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    There is a logjam of guards in Portland, is there not?

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    I think if we’re still struggling to win games with our current situation, we’re gonna get a little aggressive at the trade deadline
    If it looks like they are one piece away, that would be an excellent strategy.

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    The Trail Blazers do not plan to cooperate with Damian Lillard on his trade request to the Heat, per @wojespn:- Portland “open for business everywhere in the league” on trading Lillard.- Blazers seeking a combination of young players, draft picks and cap relief.- Miami has… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…
    Damn, that meeting must have gone poorly. Or, POR finally has its pretext while not looking like the “bad guys.”

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    Again, if the only loss here is Vassell and one or two FRPs, you do this trade every day.

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    Again, if the only loss here is Vassell and one or two FRPs, you do this trade every day.
    I’d have to think about it hard if it’s Keldon + Filler + and two FRPs (especially if we keep one of the ATL ones).

    But I’d still lean no honestly.

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    I think if we’re still struggling to win games with our current situation, we’re gonna get a little aggressive at the trade deadline
    I think the right term is “tweak” by trade deadline, continuing the development onto the next season. Pop will assess what players need to compliment best to maximize Wemby’s game likewise the whole team, and make the necessary moves. Right now is too early to make those BIG moves (big costly mistakes). It’s prudent to get Wemby’s feet wet and slowly transition him without the high risk of injury. The Spurs have arsenals of future FRP and SRP’s plus assets. I seriously think PATFO will pull the trigger on a big move (if any) when the time comes.

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    Trust the process

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    I’d have to think about it hard if it’s Keldon + Filler + and two FRPs (especially if we keep one of the ATL ones).

    But I’d still lean no honestly.
    It's gonna be way more than 2 firsts. Damian has like 4 years left on his contract. And that contract is already starting to not look so bad after the contracts signed yesterday.

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    Again, if the only loss here is Vassell and one or two FRPs, you do this trade every day.
    Would the Blazers even want Vassell? He is due for a bigger salary next year and the Blazers just committed a 100 mil to Simons last year, and are super high on Sharpe. It would appear that they are set at the Wing spots.

    If I were the GM, I'd try to max out unprotected picks/swaps rather than focusing on any particular players. Of course, you want to avoid taking back bloated contracts with more than 2 yrs left on em.

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    I wouldn't trade Vassell for Lillard unless they were the same age.

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    Would the Blazers even want Vassell? He is due for a bigger salary next year and the Blazers just committed a 100 mil to Simons last year, and are super high on Sharpe. It would appear that they are set at the Wing spots.

    If I were the GM, I'd try to max out unprotected picks/swaps rather than focusing on any particular players. Of course, you want to avoid taking back bloated contracts with more than 2 yrs left on em.
    Would the Rockets even want Vanvleet? They’ve already drafted Amen Thompson, they are high on KPJ, Jalen Green needs the ball, etc…

    never trust these orgs to make sense in any of their moves.

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    The big three of
    timmy,manu, parker…

    was a solid big who excelled at defense , could score,distribute, draw mismatches and competed fiercely
    a scoring guard who could get into the paint at will, draw fouls, and carry the team at times…
    a combo guard who could do unorthodox things, create turnovers, steals, lead breaks, competed fiercely, etc…


    hmmmm

    If you squint a little you could see…Lillard, Wemby & Sochan….

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    I know the whole "loyalty" topic has been front and center with the Lillard/Portland situation, but Miami simply doesn't have as much to offer as some other teams at this point. If Portland takes an inferior offer just to look like the Good Guys, I think it'd be a mistake for a team desperately in need of help. The Dame/Nurkic pairing reminds me a lot of the Westbrook/Adams pairing in that it was unlikely to bring a championship, but the supposed advanced-stats-savvy/moneyballing front offices kept them together long enough for their value to go down. I'm much more a fan of what Ainge has done in Utah: he had two stars who didn't get along, and everybody thought he needed to decide which one to build around and which to trade. But he looked and saw a Center with no offensive game, and a 6'2" SG who wasn't a defender and decided to trade both of them at peak value, getting back some good players and a bunch of future assets.

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    The big three of
    timmy,manu, parker…

    was a solid big who excelled at defense , could score,distribute, draw mismatches and competed fiercely
    a scoring guard who could get into the paint at will, draw fouls, and carry the team at times…
    a combo guard who could do unorthodox things, create turnovers, steals, lead breaks, competed fiercely, etc…


    hmmmm

    If you squint a little you could see…Lillard, Wemby & Sochan….
    Lillard can be the “1st gen” team up for Wemby… it could be similar to the gap between DRob and Timmy. Lillard can help be an everyday guide to Wemby and show him the ropes on how to handle s om in the NBA.

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    Would the Rockets even want Vanvleet? They’ve already drafted Amen Thompson, they are high on KPJ, Jalen Green needs the ball, etc…

    never trust these orgs to make sense in any of their moves.
    The Spurs are like someone who checks their shopping list before going out.

    The Rockets look like someone who checks their credit limit before going out.

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    Would the Blazers even want Vassell? He is due for a bigger salary next year and the Blazers just committed a 100 mil to Simons last year, and are super high on Sharpe. It would appear that they are set at the Wing spots.

    If I were the GM, I'd try to max out unprotected picks/swaps rather than focusing on any particular players. Of course, you want to avoid taking back bloated contracts with more than 2 yrs left on em.
    Here's what I think a potential trade would look like. This one would include us taking Nurkic as well and sending out KJ and sending 5 firsts and 5 seconds.


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    Here's what I think a potential trade would look like. This one would include us taking Nurkic as well and sending out KJ and sending 5 firsts and 5 seconds.
    no to that offer.

    I wouldn't do more than 3 firsts, especially if Keldon is also in the deal. He's 33 and even 3 firsts and Keldon would be a way better offer than anything else they get.

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    Here's what I think a potential trade would look like. This one would include us taking Nurkic as well and sending out KJ and sending 5 firsts and 5 seconds.

    But why????

    Nurkic is a salary dump for them anyway, so they should pay for him.

    And nobody can offer many picks for Lillard so why are you just throwing the farm??

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    Here's what I think a potential trade would look like. This one would include us taking Nurkic as well and sending out KJ and sending 5 firsts and 5 seconds.

    This is nowhere close to reality tbh. This is just the Spurs outbidding themselves. No other team would even offer that.

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    Here's what I think a potential trade would look like. This one would include us taking Nurkic as well and sending out KJ and sending 5 firsts and 5 seconds.



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    Spurs are not gonna trade for Lillard. They're focused on an entirely different horizon, a bigger picture and they're right about that. That's the right way to do, don't let the big shiny hotels and casinos drag you away from the main road and destination.

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    ^ oh no not all those 1st round picks.

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    This is nowhere close to reality tbh. This is just the Spurs outbidding themselves. No other team would even offer that.
    Yeah, 3 first and 3 seconds might do it. I just wanted to show you guys what might be the WORST case. We would still have first round picks every year going forward and still have an Atlanta pick. I'm not saying above is the trade. Just floating something out there. But I do want you to be prepared that four years of prime Lillard won't be cheap.

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    Spurs are not gonna trade for Lillard. They're focused on an entirely different horizon, a bigger picture and they're right about that. That's the right way to do, don't let the big shiny hotels and casinos drag you away from the main road and destination.

    Thats what im saying

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    First it was Austin Powers… Reaves, now Damn Lilliard. Spurs are not trading Vassell. I’d buy it if and when Pop already assessed Wemby’s game, when he’s NBA strong, etc. When the moment is right, nobody is untouchable if what is best for the team (see DJM trade). Right now is too early in the game. Don’t spend all your s money. The night is young. Somebody better will come along.

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