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    Do you believe Trump has gotten any preferential treatment in any aspect of the investigations into him?

    Yes or no.

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    Hunter Biden Got Special Treatment — Especially Harsh

    Renato Mariotti is Legal Affairs Columnist for POLITICO Magazine. He is a former federal prosecutor and co-host with Asha Rangappa of the “It’s Complicated” podcast.

    Tuesday’s announcement that Hunter Biden, the president’s son, agreed to plead guilty to federal tax and firearm crimes drew widespread criticism from Republicans, who slammed it as a “sweetheart deal.” Actually, Biden was treated harshly and — based on what we know publicly — received more severe treatment than a typical defendant.

    The announcement of the charges by United States Attorney for Delaware David Weiss, a Trump appointee, should have been cause for celebration for anyone who believes in the rule of law. After all, although our system is imperfect, the fact that the son of the sitting president was investigated, prosecuted and convicted by the Justice Department demonstrates that no one is above the law.

    Yet Republicans recoiled at the announcement, perhaps because Hunter Biden was accused in right-wing publications of everything from corruption to human trafficking, yet was only charged with two misdemeanor tax counts of failure to pay income tax and one count of possessing a firearm while a user of and addicted to a controlled substance.

    You don’t have to be a lawyer to figure out that these are hardly the crimes of the century. Many critics have pointed out that Biden will almost certainly not receive prison time as a result of these charges, which is true. But while we don’t know what else he might have done — and as Weiss noted, the “investigation is ongoing” — if this is the extent of Biden’s wrongdoing, he has been treated much more harshly than the typical defendant.

    Federal prosecutors charge a lot of firearm offenses every year. They charged 12,261 cases involving a firearm last year alone. The overwhelming majority of those cases involve the possession of a firearm by a felon, and those charges are used by prosecutors as a method to get felons with violent criminal histories or serious gang involvement off the street.

    Another often-charged statute criminalizes the possession, use or brandishing of a firearm during the commission of a federal “crime of violence.” I have charged many defendants with gun offenses in my former career as a federal prosecutor, but until this week I had never heard of a prosecution of anyone for possessing a firearm while addicted to a controlled substance before the Hunter Biden case.

    When I looked at crime statistics, I could see why. A Syracuse University study found that from 2013 to 2017, the DOJ brought a total of 35,758 prosecutions with a firearm charge as the lead charge in the indictment. Of those, 26,717 were felon-in-possession charges. Only 614 involved a charge for the unlawful shipment, transfer, receipt or possession of a firearm by a drug addict. That makes sense — federal prosecutors focus on large-scale narcotics traffickers, not drug users.

    Most of the other former federal prosecutors I’ve spoken with aren’t familiar with a defendant being charged with this statute either. One prosecutor who was familiar with the statute said he charged it once, many years ago, involving a particularly problematic defendant.

    As for the misdemeanor tax charges, I prosecuted tax cases and have defended many clients in criminal tax cases, and I’m not familiar with a misdemeanor tax charge ever being brought as the only tax charge in a case. The DOJ’s Tax Division has to approve every tax charge brought by prosecutors, and their practice is to focus on serious felony tax fraud or tax evasion cases. Those serious felony offenses would require evidence of fraud or affirmative efforts to evade taxes. Merely not paying your taxes isn’t enough.

    Sometimes, when I charged serious tax fraud cases, I would add easy-to-prove misdemeanor counts to the indictment as a “back stop” of sorts if I lost on the more serious counts. The most typical misdemeanor that was charged is a failure to file a tax return, and that is trivial to prove. Biden was charged with something even less serious — a failure to pay taxes even though he did file a return. And the amount of his unpaid taxes — approximately $100,000 in 2017 and again in 2018 — is typically dealt with as a civil matter, with penalties and interest, rather than as a federal criminal case.

    No competent federal prosecutor would initiate a multi-year criminal investigation into someone for merely failing to pay taxes, yet those misdemeanor charges are the only ones to which Biden will plead guilty. This looks like an investigation that has not turned up much.

    If Hunter Biden were not the president’s son, it’s not clear whether prosecutors would have investigated for as long or as hard as they did, or that they would have decided to spend additional federal resources prosecuting misdemeanors instead of moving on to the next case.

    It’s understandable why Weiss and his team did not want to appear to be pulling punches in a case involving the president’s son. Hunter has become a fixation of the GOP on the Hill, many of whom have publicly — and thus far without evidence — accused him of corruptly trading on his father’s connections to enrich himself and his family. For that wing of the Republican Party, anything short of a lengthy prison sentence will look like favoritism. But for anyone with actual federal criminal law experience, it is obvious that the DOJ’s aggressive prosecution of crimes that are rarely charged is anything but a “sweetheart deal.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...harsh-00103184


    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/27/u...ter-biden.html

    especially harsh treatment

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/27/u...ter-biden.html

    especially harsh treatment
    Weiss was AUSA for Delaware.
    Do you believe Trump has gotten any preferential treatment in any aspect of the investigations into him?

    Yes or no.
    I'll take your cowardly silence as a YES.

    Ignore shtick incoming.

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    Ignoring your whataboutism isn't a schtick.

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    Ignoring your whataboutism isn't a schtick.
    you can't admit your Trump has gotten preferential treatment his entire life.

    , he'd be in prison for money laundering 30 years ago if justice worked the way you claim to want.

    I don't give a if Hunter and Joe are found guilty of anything you can think of if the charges are true.

    Just say you want your Trump protected from justice and I'll accept your truth.

    If you don't admit it I'll keep hounding your scared ass.

    "I can't stand liars."

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    You semen shield or deflect with whataboutism every time Hunter and Joe are brought up. Not a single person believes you don't give a if Hunter or Joe are found guilty

    Is your Trump whataboutism a tacit admission that Hunter is getting preferential treatment?

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    You semen shield or deflect with whataboutism every time Hunter and Joe are brought up. Not a single person believes you don't give a if Hunter or Joe are found guilty

    Is your Trump whataboutism a tacit admission that Hunter is getting preferential treatment?
    ing idiot

    NO ONE gives a if hunter biden or joe biden or any ing democrat get prosecuted for

    CRIMES THEY ACTUALLY COMMITTED

    UNLIKE your cult loyalty to criminals who do actually commit CRIMES, TREASON and Lie 24/7

    you wont see their lies, their crimes, their propaganda even though THEY COMMIT THESE CRIMES IN PUBLIC

    most any democrat will say - IF the bidens , obamas, whomever are properly charged

    EM- LOCK EM UP

    CAN YOU SAY THAT ABOUT TRUMP?

    you are terrified of even being honest about your GOD

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    ing idiot

    NO ONE gives a if hunter biden or joe biden or any ing democrat get prosecuted for

    CRIMES THEY ACTUALLY COMMITTED

    UNLIKE your cult loyalty to criminals who do actually commit CRIMES, TREASON and Lie 24/7

    you wont see their lies, their crimes, their propaganda even though THEY COMMIT THESE CRIMES IN PUBLIC

    most any democrat will say - IF the bidens , obamas, whomever are properly charged

    EM- LOCK EM UP

    CAN YOU SAY THAT ABOUT TRUMP?

    you are terrified of even being honest about your GOD
    No one believes that you don't give a if Hunter or Joe are found guilty either

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    You semen shield or deflect with whataboutism every time Hunter and Joe are brought up. Not a single person believes you don't give a if Hunter or Joe are found guilty

    Is your Trump whataboutism a tacit admission that Hunter is getting preferential treatment?
    No. See how easy it is to answer honestly when you aren't afraid?

    And Hunter has already been found guilty.

    Go ahead and impeach Joe if you got the goods.

    Admit you want more preferential treatment for your Trump.

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    No. See how easy it is to answer honestly when you aren't afraid?

    And Hunter has already been found guilty.

    Go ahead and impeach Joe if you got the goods.

    Admit you want more preferential treatment for your Trump.
    After everything the two IRS whistleblowers revealed you don’t believe Hunter received preferential treatment? You are honestly saying that?

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    definitely not preferential treatment

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    After everything the two IRS whistleblowers revealed you don’t believe Hunter received preferential treatment? You are honestly saying that?
    I don't know the evidence these people thought they had or were just hoping to fish for. Or if they're just making up.

    I'm honestly saying that.

    What crimes are you accusing Hunter and Joe of committing?

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    I will say that an extra 2.5 years for Trump's lawyer to prosecute Hunter is quite enough when Trump did all in four full years about all the prosecutions you called for.

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    It's an opinion, tbh... just an educated, different take on this
    Not sure what's funny, tbh...

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/27/u...ter-biden.html

    especially harsh treatment
    That doesn't contradict anything I posted, tbh...

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    definitely not preferential treatment
    This is how plea deals work. Some charges are sustained, some charges are dropped. The DOJ isn't going to pull a Durham and go with a case they can't win to court...

    Like I said, this shows smart men know how to negotiate a guilty plea when they know they're guilty. Dumbasses fight it and end up in jail.

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    After everything the two IRS whistleblowers revealed you don’t believe Hunter received preferential treatment? You are honestly saying that?
    You are so easily duped you kunt

    these guys are not genuine whistleblowers - they are paid political actors -

    if they really were authentic whistleblowers, they would have gone to their agency, filed legit paperwork and presented their evidence and gone through the official process

    but they are not

    they are political hacks who are probably trumpers and have ZERO legitimacy - but dont take my word for it -
    just wait until their claims go by the wayside just like

    the tapes grassley promised
    the bank transfers of some shady accounts
    the laptop
    the biden "big guy" allegation
    the uranium scandal
    the so called russia hoax
    the whatever they gaslight you with next


    only a true ing re would get their hopes up on ALL OF THOSE things above

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    The whistleblower can testify under oath in front of the judge that needs to approve the plea deal.

    You know, if he actually has evidence of what he's saying.

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    Now they aren't really whistleblowers and fabricated the whole thing You guys are all a joke.

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    Now they aren't really whistleblowers and fabricated the whole thing You guys are all a joke.
    They might be actual whistleblowers and it could still be a legit plea deal.

    You're too used to your side's never cooperating with enforcement agencies at all and demonizing (literally) those investigating your god-king. This is how things normally happen when the target of an investigation cooperates. That's how you get the deal. You could even say there is an art of it.

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    Anytime there are allegations that so-called whistleblowers are not willing to repeat under oath, it’s just political fodder.

    I remember all the Obama so-called scandals that came to naught.

    The grifters can blame their coming to naught on “corruption” rather than absence of evidence and the frustration serves to motivate the base to donate more money. And so the grift continues.

    The yearning “finally” to bring the other side to account after years/decades of these groundless accusations spawns movements like QAnon.

    And now with Trump being under two indictments with two more to come, the frustration will increase exponentially. We’ll see what new movements spawn for the -eating, cousin- ing crackers to serve as coping mechanisms. Short-term, they’ll just put all their hopes on electing Trump in 2024. But once that fails and he goes to prison? We’ll see.

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    Now they aren't really whistleblowers and fabricated the whole thing You guys are all a joke.
    Do you think Trump would allow one of Biden's USAs to investigate one of his failsons two and a half years into Trump's next administration?

    Yes or no.
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 06-29-2023 at 10:48 AM.

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    You are so easily duped you kunt

    these guys are not genuine whistleblowers - they are paid political actors -

    if they really were authentic whistleblowers, they would have gone to their agency, filed legit paperwork and presented their evidence and gone through the official process

    but they are not

    they are political hacks who are probably trumpers and have ZERO legitimacy - but dont take my word for it -
    just wait until their claims go by the wayside just like

    the tapes grassley promised
    the bank transfers of some shady accounts
    the laptop
    the biden "big guy" allegation
    the uranium scandal
    the so called russia hoax
    the whatever they gaslight you with next


    only a true ing re would get their hopes up on ALL OF THOSE things above



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    Harry Litman is an actual attorney for whistleblowers you gullible dip …

    let me tell you exactly what happened- this is no different than the hacks Gym Jordan had appear under oath in a hearing- and then REFUSED to give the Dems EQUAL access to the deposition- oh wait- they never even had a sworn depos ion

    they allowed the hacks to be sworn in and then Dems had zero paperwork/testimony to see what allegations were actually substantiated

    when they asked jordan for this- jordan tap danced and said they had ZERO sworn depositions and cut off the dems…

    then the hacks were allowed to give a 5 minute propaganda speech making all kinds of allegations- and then jordan dismissed them all as dems protested that they needed to cross-examine them

    this is the same tactic fox news uses- they have some hack appear and make allegations with zero substantiations and then Promote those lies

    these whistleblower hacks merely contacted these corrupt gop liars and ageeed to play in their charade

    guarantee that zero of these whistleblowers went thru the proper process

    but you are a dupe
    Last edited by Spurs Homer; 06-29-2023 at 10:44 AM.

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