has reach ST insanity levels. Dude averaged 13ppg. He’s a fine player but he’s nowhere near Keldon or 101 million dollar contract. Thank god you guys aren’t real GMs. You’d have this team buried in contracts in no time.

    That’s the exact kind of contract our front office has expressly stated they want to avoid.
    FO: "We will avoid costly mistakes." "We will see what we have before moving forward."

    ST: "WWAAAAAAH ME WANT WHITE REDNECK BOY."

    LA: "We will match any offer for white redneck boy."

    ST: "WAAAWAWAWAAAAAH ME WANT WHITE REDNECK BOY."

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    one thing thats certain is that as long as the spurs acquire him, you will change your tune on him

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    Also, the way ST gets obsessed with all the worst contracts/players:

    Ben Simmons
    Toby Harris
    Deandre Ayton
    John Collins...

    I actually like Matt Reaves a little bit but am now starting to question that judgment.

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