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    Going after Jak if Toronto isn't interested is one thing. Actively competing with them for Jak is another, and would be a bad move. Toronto has been a good trade partner for us as of late. Jak isn't worth destroying that relationship for.

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    There was also a growing belief that they would trade up, and did the opposite, tbh.
    That's just flawed reasoning, they could have easily tried unsuccessfully. In fact it was known many teams were trying to move up, especially in picks 17-19 and couldn't get anything done.

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    Going after Jak if Toronto isn't interested is one thing. Actively competing with them for Jak is another, and would be a bad move. Toronto has been a good trade partner for us as of late. Jak isn't worth destroying that relationship for.
    Yeah, I agree with this especially just a few months removed from the trade. If it was next year then it'd be fair game, this might damage relations with Toronto and possibly other front offices, and that would likely outweigh whatever gains you get from Poeltl.

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    That's just flawed reasoning, they could have easily tried unsuccessfully. In fact it was known many teams were trying to move up, especially in picks 17-19 and couldn't get anything done.
    It's no reasoning, it's an observation. Just like it is also an observation that the Spurs were suppossedly interested in Chris Paul, and how is also an observation that the Spurs are suppossedly taking a patient approach to see how guys develop around Wemby.

    I think it would be a mistake to go for a big time signing in the center position, mainly because Wemby will irremediably end up being the starting center sooner or later, but also because you don't know what kind of frontcourt partner would fit better on his side. On paper, a guy like Jakob makes little to no sense.

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    I think the whole idea that SA would be looked upon negatively for going after Jak is overstated. He is a FA, the Spurs have 30M in capspace, and he did not extend with the Raptors (not that anyone expected him to). he's completely fair game imo. Not like it's never happened before

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    Except he doesn’t make any sense this year at all and maybe even going forward. Victor isn’t a 3 point shooter, Sochan isn’t a 3 point shooter, Tre isn’t a 3 point shooter, and Jak isn’t a 3 point shooter. That would make for the worst spacing group in the entire nba

    This is the one thing that makes me wonder about Mo Bamba-- he's a decent three point shooter, and would draw a defending big out of the middle to give Wemby & co. more paint space. Bamba's been a relative disappointment to this point, but I think he's plausibly a net neutral guy, and the NBA has never seen a C with a 7'10" wingspan lurking behind a PF with an 8' wingspan before.

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    Mo Bamba sucks. Dude is still living off draft hype after all these years there's a reason a bad team like ORL dumped him for nothing basically. For being so large he has 0 bbiq, 0 passion for the game, and he is a complete traffic cone on defense. his potential is all theoretical

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    Mo Bamba sucks. Dude is still living off draft hype after all these years there's a reason a bad team like ORL dumped him for nothing basically. For being so large he has 0 bbiq, 0 passion for the game, and he is a complete traffic cone on defense. his potential is all theoretical
    He was bad on the Lakers that they played the corpse of Tristan Thompson over him.

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    We should only be going after players that can help space the floor regardless of what position we are trying to fill. The bulk of the team is set and that is a huge need. I actually really like Zollins as the starting center. He was the best player on the team after the trade. I realize there are injury concerns, but it's not like this is the big "make a push for the playoffs" year. If you want to go after someone as a back up fine, but don't be spending money on another starting center.

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    It's no reasoning, it's an observation. Just like it is also an observation that the Spurs were suppossedly interested in Chris Paul, and how is also an observation that the Spurs are suppossedly taking a patient approach to see how guys develop around Wemby.

    I think it would be a mistake to go for a big time signing in the center position, mainly because Wemby will irremediably end up being the starting center sooner or later, but also because you don't know what kind of frontcourt partner would fit better on his side. On paper, a guy like Jakob makes little to no sense.
    You're making an observation (that a widespread belief didn't come to fruition) to implicitly suggest something else (that another belief may also be false). I'm just saying I wouldn't put too much stock on past events either way. Also I don't agree with your conclusion that Wemby will inevitably end up the starting center, while I don't rule him out at center at some point, I think it's a pretty safe bet that it won't happen during the next 3 years, which would be the likely duration of said contract. Personally I wouldn't go for Poeltl either, I'd offer Plumlee something like 20/2 to keep Wemby from getting banged up now that he's paper thin and go from there. You've got the best of both worlds, help him start his career with the right foot, while keeping financial flexibility going forward.

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    I think the whole idea that SA would be looked upon negatively for going after Jak is overstated. He is a FA, the Spurs have 30M in capspace, and he did not extend with the Raptors (not that anyone expected him to). he's completely fair game imo. Not like it's never happened before
    We have a winner...this is absolutely true.

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    You're making an observation (that a widespread belief didn't come to fruition) to implicitly suggest something else (that another belief may also be false). I'm just saying I wouldn't put too much stock on past events either way. Also I don't agree with your conclusion that Wemby will inevitably end up the starting center, while I don't rule him out at center at some point, I think it's a pretty safe bet that it won't happen during the next 3 years, which would be the likely duration of said contract. Personally I wouldn't go for Poeltl either, I'd offer Plumlee something like 20/2 to keep Wemby from getting banged up now that he's paper thin and go from there. You've got the best of both worlds, help him start his career with the right foot, while keeping financial flexibility going forward.
    That's even a worse fit than Poeltl, because he's Poeltl lite, only way worse.

    Wemby will be playing lots of minutes already alongside guys like Sochan and Tre. Pairing him with yet another non-shooter and providing him with sub-optimal spacing wouldn't exactly be giving him the best scenario to succeed, tbh.

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    I agree with the premise that Wemby needs to be surrounded by shooters for the most part but you still need a bigger center down low who can bang when Wemby is off the court and against certain matchups. A player like Plumlee coming off the bench for 20mpg is not a bad idea and is actually a necessity.

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    I agree with the premise that Wemby needs to be surrounded by shooters for the most part but you still need a bigger center down low who can bang when Wemby is off the court and against certain matchups. A player like Plumlee coming off the bench for 20mpg is not a bad idea and is actually a necessity.
    yep. i just hope its not Zubac lol

    the nice thing about the BroLo prospect is you hit 2 birds. surround wemby with another shooter, but also a bigger center down low that can bang with other bigs

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    That's even a worse fit than Poeltl, because he's Poeltl lite, only way worse.

    Wemby will be playing lots of minutes already alongside guys like Sochan and Tre. Pairing him with yet another non-shooter and providing him with sub-optimal spacing wouldn't exactly be giving him the best scenario to succeed, tbh.
    Well obviously, it's 2 years 20M rather than 4 years 80M. Furthermore, in those 2 years the Spurs won't need the cap space, and when they do need it (2 years down the road, when hopefully we're good) he comes off the books. It's a stop gap that can give you 20 mpg, not a long term starter. Pop can be smart and avoid putting all 3 of those guys (Tre, Sochan and Plumlee) together with Wemby for long stretches. You're thinking '25, not '23.

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    yep. i just hope its not Zubac lol

    the nice thing about the BroLo prospect is you hit 2 birds. surround wemby with another shooter, but also a bigger center down low that can bang with other bigs
    Agreed. I hope the Spurs are in touch with Lopez. Even if you have to overpay on a shorter term deal.

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    Well obviously, it's 2 years 20M rather than 4 years 80M. Furthermore, in those 2 years the Spurs won't need the cap space, and when they do need it (2 years down the road, when hopefully we're good) he comes off the books. It's a stop gap that can give you 20 mpg, not a long term starter. Pop can be smart and avoid putting all 3 of those guys (Tre, Sochan and Plumlee) together with Wemby for long stretches. You're thinking '25, not '23.
    Sure, but why not find a stop gap that actually fits?

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    Lopez is not coming here

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    Lopez is not coming here
    We’re gonna end up with Robin Lopez aren’t we lol

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    One of Jake Fischer's rumors is that Houston has/will offered Lopez 2/40 and are waiting on an answer

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    The Spurs should be targeting a starting PG over a starting C, tbh. Some of these Spurs' rumours have me scratching my head, I hope it's all smoke because I don't like the names/moves being throwing around: resigning Tre to 4/40, Plumlee being the #1 free agent target. These are the complete opposite of moves that fit the process.

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    The Spurs should be targeting a starting PG over a starting C, tbh. Some of these Spurs' rumours have me scratching my head, I hope it's all smoke because I don't like the names/moves being throwing around: resigning Tre to 4/40, Plumlee being the #1 free agent target. These are the complete opposite of moves that fit the process.

    youd think theyd learned from patty/pau

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    Sure, but why not find a stop gap that actually fits?
    By all means, go through the list of available players and find a proven center who can defend, rebound, stretch the floor, commands little money, and doesn't care for long term job security. I'll be all for it!!!

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    I wonder if we have something that could be put together to entice Vancouver into giving up Steven Adams.

    What do yall think we would have to give up?

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    I wonder if we have something that could be put together to entice Vancouver into giving up Steven Adams.

    What do yall think we would have to give up?
    What year is this?

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