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    Just spitballing: does a package of branham, Wesley, and 2-3 firsts get it done?

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    KJ played with Dame at the Olympics. He's probably hoping for the Spurs to get in the mix.

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    Just spitballing: does a package of branham, Wesley, and 2-3 firsts get it done?
    Likely not. A trade of this magnitude requires names that are more publicly known so when PR comes for the Blazers, it will be easy to explain. Vassell and/or KJ are the premier names from the Spurs. Swap them with Branham and Wesley and that’s the type of deal that gets it done. IMO, it will only need Vassell. I don’t think KJ will net him by himself.

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    I think we shpuld let Brooklyn get him and unload Simmons to Portland in the process..
    Im good with that. I will take Simmons on for one of those PHX unprotected picks tbh..

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    Man there are some /r/nbaspurs level takes in here.

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    That might just happen with Luka soon after another run with Kyrie... hoping.
    I’d love to have Luka, but Mav fans would burn down the AAC if the Mavs traded him to San Antonio.

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    Been seeing some Twitter noise regarding Dame to Toronto for Scottie Barnes + draft picks. Just the kind of splash Masai loves to make tbh. Doubt it happens, but would suck for our pick next year.

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    i think portland will gouge us because they know what we got with picks and will demand an absurd amount. spurs will need to wait for Lillard to really turn the screws to get a deal and will probably get outbid before that.

    We really don't know if the holt and wright era is disciplined to avoid a bad trade but with pop returning they will probably hold out unless pop really loves lillard.

    WE have no idea how close they are to Luka, but i would not be mad if the MAVS got kawhi leonarded .

    Wemby needs acclimatation (sochan as well) to the true NBA skill : getting players to collude to create superteams.

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    All Dame has to say is "I am only playing for X, XX, XXX team - if your not on the list do you really want to waste all your draft picks on a guy who doesn't want to be there? I honestly think Dame has told management he will only play for 3 teams and he will not play for any other team - Now Portland will get a little more now that they adding New York or maybe Nets ...

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    All Dame has to say is "I am only playing for X, XX, XXX team - if your not on the list do you really want to waste all your draft picks on a guy who doesn't want to be there?
    he did that an said miami and portland have called his bluff. He needs to pull a kwahi now

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    All Dame has to say is "I am only playing for X, XX, XXX team - if your not on the list do you really want to waste all your draft picks on a guy who doesn't want to be there? I honestly think Dame has told management he will only play for 3 teams and he will not play for any other team - Now Portland will get a little more now that they adding New York or maybe Nets ...
    He’s got four years left on that awful contract. He has to go where they send him.

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    he did that an said miami and portland have called his bluff. He needs to pull a kwahi now
    Problem is that Kawhi only had one year left on his deal. Lillard has two.

    Dude can sit there and say "I want Miami" all he wants, but Portland has no obligation to take a ty deal to keep him happy and Dame will be stuck wherever he goes unless he wants to sit out 2 seasons ad miss $100M

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    Problem is that Kawhi only had one year left on his deal. Lillard has two.

    Dude can sit there and say "I want Miami" all he wants, but Portland has no obligation to take a ty deal to keep him happy and Dame will be stuck wherever he goes unless he wants to sit out 2 seasons ad miss $100M
    Four years left on his deal.

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    I'll take him if Portland just has to give him away like the Spurs had to give Leonard away. But the Atlanta picks, the Spurs 2025 pick (eg the Atlanta swap), and the Spurs 2028 pick (the Boston swap) are off the market here. Wouldn't give Sochan either, nor probably Vassell. If Portland gets forced to accept something like Keldon, the Charlotte pick, the Chicago pick, and change then I'd probably take Dame despite that contract.

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    Four years left on his deal.
    Damn you right, Spotrac didn't make it obvious

    Yeah, dude has zero leverage here to demand anything other than hoping Portland does him favors for his "loyalty"

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    Damn you right, Spotrac didn't make it obvious

    Yeah, dude has zero leverage here to demand anything other than hoping Portland does him favors for his "loyalty"
    LOL loyalty. Love seeing second rate stars like Lillard and third rate stars like Beal talking loyalty to their teams when it's really loyalty to that cash money when they're paid like first rate stars.

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    That might just happen with Luka soon after another run with Kyrie... hoping.
    Cuban will do every single thing in his power to keep Luka till he retires.
    Even if it means strong-arming him and hold zero regard to Luka's wishes.

    Cuban's like that.

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    Imagine Dame stretching the floor to 35-feet out, and Wemby inside.

    I still don't see it happening, but...man, that would be fun to watch.
    Oh absolutely. I mentioned the idea several days ago and was convinced that his salary and age were deal killers.

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    Oh absolutely. I mentioned the idea several days ago and was convinced that his salary and age were deal killers.
    Age sure, but if you add that Wemby is on rookie deal through all 4 years Dame has left on the deal, you can swallow that deal and make it work. As long as Johson and his below market deal is not part of trade package

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    Cuban will do every single thing in his power to keep Luka till he retires.
    Even if it means strong-arming him and hold zero regard to Luka's wishes.

    Cuban's like that.
    Not sure how you think he could do that.

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    Age sure, but if you add that Wemby is on rookie deal through all 4 years Dame has left on the deal, you can swallow that deal and make it work. As long as Johson and his below market deal is not part of trade package
    Just because you can maybe afford it doesn't make it the best deal available over the next 48 months. At some point an actual superstar who is young might become available. There aren't really any basketball reasons to sacrifice that flexibility.

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    Not sure how you think he could do that.
    Doesn't matter how I think what I think.
    What matters is how Cuban thinks what he thinks.

    Full money grabs, no trades despite demands, trying to do what Luka wants...

    I will be beyond shocked if Luka leaves the Mavs.
    Not from him wanting to do what he wants, but from playing under an owner that's going to keep him no matter what.


    Luka will need to sacrifice big bucks to walk away.


    JMO

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    Doesn't matter how I think what I think.
    What matters is how Cuban thinks what he thinks.

    Full money grabs, no trades despite demands, trying to do what Luka wants...

    I will be beyond shocked if Luka leaves the Mavs.
    Not from him wanting to do what he wants, but from playing under an owner that's going to keep him no matter what.


    Luka will need to sacrifice big bucks to walk away.


    JMO
    Cuban doesn't have the power to keep an ufa when his contract is up...no owner does

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    Cuban doesn't have the power to keep an ufa when his contract is up...no owner does
    You're right, but like I said:

    Luka will need to sacrifice big bucks to walk away.

    That is it and that is all.

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    Doesn't matter how I think what I think.
    What matters is how Cuban thinks what he thinks.

    Full money grabs, no trades despite demands, trying to do what Luka wants...

    I will be beyond shocked if Luka leaves the Mavs.
    Not from him wanting to do what he wants, but from playing under an owner that's going to keep him no matter what.


    Luka will need to sacrifice big bucks to walk away.


    JMO
    Actually it does matter how you think what you think. What you are suggesting is impossible. If Luka is at the end of his contract and wants to leave, all Mark Cuban can do is make handicapped faces about it.

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