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    That's not my point, you can think that's too much... but you can't say 19M per year is fine but 20M isn't, that's chump change in NBA terms.
    Lmao did you read what I wrote? I quite literally agreed with your point that you can’t say 19 is good but 20M isn’t…

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    Lmao did you read what I wrote? I quite literally agreed with your point that you can’t say 19 is good but 20M isn’t…
    I took "But there’s value and there’s not even if small" to mean something else, but we're in agreement then.

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    Seriously depressing group and write up lmao

    Jak Im down with but only at something like 4/75M or less. He can tell teams 4/80 all he wants but there’s not many teams that can or will pay him that. Spurs can get a good player and spend big if it’s a good value.

    Jak at less than 20M on a declining deal would fit that bill and he could be traded later if need be too. That’s what SA needs to think about. Can use cap space for a bad deal and pick or do what GS did with Russell and sign a good player to be used in trade later too.
    It can be 20m but declining.
    Say 24 22 18 16

    We need to meet floor this year anyway. Does the 5m diff really matter if we really like him?

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    It can be 20m but declining.
    Say 24 22 18 16

    We need to meet floor this year anyway. Does the 5m diff really matter if we really like him?
    Nope. But there is value territory vs fair territory and the market - so ya, it’s not a big deal for 5M but anything less iMO is entering less risk/value territory and who will pay Jak 20M?

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    Future Spur Giannis Antetokounmpo* tbh. He and Wemby will create the Twin Towers 2.0.


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    Again, Im not saying 4/80 is horrendous vs 4/75M…the point was SA doesn’t have to do anything and can simply only do them if they feel its both a solid value + serves a purpose on court too.

    They aren’t in a rush, don’t need to force anything or FOMO on players. Look for value/fit all together and if they don’t get it, fine, move on…that’s the overarching point I was making

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    Seriously depressing group and write up lmao

    Jak Im down with but only at something like 4/75M or less. He can tell teams 4/80 all he wants but there’s not many teams that can or will pay him that. Spurs can get a good player and spend big if it’s a good value.

    Jak at less than 20M on a declining deal would fit that bill and he could be traded later if need be too. That’s what SA needs to think about. Can use cap space for a bad deal and pick or do what GS did with Russell and sign a good player to be used in trade later too.
    Vuc getting 3/60 kinda sets that market. 4/80 might be steep

    still think BroLo on a big 2 year deal is optimal. im not sure id want Yak back on a huge deal vs getting a more reasonable Plumlee. Wemby will eventually be playing primarily at C anyway, which is why a shorter deal like what BroLo or Plumlee could be had for would make more sense

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    Vuc getting 3/60 kinda sets that market. 4/80 might be steep

    still think BroLo on a big 2 year deal is optimal. im not sure id want Yak back on a huge deal vs getting a more reasonable Plumlee. Wemby will eventually be playing primarily at C anyway, which is why a shorter deal like what BroLo or Plumlee could be had for would make more sense
    Maybe some for sure…but CHI seemed to be competing against themselves there and not sure Jak gets 20M from any team with cap space…but ya, Reid/Vuc will have some impacts for sure.

    Just keep signing Jak and trading him to other teams for picks lol

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    the FA market is pretty dry as to PG. keep Tre (but not for the 4/40+ stuff we've been hearing), and bring in a combo guard who can handle some PG duties. i would def throw an offer at Reaves and force the Lakers to match, then fall back with J-Rich who has shown he can handle those duties here

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    Fischer reporting Jakob got an offer bigger than Vuc from TOR. It is down to Reaves or Brook. Zubac is available for trade, LAC apparently prefers Plumlee.

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    If true then Spurs should be out completely on Jak

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    Nope. But there is value territory vs fair territory and the market - so ya, it’s not a big deal for 5M but anything less iMO is entering less risk/value territory and who will pay Jak 20M?
    We are gonna pay random guy the remaining salary just to reach floor anyway. It's not going to be of the right value.
    So it really doesn't matter. Unless you see someone else you like more that we could have spent on. There's really no difference

    For example. Let's say we pay poeltl 18m instead of 20m. And pay the 2m diff to some random just to meet the floor. It doesn't really make spurs better or worse. But if the 2m diff makes poeltl picks us instead of raptors. Then there's an obvious differemce. Unl SS again you are thinking of someone else that we should have signed instead of him

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    Poeltl was always going to resign so long as he knew they wanted to be compe ive.

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    https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1674836709232476166?s=20

    Clippers wanting to retrain Plumlee and dump Ivan

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    Zubac had some toughts on Wemby:

    Speaking of young talents, next season, we will see Victor Wembanyama, the French sensation in the NBA, and the hype surrounding the Metropolitans' player has never been higher.

    Even Zubac has a certain level of expectation for Wembanyama and cannot wait to see him playing in the league.

    "Oh yeah, I mean, you see all these videos and highlights, it's incredible. A guy with that kind of size and mobility, it's really rare to witness something like that," Zubac told BasketNews.

    "We probably never saw a player like him so far. He's probably gonna be the No. 1 pick and will be coached by one of the best coaches ever, Gregg Popovich. He's gonna play a lot of minutes for a great organization like the Spurs. I definitely have high expectations for him, but I believe he's gonna be in a perfect position to develop and show that he can be one of the best players," Zubac added.

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    Zubac is making about 11 per year, with 2 years left. I'd take him if the Clippers want to dump him. Serves the purpose.

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    Playoff tested youngish guys like Reaves and Zubac is a good start to Wemby era.

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    I’d gladly take Zubac, it would also help facilitate the extra drama I want to see in LA.

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    I'd change my mind about longer contracts to get Zubac. Very underrated.

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    not crazy about zubac. like, he's solid. but not much of a passer, doesnt have good hands. hes like a worse steven adams who can fit a FT

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    Plumlee, number one? In which universe is surrounding Wemby with as many non-shooters as possible a sound strategy?

    I really hope this info isn't coming from inside the Spurs' organization because it would mean they are heading into this process with their plans all ed up.
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    I like Zubac on this team better than Plumlee... I like Jak better than both but if we're getting over $20M annually, I'd rather get Zubac.

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    at their expected costs, id say Plumlee > Jak > Zubac tbh

    zubac is a big oaf. which has its usefulness, but dont care for his feel, touch, passing, etc

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    Trade from Chet Holmgren!!

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    Trade from Chet Holmgren!!
    nah we have to see Wemby vs Holmgren matchups

    like two giraffes swinging their necks at each other

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