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    this worked great in 2003
    Yeah, too bad we didn't sign Austin Reaves in 2003.

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    CHA thought to be looking to unload Haywards $31M expiring deal to help make space for several of the other players they want to bring back. I’d do it and ask them to modify their protections on the pick we own.

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    One name that has been rattling around the rumor mill in connection with the Celtics: forward Keita Bates-Diop, a solid all-around contributor for the Spurs last season who should be gettable on the cheap.

    According to an NBA source, it’s possible that the Spurs, who have ample cap space, could sign KBD and look to flip him later, or use him in in a sign-and-trade deal in the coming week.

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    Go get your bag Keita!

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    Flipping KBD in a sign and trade would be dope. He‘s perfect for contending teams without cap space

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    Flipping KBD in a sign and trade would be dope. He‘s perfect for contending teams without cap space
    Not sure he’s gonna be expensive enough to warrant a sign and trade. Even taxpayer MLE should be plenty

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    Not sure he’s gonna be expensive enough to warrant a sign and trade. Even taxpayer MLE should be plenty
    yeah I thought the same. That’s why I said it would be dope KBD ain‘t worth more than 2-3 million

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    Not sure if this has been posted but if trading Keldon for Brogdon and three future firsts is on the table, do you take it?
    https://hardwoodhoudini.com/2023/06/...brogdon-spurs/

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    Would be surprising. Spurs should be all over this if so. Darius Garland for Toronto’s FRP next season + multiple 2RP’s. Who says no (besides the Cavs).

    Interesting but at the same time I’m on surprised. I made a post last week about how I thought the Cavs and Wolves should do a deal involving Garland and KAT and sending Jarrett Allen to a third team.

    Also posted a few times over the last 6 months about how Garland and Mitc has not worked for the Cavs. They are basically net neutral when they’re on the court together and a net positive when one is on the bench. They need to break them up.

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    I mean, the team has told you what they're doing multiple times. They will not wilfully make long term mistakes. They want to see what works with Wembanyama.

    I get that you're in love with Arkansas boy for some reason. I get it. But signing any contract for more than this season, especially to the tune of $25 million, is a mistake, and they recognize it would be a mistake. The other half of the equation -- they don't know what works with big French kid. Signing a relative flash in the pan to a long term contract is definitely a mistake.

    Not as long as picking up, say, Damien Lillard or any other $40 million multiple year guy. But something they are not willing to do.

    They are not going to sacrifice flexibility moving forward to achieve your dreams of watching the Arkansas dreamboat play for the Spurs. They are not going to commit to any player for more than just taking one year of salary. He's going to be resigned for the Lakers anyway so it's a moot point.
    So let's be clear: Signing Reaves is only a mistake if he doesn't continue his level of play. If he's Wes Matthews 2.0 where he flashes but then continues to shine for years, it's obviously a different story. The Spurs or any team signing Reaves is going to have to figure that out. It's not common for the player to be elite for a season and then fall off. He could come back to Earth quite a bit and still be worth it. As I said, folks here are pretty comfortable with Vassell getting that kind of money. If folks thinks Vassell is obviously better, they probably didn't really watch Reaves. He's not standing in the corner knocking down wide-open threes. He doesn't have Devin's potential as an iso scorer, but he's a dynamic offensive player who's more consistent than anyone the Spurs have and who doesn't have the same glaring holes they do. Many players on the Lakers over the last few years have had the chance to benefit from Lebron and Davis. None has seized the moment like Reaves, just as none of the two-guards the Spurs tried before Danny Green was able to take advantage of what the Spurs were doing. There's no magic formula to make a player perform well.

    With all that said, I don't think I'm married to Reaves anymore than I want Jones to get a big deal, want the Spurs to trade for Simons or give Micic a bag. A lot of us can acknowledge the merits of a move and even advocate for it in an online discourse without being devoted to it. That's why the forum "obsesses over" Collins or Black or Prince or Kirilenko or Josh Howard or Grant Hill or any of the other player who've dominated the speculative threads. None of us care, really, I don't think. We talk about them because it's fun or interesting or outrageous or whatever. A lot of us enjoy things changing and may want them to continue to do so. And they will. This group will not be here forever. While the big names ST kicks around almost never come to SA, the idea of just keeping everything the same doesn't work either. It turns out the way for the Spurs to win their last le wasn't to just hope everyone developed. It was to make a big trade for a draft pick, to be willing to cut their highest pick in a while for a previous 10-day guy. It was to grab an unmotivated player from the buyout market and to poach an RFA to play over numerous young draft picks. There are plenty of twists and turns along the road as fans, man. There are many ways to engage with the process. If you want to believe in the 18 guys on the roster and hope they each becomes a key piece, that's valid. If you want to burn brain cells coming up with a bunch of hypothetical scenarios for how to improve the team, that's also valid.

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    Not sure if this has been posted but if trading Keldon for Brogdon and three future firsts is on the table, do you take it?
    https://hardwoodhoudini.com/2023/06/...brogdon-spurs/
    Got to know his exact injury status. If that is even possible.
    Last 4 games vs Miami to get eliminated were a disaster. His elbow was whack.

    Otherwise yes.

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    So let's be clear: Signing Reaves is only a mistake if he doesn't continue his level of play. If he's Wes Matthews 2.0 where he flashes but then continues to shine for years, it's obviously a different story. The Spurs or any team signing Reaves is going to have to figure that out. It's not common for the player to be elite for a season and then fall off.
    Watched Reaves closely and honestly a lot of his scores come off defense that only required basic level IQ and failed.
    If he can continue to exploit that, great.
    The NBA has indeed lost it's way fundamentally.

    But Lebron is a great set up player. Why he gets so much hate is kinda LOL to me.
    Is Reaves going to continue to get those set up shots with another team?
    We'll see.

    I don't want to Spurs forking 4 110 or whatever he's asking to find out.
    Only want virtually sure things to pair with Wemby. If that takes a couple years, fine.

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    So let's be clear: Signing Reaves is only a mistake if he doesn't continue his level of play. If he's Wes Matthews 2.0 where he flashes but then continues to shine for years, it's obviously a different story. The Spurs or any team signing Reaves is going to have to figure that out. It's not common for the player to be elite for a season and then fall off. He could come back to Earth quite a bit and still be worth it. As I said, folks here are pretty comfortable with Vassell getting that kind of money. If folks thinks Vassell is obviously better, they probably didn't really watch Reaves. He's not standing in the corner knocking down wide-open threes. He doesn't have Devin's potential as an iso scorer, but he's a dynamic offensive player who's more consistent than anyone the Spurs have and who doesn't have the same glaring holes they do. Many players on the Lakers over the last few years have had the chance to benefit from Lebron and Davis. None has seized the moment like Reaves, just as none of the two-guards the Spurs tried before Danny Green was able to take advantage of what the Spurs were doing. There's no magic formula to make a player perform well.

    With all that said, I don't think I'm married to Reaves anymore than I want Jones to get a big deal, want the Spurs to trade for Simons or give Micic a bag. A lot of us can acknowledge the merits of a move and even advocate for it in an online discourse without being devoted to it. That's why the forum "obsesses over" Collins or Black or Prince or Kirilenko or Josh Howard or Grant Hill or any of the other player who've dominated the speculative threads. None of us care, really, I don't think. We talk about them because it's fun or interesting or outrageous or whatever. A lot of us enjoy things changing and may want them to continue to do so. And they will. This group will not be here forever. While the big names ST kicks around almost never come to SA, the idea of just keeping everything the same doesn't work either. It turns out the way for the Spurs to win their last le wasn't to just hope everyone developed. It was to make a big trade for a draft pick, to be willing to cut their highest pick in a while for a previous 10-day guy. It was to grab an unmotivated player from the buyout market and to poach an RFA to play over numerous young draft picks. There are plenty of twists and turns along the road as fans, man. There are many ways to engage with the process. If you want to believe in the 18 guys on the roster and hope they each becomes a key piece, that's valid. If you want to burn brain cells coming up with a bunch of hypothetical scenarios for how to improve the team, that's also valid.
    Nice blasts from the past. Once upon a time it was Jermaine O'Neal and Corey Magette who this board was obsessed with. There's always a new flash in the pan. At least Reeves would only be 4/100 in an era where that is a moderate contract.

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    Nice blasts from the past. Once upon a time it was Jermaine O'Neal and Corey Magette who this board was obsessed with. There's always a new flash in the pan. At least Reeves would only be 4/100 in an era where that is a moderate contract.
    My favorite was Brad Miller

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    Yeah, too bad we didn't sign Austin Reaves in 2003.
    had they actually signed someone that could perform in the playoffs like him maybe they beat the Lakers you're right.

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    Goddamn Austin Reaves must be ing Michael Jordan. Call Wemby tell him we don't need him anymore.
    hes better than trotting out Julian Champagne or however else you ing pronounce it.


    I had no idea this 20 win team was full of all stars. holy .

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    Not sure if this has been posted but if trading Keldon for Brogdon and three future firsts is on the table, do you take it?
    https://hardwoodhoudini.com/2023/06/...brogdon-spurs/
    no.

    Brogdon is so broken the Clippers wouldn't take him. Jesus Christ.

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    no.

    Brogdon is so broken the Clippers wouldn't take him. Jesus Christ.
    I think that’s what the 3 firsts are for

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    hes better than trotting out Julian Champagne or however else you ing pronounce it.


    I had no idea this 20 win team was full of all stars. holy .
    Don't know how this is hard to understand. The team is not likely to spend wads of its resources upgrading positions when it doesn't know what it needs. Champagnie is incredibly cheap, Reaves is incredibly expensive.

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    I think that’s what the 3 firsts are for
    yeah cause they don't have enough draft picks to not use as it is

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    Don't know how this is hard to understand. The team is not likely to spend wads of its resources upgrading positions when it doesn't know what it needs. Champagnie is incredibly cheap, Reaves is incredibly expensive.

    Yeah I know you guys are just thrilled to lose again.

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    Yeah I know you guys are just thrilled to lose again.
    Man you guys are thirsty for Matt Reaves. I don't find him all that attractive.

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    It's a shooting league fellas

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    yeah cause they don't have enough draft picks to not use as it is
    The idea at some point is to deal them for established players

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