Trade Rumor: Cedi Osman to Spurs (Edit: Trade complete. Osman, Stevens and a second round pick to Spurs.)

[timvp]

Did we ever get word on what the Spurs gave up in this trade? I'd imagine it was a fake SRP, but we had to have given up something, correct?

Yeah, they had to give up something. Most likely a top 55 protected second round pick or $110,000 in cash (if that's still the minimum cash in this new CBA).

[DPG21920]

I was with you until here (though I'm not interested in Grant Williams at $50 million). OKC just did a similar deal to this but it was for the corpse of Oladipo. I'd rather get a potentially rosterable player on a cheaper contract and a second from a bad organization than that move, tbh.

OKC in the draft absorbed Bertans' terrible contract to move up two spots in the draft. That doesn't sound like assassin level asset management, IMO.

Disagree. They moved up. They accomplished their goal. I dont care about overpaying etc..if it means consolidation or getting what you want (whether we agree or not with the players etc…).

I dont care about it and honestly Cedi sucks too lmao - I was not saying that Dipo deal specifically was amazing - its more their mindset compared to SA. OKC has so many picks etc they could easily rest on that and take it easy. But they are moving up in draft, still taking guys on etc and their collective mindset last few years is just relentless asset ac ulation and talent ac ulation

[timvp]

Disagree. They moved up. They accomplished their goal. I dont care about overpaying etc..if it means consolidation or getting what you want (whether we agree or not with the players etc…).

Since when do you not care about overpaying, tbh? I know we've been on the same size arguing the Spurs overpaid and/or didn't get proper value. You would have been cool with giving Poeltl the max because that would have meant "consolidation or getting what you want"?

[DPG21920]

Since when do you not care about overpaying, tbh? I know we've been on the same size arguing the Spurs overpaid and/or didn't get proper value. You would have been cool with giving Poeltl the max because that would have meant "consolidation or getting what you want"?

Clarification: I do care about overpaying lol - I meant as long as its not egregious and especially during the draft to move up to get who you want….but ya, aging free agents or awkward fits? Definitely care about value and overpaying.

But when it comes to draft and moving up? If you have to overpay some then that’s where all the hard work of having extra picks helps etc..

[Drom John]

FiveThirtyEight Raptor VORP

126T) Tyus Jones, Monte Morris, Cedi Osman, Robert Williams III

The only Spur better, Tre Jones


229) Brandon Boston Jr, Jarrell Brantley, Thomas Bryant, Jared Butler, Fecundo Campazzo, Matthew Dellanova, Moussa Diabate, Ayo Dosunmu, Jeff Dowtin Jr., PJ Dozier, Ron Harper Jr, Andre iguadola, Alize Johnson, Corey Kispert, Saben Lee, Seth McClung, Jaylen Nowell, Micah Potter, Orlando Robinson, Jeremiah Robinson-Earl, Jaden Springer, Lamar Stevens, Edmond Sumner, Kemba Walker, Ziaire Williams

Slightly above league average.

Spurs who played worse than Lamar Stevens:

Dominick Barlow, Joshua Primo, Julian Champagnie, Khem Birch, Jordan Hall, Sandro Mamukellashvili, Gorgui Dieng, Doug McDermont, Blake Wesley, Malaki Branham

[JPB]

FiveThirtyEight Raptor VORP

126T) Tyus Jones, Monte Morris, Cedi Osman, Robert Williams III

The only Spur better, Tre Jones


229) Brandon Boston Jr, Jarrell Brantley, Thomas Bryant, Jared Butler, Fecundo Campazzo, Matthew Dellanova, Moussa Diabate, Ayo Dosunmu, Jeff Dowtin Jr., PJ Dozier, Ron Harper Jr, Andre iguadola, Alize Johnson, Corey Kispert, Saben Lee, Seth McClung, Jaylen Nowell, Micah Potter, Orlando Robinson, Jeremiah Robinson-Earl, Jaden Springer, Lamar Stevens, Edmond Sumner, Kemba Walker, Ziaire Williams

Slightly above league average.

Spurs who played worse than Lamar Stevens:

Dominick Barlow, Joshua Primo, Julian Champagnie, Khem Birch, Jordan Hall, Sandro Mamukellashvili, Gorgui Dieng, Doug McDermont, Blake Wesley, Malaki Branham

In a tanking year, which biases all these stats.

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FiveThirtyEight Raptor VORP

126T) Tyus Jones, Monte Morris, Cedi Osman, Robert Williams III

The only Spur better, Tre Jones


229) Brandon Boston Jr, Jarrell Brantley, Thomas Bryant, Jared Butler, Fecundo Campazzo, Matthew Dellanova, Moussa Diabate, Ayo Dosunmu, Jeff Dowtin Jr., PJ Dozier, Ron Harper Jr, Andre iguadola, Alize Johnson, Corey Kispert, Saben Lee, Seth McClung, Jaylen Nowell, Micah Potter, Orlando Robinson, Jeremiah Robinson-Earl, Jaden Springer, Lamar Stevens, Edmond Sumner, Kemba Walker, Ziaire Williams

Slightly above league average.

Spurs who played worse than Lamar Stevens:

Dominick Barlow, Joshua Primo, Julian Champagnie, Khem Birch, Jordan Hall, Sandro Mamukellashvili, Gorgui Dieng, Doug McDermont, Blake Wesley, Malaki Branham

People who don't understand what tanking is fascinate me.

[Ice009]

I think anyone reading tea leaves can tell he's intrigued by the Lakers. He wanted to play their scrubs in the Summer League...in Sacramento. Lol.

And I'm perfectly calm bro. I'm also not burying my head in the sand about showing our young superstar that we are able and willing to spend money on say a Brook Lopez or other player to help make the team better.

Answer this question, will Wembanyama be cool playing on a team that finishes under .500 this next year when he's talking about ringing soon and often? And when we barely reach the salary floor?

Final point. There a poster here, name eludes me now, that basically already said his third contract would be signed elsewhere I gather from stuff he heard or read.

Do you remember who said this? What would his 3rd contract be? His first free agency contract after his rookie extension?

Also, not sure if it was you that mentioned it, but someone said he's not planning to play for a long time? Is that because he doesn't want to, or if he's not sure about his body so he wants to win as soon as possible?

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Do you remember who said this? What would his 3rd contract be? His first free agency contract after his rookie extension?

Also, not sure if it was you that mentioned it, but someone said he's not planning to play for a long time? Is that because he doesn't want to, or if he's not sure about his body so he wants to win as soon as possible?

No I don't. I recall it was a European poster from France as I recall though it might have been a Polish guy??. And it was from before the draft too IIRC. Was something that caught my attention and I responded to him about it. He referenced that Wemby wanted to play here but would likely sign his first UFA contract in a bigger market.

As for his playing tenure, I saw Wembanyama say something responding to a question about how long he wanted to play or if he wanted to be still playing at Lebrons age or something and he stated he didn't think he'd still be playing that long. Could have just been deferential respect for LeBron but that's not how I heard it in real time.

[exstatic]

No I don't. I recall it was a European poster from France as I recall though it might have been a Polish guy??. And it was from before the draft too IIRC. Was something that caught my attention and I responded to him about it. He referenced that Wemby wanted to play here but would likely sign his first UFA contract in a bigger market.

As for his playing tenure, I saw Wembanyama say something responding to a question about how long he wanted to play or if he wanted to be still playing at Lebrons age or something and he stated he didn't think he'd still be playing that long. Could have just been deferential respect for LeBron but that's not how I heard it in real time.

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass-out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

[Kurik]

Next up is the Illuminati caused the an implosion and Wemby is involved.

[stephen jackson]

Can’t wait till wemby gets tired of this it’s already starting

[Mr. Body]

Can’t wait till wemby gets tired of this it’s already starting

When signing his contract, Victor was seen to pause. "Wait, we're not getting Dillon Brooks for $80 million?? this !"

And he threw the pen across the room.

[ismael-robert]

It's not Dillon, its not taking a chance on Reaves. 15-20 could got him. Next year, again he'll (reaves) make people regret it.

[ChumpDumper]

Wemby's going to quit before his first season because we didn't overpay Austin Reaves?

[Mr. Body]

Wemby's going to quit before his first season because we didn't overpay Austin Reaves?

Victor said he came over to America to meet Austin Reaves.

[ismael-robert]

Eye roll, it's skipping opportunities to improve team, not one player

[T Park]

Eye roll, it's skipping opportunities to improve team, not one player

correct, but these people overrate a 20 win roster and think improving the team is some bad thing.

Loser ass mentality

[ChumpDumper]

Eye roll, it's skipping opportunities to improve team, not one player

Taking ty opportunities now to forego better ones later isn't great.

It's a ty FA class. You don't FOMO on these guys. There are better ways to improve the team this season than ty July panic signings.

[ismael-robert]

He fits everything they seem to look for in a player, team player, fits "timeline", plays d...I don't understand how someone who fits their mold so perfectly was not even offered

[ismael-robert]

Next year Reaves will show he was a missed opportunity

[ismael-robert]

I think romeo was meant to be our defensive stopper like Bruce. Offense wasn't really required. Stevens may be that now

[rankingtear]

It's not Dillon, its not taking a chance on Reaves. 15-20 could got him. Next year, again he'll (reaves) make people regret it.

LAL would match anything because of the Arenas rule. We never could have gotten him, this way he is unrestricted in 3 years instead of 4. So by not offering anything we increase our chance of getting him. He also would make less when Lebron retires and you can trade for him. Big brain move.

[Uriel]

An unpopular reason why Spurs haven't add some vets this summer could be that they are planing on "half tanking" this season.

Spurs won't try to lose games on purpose but they might not want to add vets that will allow them to win an handful more regular season games. Getting, let's say, a top 6 pick in next year draft might be a big part of the equation.

Agree, and I actually think this is exactly the plan. One more year in the lottery, one more year of internal development from our young players. It may not be the most popular option, especially from the win-now crowd, but it is the best long-term plan.

[BackHome]

When in Vegas if ya got the Hot hand keep playing we got the number 1 pick this year I am feeling lucky come on number 1 - 2024. Lol