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    We want all the 2nds

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    lol what impactful moves?

    they have already stated they’re running back the same team.

    What’s hard to understand about this?
    I understand the plan. I don’t like it

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    What a disingenuous way to frame people’s thoughts here

    There is a massive middle ground between “let’s try to win the le this year” and “ it let’s just make no moves at all and spend money on guys we won’t even use for the sake of hitting the cap floor”.

    I don’t think anyone paying attention would expect to see the Spurs completely shake up their roster. No . But when the FO said “we want to see what we have” I think most people didn’t take that as “we will literally roll into next year with the exact squad”. Is bringing in one meaningful rotational vet like Lopez going to prevent them from evaluating the roster?

    It’s still early in FA so we’ll see how it plays out but it’ll be pretty frustrating if they really do just burn money on no one meaningful just to end up reaching the floor.
    I do believe the Spurs will just burn enough money to reach the financial floor on no one who will make much of a difference(although whoever they bring in, some here will still say it's such a great roster upgrade move)in more of a financial move than a roster upgrade move.

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    We are making that offer to Reaves.

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    The Cavs just guaranteed the contract of Osman a couple of days ago, only to unload him while sending out a draft pick to do so. This board would be going bananas had the Spurs front office done that, regardless of how many 2nd round picks we have in our pockets.
    Yesterday I pointed out how we got a second round pick and a first round pick for DeRozan, who was a free agent and leaving anyway, while Toronto has lost a glob of players for nothing including FVV.

    Too many people around here are just straight up idiots.

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    We want all the 2nds
    *all* of them evidently.

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    We are making that offer to Reaves.
    Well hot damn. Source?

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    Lamar Stevens is well liked by Cavs fans. A junkyard dog, intense compe or type, good defender but not on the other end.
    So he’s this years langford

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    I understand the plan. I don’t like it
    yeah they should've blown the money on Fred Van Vleet no question

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    yeah they should've blown the money on Fred Van Vleet no question
    Our only options this year were vanvleet or the cedi trade

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    Don't love the trade but it's just about the safest salary dump I've ever seen. Osman is already a decent deal at $6.7 million. Maybe overpaid by a couple million but he has a real chance of cracking the rotation. Stevens' contract is mostly unguaranteed. I've seen him play good defense so it's not impossible for him to make the team. Getting a second rounder to take those two players on is easily worth it.

    Now, yeah, the fact that this trade signals that the Spurs won't do anything this summer kind of sucks, tbh. Was there literally no one the Spurs were interested in at $7 million?

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    Our only options this year were vanvleet or the cedi trade

    Well sit there and pout maybe that will make everything better

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    Well sit there and pout maybe that will make everything better
    The purpose of a message board like this is to share opinions.

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    Don't love the trade but it's just about the safest salary dump I've ever seen. Osman is already a decent deal at $6.7 million. Maybe overpaid by a couple million but he has a real chance of cracking the rotation. Stevens' contract is mostly unguaranteed. I've seen him play good defense so it's not impossible for him to make the team. Getting a second rounder to take those two players on is easily worth it.

    Now, yeah, the fact that this trade signals that the Spurs won't do anything this summer kind of sucks, tbh. Was there literally no one the Spurs were interested in at $7 million?

    according to Marks they still have 25 million

    so this trade hasnt killed anything more

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    The purpose of a message board like this is to share opinions.

    The you say

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    Would like to see an offer for any of Thybulle, DiVencenzo, Plumlee if not for any of the other FAs I've already discussed. I'd even take a flyer on Russ coming off the bench. I bet Pop could constrain some if his bad habits and make him a very serviceable 6th man.

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    Think we already had something like 13 incoming second rounders through 2029. Diminishing returns at this point

    not a fan of this imo if it prevents us from making more impactful moves
    Second rounder worth is going up with the new CBA. Compe ive Teams need to be able to draft affordable young players in the second. They're a useful tool with all these teams going all in. Spurs were ahead of the game as usual. They're gettinf free assets. That cap space wasn't going anywhere and they pick up another vet to help mentor.


    Spurs are sitting back and letting the other teams work for them.

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    I'm not crazy about the Osment- Stevens trade, but I figure its better than having always injured Langford and 100 year old Gorgi Dieng on the team plus we got a 2nd rounder out of it. Its an upgrade in talent, it gets us closer to the salary floor and we got a second rounder. I look at it as an upgrade even if its just a small one.

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    All your 2nds are belong to us

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    This is what we wanted right? Rent space and gain all the two's

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    Second rounder worth is going up with the new CBA. Compe ive Teams need to be able to draft affordable young players in the second. They're a useful tool with all these teams going all in. Spurs were ahead of the game as usual. They're gettinf free assets. That cap space wasn't going anywhere and they pick up another vet to help mentor.


    Spurs are sitting back and letting the other teams work for them.
    I've seen a couple ppl make this argument and it may or may not bear out when the 2nd apron comes into effect. My guess is more of those roster spots are filled by UDFA than 2nd rounders given there are only so many 2nd round picks.

    So if it doesn't pan out, the Spurs basically have a stockpile of filler for trading up at best and a burden to get rid of multiple picks to avoid overwhelming our Austin and SA rosters at worst.

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    Spurs still have juuust enough to offer Reaves his max. If that was factored into this trade, I like it a lot more.

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    Don't love the trade but it's just about the safest salary dump I've ever seen. Osman is already a decent deal at $6.7 million. Maybe overpaid by a couple million but he has a real chance of cracking the rotation. Stevens' contract is mostly unguaranteed. I've seen him play good defense so it's not impossible for him to make the team. Getting a second rounder to take those two players on is easily worth it.

    Now, yeah, the fact that this trade signals that the Spurs won't do anything this summer kind of sucks, tbh. Was there literally no one the Spurs were interested in at $7 million?
    Yup. I’d rather over pay some for Grant williams who we know is a good player and is valued around the league or something like that. Don’t like wasting roster spots for another 2nd. Not terrible just unimaginative & kind of surprising that they don’t think anyone is more interesting than Cedi

    If they waive them and show they care more about winning than money? Love it more.

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    Spurs still have juuust enough to offer Reaves his max. If that was factored into this trade, I like it a lot more.
    Absolutely - would mean it wasn’t about salary floor and just purely asset management which is great. If you are going to use cap space still means you didn’t need to do this to reach floor.

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    All your 2nds are belong to us
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