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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    It’s an appropriate contract. Thank god we didn’t get stupid. Now are you down for a wager since we know where he’s at?
    yes but if we're doing that top 10 then that means its a push if the Lakers end up with a top 10 pick (or worst 10 record rather).

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    Clint Capela. Even your dumbass should be able to figure that out
    Wrong. It was a salary dump lol

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    people forgetting the Lakers are heavily dependent on Street Clothes and 39 year old Lebron. They have as much of a chance of missing the playoffs as making them.
    There's quite a history of teams making an unexpected run to the conference finals and then falling off immediately after. 2019 Blazers, 2021 Hawks, 2022 Mavs to name a few recent ones. It's very easy to fall into the trap of assuming that the WCF is now the median outcome for the Lakers since they made it there this past season. imo they are far more likely to miss the playoffs or lose in the first round than make the Finals or even the WCF again.

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    Any shot Cham contract is front loaded? Would also help and make tons of sense for Spurs risk wise moving forward.
    He would be great to have at 80mil/4 years, you think next summer you would find something better at free agency?

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    Any Euroleague FA that would fit need for Spurs?

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    6mEuroLeague Final Four MVP Edy Tavares has received a multi-year contract offer from the Portland Trail Blazers, per sources.



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    Any shot Cham contract is front loaded? Would also help and make tons of sense for Spurs risk wise moving forward.
    I'm trying to figure out what the max Champagnie's contract could be next season. IIRC, there's a stipulation that an option year at the end of a contract can't be for less money than the previous year. But I think the Spurs may be able to get around that by making the last season unguaranteed rather than an option. I believe it also depends how exactly the Spurs sign him that determines whether the Spurs can decline his contract by 8% or 5%.

    Assuming 8% declines and no rule against the last year of the contract being the lowest, it looks like Champagnie's contract could start at $3,410,000. Does that look right Chinook, Bruno, etc?

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    Look, again, there’s a difference in throwing baby out with bath water (saying SA sucks or is in an awful spot) and discussing some very real missed opportunities and nuance. Spurs have not had a good free agency period. Now, does that mean they were awful? No. They did fine with Tre and Cham but that was literally the bare minimum lol.

    There was so much more opportunity to get creative and maybe they still do. But I dont like the Cedi trade as it represents just money and no basketball help at all and that’s not what I want to see with a team that has SO MUCH cap space and picks etc….there’s more that could have and should have (and maybe will) been done here.

    Nuance. Context.

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    people forgetting the Lakers are heavily dependent on Street Clothes and 39 year old Lebron. They have as much of a chance of missing the playoffs as making them.
    Sure - but even given that they have done a phenomenal job. Can’t help if AD or Lebron miss time or can’t hack it. But they are giving them a legit chance

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    I just don’t want to be in a spot where we don’t take the opportunity to add players when we have the means to do so. Once we have to start handing our guys big extensions (Vassell looming), that flexibility fades

    who knows what Zollins would cost next year as a UFA?

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    In two years when the Lakers hypothetically would have been screwed over by the balloon in Reaves’s contract, LeBron will be 40 and the Lakers will be irrelevant. Why risk messing with the Spurs’ plans for the mid-2020’s just to screw with a team that doesn’t matter anyway by then? Because of things that happened 15-20 years ago? Because Laker fans are annoying?

    Or what? Are we worried that Giannis is going to stop being the Greek Orthodox version of David Robinson as a goody two-shoes and decide he wants the glitz and glamour of L.A., and Reaves’ contract would have been the only thing to stop him?

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    Going through other teams lottery garbage. I wouldn’t pay Reddish minimum.
    Lakerfans were praising Pelinka for it on Twitter before it went down for the first time today. The Jackson Hayes deal made them goo their pants though and that's when I knew they were even dumber than I thought.

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    I mean from my POV I idn't want the Spurs to sign Reaves to an offer sheet to with the Lakers - that was merely a benefit. I wanted them to sign him.

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    A potential Portland-Miami deal for Damian Lillard would almost certainly include the involvement of a third team, league sources tell @NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport.

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    Sure - but even given that they have done a phenomenal job. Can’t help if AD or Lebron miss time or can’t hack it. But they are giving them a legit chance
    Not denying they did a good job putting some pieces around them. Just saying let's pump the brakes on anointing them best in the West; they're still likely to be a play-in team.

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    Magic keep Mo Wagner on 2-year, $16M contract - via @espn App

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    Look, again, there’s a difference in throwing baby out with bath water (saying SA sucks or is in an awful spot) and discussing some very real missed opportunities and nuance. Spurs have not had a good free agency period. Now, does that mean they were awful? No. They did fine with Tre and Cham but that was literally the bare minimum lol.

    There was so much more opportunity to get creative and maybe they still do. But I dont like the Cedi trade as it represents just money and no basketball help at all and that’s not what I want to see with a team that has SO MUCH cap space and picks etc….there’s more that could have and should have (and maybe will) been done here.

    Nuance. Context.
    The ability to take context into account is increasingly difficult for people. They see the blaring headline or main point but completely fail to take into account the author's caveats that often completely hedge against that main point.

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    Lakers are having a good off season, but I think some of it is being overstated. If you take away the "undrafted guy who became a starter" narrative, Gabe Vincent is really just a very average player. If no one is saying "Oh no, the Lakers lost Dennis Schroder!" then it should be equally as quiet on the "Lakers landed Gabe Vincent" front.

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    Lakers badly overrated. Guess people really fall for the Klutch nonsense.

    Houston meanwhile traded two second round picks and can just to get off the salary of two recent first round draft picks.

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    All signs pointed to Houston wanting to make moves to be more compe ive this year. Hard to imagine the currently reported deal is the end of this - I’m guessing they’re about to do something with the increased cap space they just created.

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    All signs pointed to Houston wanting to make moves to be more compe ive this year. Hard to imagine the currently reported deal is the end of this - I’m guessing they’re about to do something with the increased cap space they just created.
    I think it’s very likely an overpay for Dillon Brooks

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    I'm trying to figure out what the max Champagnie's contract could be next season. IIRC, there's a stipulation that an option year at the end of a contract can't be for less money than the previous year. But I think the Spurs may be able to get around that by making the last season unguaranteed rather than an option. I believe it also depends how exactly the Spurs sign him that determines whether the Spurs can decline his contract by 8% or 5%.

    Assuming 8% declines and no rule against the last year of the contract being the lowest, it looks like Champagnie's contract could start at $3,410,000. Does that look right Chinook, Bruno, etc?
    Gotcha - I was hoping it could start at like 4/5M in year one…

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    Lakers are having a good off season, but I think some of it is being overstated. If you take away the "undrafted guy who became a starter" narrative, Gabe Vincent is really just a very average player. If no one is saying "Oh no, the Lakers lost Dennis Schroder!" then it should be equally as quiet on the "Lakers landed Gabe Vincent" front.
    Oh totally forgot they lost Schroeder, who was a good fit for them. Losing him and gaining Vincent is a loss to me.

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    Spurs licking their chops at the possibility of adding more SRP’s.

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    yes but if we're doing that top 10 then that means its a push if the Lakers end up with a top 10 pick (or worst 10 record rather).
    200 dollar wager.

    Reaves has to average 30mpg for the regular season for you to win.

    If Lakers end up as a bottom 10 team or tied for bottom 10 record then it’s a push.

    I’d like a minimum games played stipulation as well. He needs to play at least 62 games.

    Sound good?

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