Summer trades

[Mr. Body]

Lowry ($30M salary) would put Spurs way above the salary floor (if they re-sign Tre). It will cost Spurs something like $20M more than taking, for example, an injured Oladipo ($10M salary). It will also take away some trade flexibily for the 2023-2024 season.

I'm not sure 1 year of Lowry, who might not be interested in playing for a rebuilding team, is worth $20M and some trade flexibility.

Yeah, I can see that.

Conversely, the Spurs might be able to get a first out of it. The trade would need Lowry to stay and man the PG spot. And the contract is still a thirty million expiring, which will still be valuable throughout the year as teams assess their player and financial needs.

[Ariel]

I made a few hypotheticals here: https://www.spotrac.com/nba/manage/16881582737782/
* sign Wemby (starting 12.2M)
* sign Sidy (starting 2M)
* re-sign Tre (starting 10M)
* re-sign KBD (starting 4M)
* re-sign Champagnie (starting 2M)
* re-sign Barlow (starting 2M)
* renounce Langford
* renounce Mamu
* renounce Dieng
By my estimation that puts us at 14 players + 2 2-way contracts (Barlow and Champagnie) for 120M with the salary floor at 122.4... you don't need to add 30M, we're almost there with all those moves. Just redistribute that figure, say overpay Tre's first year and have the contract frontloaded ant that's it.

PS: The site wouldn't let me add Champagnie, Barlow and Cissoko, so I'm throwing an extra 6M at its listing.

[slick'81]

I made a few hypotheticals here: https://www.spotrac.com/nba/manage/16881582737782/
* sign Wemby (starting 12.2M)
* sign Sidy (starting 2M)
* re-sign Tre (starting 10M)
* re-sign KBD (starting 4M)
* re-sign Champagnie (starting 2M)
* re-sign Barlow (starting 2M)
* renounce Langford
* renounce Mamu
* renounce Dieng
By my estimation that puts us at 14 players + 2 2-way contracts (Barlow and Champagnie) for 120M with the salary floor at 122.4... you don't need to add 30M, we're almost there with all those moves. Just redistribute that figure, say overpay Tre's first year and have the contract frontloaded ant that's it.

can we switch barlow for mamu?

[Ariel]

can we switch barlow for mamu?

You can sign Mamu and Sir'Jabari Rice (2-way) if you want and you're over the floor and have a complete roster

[JPB]

I also can see spurs overpaying a vet role player. Makes more sense than just giving a bigger bag to all their fringe, end of bench guys.

[Ariel]

Can't we renegotiate Zach Collin's deal? That's another way, extend and frontload his contract

[Ariel]

I also can see spurs overpaying a vet role player. Makes more sense than giving a bigger bag to all their fringe, end of bench guys.

I agree, but the point is meeting the salary floor as some huge problem is being overblown.
Personally I'd add a center and backup PG (Plumlee + trade Graham + 1 pick for Monte Morris)

[slick'81]

Can't we renegotiate Zach Collin's deal? That's another way, extend and frontload his contract

i was wondering that too. Extend and bump his pay a bit

[objective]

Can't we renegotiate Zach Collin's deal? That's another way, extend and frontload his contract

I was trying to figure it out from cbafaq

Answer is yes. Max he in particular could sign for is 120% of the average salary, so maybe 14-16 million?

15% can be paid as signing bonus, then would apply evenly over the total years including next year

I think

[Chinook]

Can't we renegotiate Zach Collin's deal? That's another way, extend and frontload his contract

They can't. You need to be signed to at least a four-year deal. But

I was trying to figure it out from cbafaq

Answer is yes. Max he in particular could sign for is 120% of the average salary, so maybe 14-16 million?

15% can be paid as signing bonus, then would apply evenly over the total years including next year

I think

So as I mentioned, the answer is no. But with the brand-new CBA, teams can actually give up to a 40-percent raise. In Collins' case, his actual starting salary would still be bumped up to the MLE, meaning his max extension is about $56M/4.

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
9s
Wizards are trading guard Monte Morris to the Pistons, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

[Chinook]

Pistons make another move the Spurs were believed to make.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
9s
Wizards are trading guard Monte Morris to the Pistons, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

Miss from the Spurs, in my view. Retaining Tre Jones was a good move but he has limitations and Morris would have been a great fit. Now the Pistons should have their chock full of PGs in Morris, Cunningham and Kilian Hayes. Hayes is worse than Jones as of now. Spurs missing out on Morris is a bad one, I think.

Plus Pistons got him for just a future SRP.!

[Mr. Body]

No one thought the Spurs were going after Monte Morris.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
now
Compensation update: The Wizards are trading Monte Morris to the Pistons for a second-round pick, sources tell ESPN. Wizards will create a $9.8M Traded Player Exception.

[Ariel]

No one thought the Spurs were going after Monte Morris.

I did (hoped). Realistically the Spurs have options, best case scenario being we get that starting caliber PG and Tre is the backup. But I liked Monte Morris better than Graham, and at the cost of ONE second round pick (of which the Spurs have 18 until '30 if I'm not mistaken) it was a good move IMO. Monte Morris is pretty underrated all around, he's a true PG who can be your floor general and also is a highly efficient shooting from 3 for those concerned with spacing. I'm not saying he's the long term solution, but he'd have been an adequate and cheap stop gap while we find "the one".

[mo7888]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
now
Compensation update: The Wizards are trading Monte Morris to the Pistons for a second-round pick, sources tell ESPN. Wizards will create a $9.8M Traded Player Exception.

Send the Wizards Birch + a 2nd ...

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
now
Miami is trading Victor Oladipo to Oklahoma City, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

[Mr. Body]

Cap clearing by Miami, wonder what they gave up.

[CGD]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
now
Miami is trading Victor Oladipo to Oklahoma City, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

You have to think the Spurs are in the mix for these salary dump moves (this and the Harris one). What are the preserving the space for?

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
49s
Oklahoma City is acquiring Victor Oladipo and draft compensation to absorb his $9.45 million expiring contract, sources tell ESPN. Miami creates a trade exception of $9.45M with the deal.

[Ariel]

They can't. You need to be signed to at least a four-year deal. But

So as I mentioned, the answer is no. But with the brand-new CBA, teams can actually give up to a 40-percent raise. In Collins' case, his actual starting salary would still be bumped up to the MLE, meaning his max extension is about $56M/4.

Got it, thanks.

[BatManu20]

5-years/$260M for Haliburton wow

[Chinook]

That's probably not great for the Spurs' chances of extending Vassell to a cheap deal. Not that he has anyone on Hali, but they probably aren't getting him to sign for half or less of that right now. It's still possible they don't extend Vassell at all if they are looking at 2024 space or what to see if Branham is going to make Devin expendable. But if they still think he's going to get an extension, doing it early so they are free to do later deals during the summer would be a smart move. They arguably lost Murray last year because they drug their feet on an extension in 2019.

[jesterbobman]

I'd keep Vassell on a contract, but I think negotiation gets awkward with his lack of availability last year, and while he might become a player worthy of a max extension, I don't think you can have confidence in that now. The early lock up contract at something like 5 years 140m would be fine from my POV, though I'm a big Vassell believer. In a year, the start of that contract is probably equivalent to about a 4th starter - perfectly fine use of money.