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    Jeff Ayres lurks.

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    they just said he got bigger offers elsewhere
    we're dragging our feet to reach the floor, let alone the cap

    coulda just sold some SRPs if it wasnt in Holt's budget to offer him even more than we did

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    we're dragging our feet to reach the floor, let alone the cap

    coulda just sold some SRPs if it wasnt in Holt's budget to offer him even more than we did
    What did we offer him?

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    Not many centers left on the market, we might be in for a surprise. Ioannis Bourousis?

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    Good. With Plumlee officially off the board, that takes care of the final free agent rim running C, who'd have been guaranteed a rotation spot, to further clog up the offense and limit some of the younger bigs.

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    What did we offer him?
    not enough

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    Free agent F Torrey Craig has agreed on a two-year contract with the Chicago Bulls, sources tell ESPN. Deal includes a player option. Craig averaged 7.4 points and 5.4 rebounds in 24 minutes for Suns last season.

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    What did you want to pay him and for what role?

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    Plumlee had better offers but wanted to stay. Here's where ST insists on how they could have forced him to make a different decision.

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    What did you want to pay him and for what role?
    given that we arent even approaching the cap, it wouldnt have made much a difference if we threw 2 million at him or 20 million for the year. i know plumlee turned down bigger offers, but i dont think you had to approach 20 to get him. maybe im wrong there. ill own that the possibility exists that plumlee was so happy with LAC that he signed 1/5 there and would have turned down even 1/15 from SAS. i just dont think its likely

    think if everything we've heard is true about the FO not wanting Wemby to play much center (at least early on), it made sense to have somebody in addition to Zollins in place ready to take on that more traditional big man role. last year we had the poeltl/collins rotation until the poeltl trade. right now the closest thing we have to that role is Bassey. i think PATFO likes bassey, and i'm cool with that. but he's not proven, and would much rather have an established player there in case bassey doesnt make the big leap we all want him to

    at this point we're in the same position as last year. a lot of unused cap space. last year we looked and looked for avenues to rent cap space for assets and didnt do anything of the sort other than Dedmon. i hope they get something done this year.

    its just throwing away value otherwise. you can defer picks by trading them for future picks. you cant defer or roll over cap space. if you dont use it, its a wasted asset

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    lol Plumlee could've had a mansion in San Antonio and 1,000's of acres of land instead he gets a 1,500 home in LA

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    I think it's pretty obvious now that we're just shooting for another top 10 pick here, who will be the tank commander?

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    given that we arent even approaching the cap, it wouldnt have made much a difference if we threw 2 million at him or 20 million for the year
    I mean sure, it wouldn't have made any difference to you how much of the Spurs money you spend. What would have been realistic?

    think if everything we've heard is true about the FO not wanting Wemby to play much center (at least early on), it made sense to have somebody in addition to Zollins in place ready to take on that more traditional big man role. last year we had the poeltl/collins rotation until the poeltl trade. right now the closest thing we have to that role is Bassey. i think PATFO likes bassey, and i'm cool with that. but he's not proven, and would much rather have an established player there in case bassey doesnt make the big leap we all want him to
    His role in LA is backup center on a playoff team. Being rented as training wheels for a year seems less attractive.

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    Zubac & Claxton would be great if the Spurs are one of the teams in the Lillard/Harden scenarios.

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    I mean sure, it wouldn't have made any difference to you how much of the Spurs money you spend. What would have been realistic?
    if the spurs budget doesnt even get as high as the nba salary cap, we have a lot bigger issues than what's being discussed

    His role in LA is backup center on a playoff team. Being rented as training wheels for a year seems less attractive.

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    if the spurs budget doesnt even get as high as the nba salary cap, we have a lot bigger issues than what's being discussed
    Yeah people keep saying that -- but what does that actually mean? I think the floor is pretty much the cap this season. Are fans going to jump ship if that turns out to be the case?


    How much?

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    I didn't follow the Mavs. Is Wood worth throwing a bit of money at or is he empty calories?

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    I didn't follow the Mavs. Is Wood worth throwing a bit of money at or is he empty calories?
    nope. we have to avoid costly mistakes

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    Holt LLC: "Paying anything is a costly mistake"

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    Yeah people keep saying that -- but what does that actually mean? I think the floor is pretty much the cap this season.
    it means we're operating out of even more of a compe ive disadvantage than anybody here had thought

    that sucks tbh

    its like the scene in moneyball where brad pitt has to explain "the problem"

    Are fans going to jump ship if that turns out to be the case?
    everybody here stuck around through a ing tank year

    does that mean we should smile and say thank you when operating as a poverty franchise? this is the kind of stuff that could drive stars away. theres no guarantee wemby will be a duncan. its concerning is all. two years in a row starts making this a trend

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    doug has definitely been overpaid, but im not sure its actually that easy to replace him. its not just a matter of looking down the league leaders page and finding a guy who shoots 3's near 40% at his size. its the volume, the quality of shot, the movement necessary to generate his looks, etc. its a less common skill than people think. its why belinelli stuck around too
    That’s not the point imo. Spurs clearly don’t value winning now so replacing him just means a good vet that gets the minutes he already had.

    If they were winning? Agree 100%

    But they aren’t and can use their tools for their future while not sacrificing core things like a good vet replacement in locker room and on court.

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    it means we're operating out of even more of a compe ive disadvantage than anybody here had thought

    that sux tbh

    everybody here stuck around through a ing tank year

    does that mean we should smile and say thank you when operating as a poverty franchise? this is the kind of stuff that could drive stars away. theres no guaranteed wemby will be a duncan. its concerning is all.
    IOW you're not jumping ship. The ownership group thanks you for your continued support.

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    I didn't follow the Mavs. Is Wood worth throwing a bit of money at or is he empty calories?
    Nope. He’s young and talented and can’t stick anywhere due to at ude and locker room issues seemingly. Red flags big time and spurs can’t risk adding something toxic to locker room imo. That’s one risk not to take

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    That’s not the point imo. Spurs clearly don’t value winning now so replacing him just means a good vet that gets the minutes he already had.

    If they were winning? Agree 100%

    But they aren’t and can use their tools for their future while not sacrificing core things like a good vet replacement in locker room and on court.
    yeah i definitely thinking moving mcdermott is the move. i just wonder what we can really expect by way of compensation. teams have been way more stingy with picks in recent years. if josh richardson couldnt net a first, im skeptical mdcermott will.

    guess we just just pile on to the mountain of SRPs we can sell for cash later. maybe that way we can hit the floor one of these years

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