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    Jesus they couldn’t even get Plumlee
    Wow
    you once again dreamed up something like before the draft
    and when this SUDDENLY does not happen, you begin to nervously beat your fists on the keyboard

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    It's different NBA now, money is absurd.
    Owners are willing to pay 250mil with penalty taxes to keep their 50 mil a year players. Spurs won when whole cap was 50mil. You cannot compete 100mil roster vs 250mil, in league where any player can request a trade to certain team.
    Welp, you might have to root for a sovereign fund to buy the Spurs if you think that's the only way to go now.

    I think the ownership is doing this because the money is absurd and they're making the profit while they have this one-time windfall.

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    Welp, you might have to root for a sovereign fund to buy the Spurs if you think that's the only way to go now.

    I think the ownership is doing this because the money is absurd and they're making the profit while they have this one-time windfall.
    Sure you can always fill the piggy bank now, and spend it later when true window opens

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    Yeah people keep saying that -- but what does that actually mean? I think the floor is pretty much the cap this season. Are fans going to jump ship if that turns out to be the case?



    How much?
    People can not jump ship but see that as a less than ideal move. Is it that hard to understand?

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    Sure you can always fill the piggy bank now, and spend it later when true window opens
    I think it would be odd for a small-time ownership group to not do this.

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    Spurs not signing a couple of vet FA to improve the team is clearly a choice. This choice had its edges and drawbacks

    On the + side :
    - It gives more playing time to end of the bench prospect like Champagnie or Bassey. With enough playing time, these players might turn into good rotation NBA players.
    - Spurs 2024 first round pick will be better.

    On the - side:
    - Vets give a more structured play which will help young players development.
    - Winning is nice for the players morale/confidence which also impact their development.

    I'm sure I'm missing some plusses and minuses but you get the idea. You can't really say Spurs are awesome/stupid to sign nobody because there isn't an obvious right move.

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    I didn't follow the Mavs. Is Wood worth throwing a bit of money at or is he empty calories?
    Definitely not the locker room presence I want for young players.

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    People can not jump ship but see that as a less than ideal move. Is it that hard to understand?
    I never said anyone's criticism is invalid. It's all a matter of opinion.

    Again, I'm just saying what I think is going on. It makes sense to me even if it might not be what I want to happen.

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    Spurs not signing a couple of vet FA to improve the team is clearly a choice. This choice had its edges and drawbacks

    On the + side :
    - It gives more playing time to end of the bench prospect like Champagnie or Bassey. With enough playing time, these players might turn into good rotation NBA players.
    - Spurs 2024 first round pick will be better.

    On the - side:
    - Vets give a more structured play which will help young players development.
    - Winning is nice for the players morale/confidence which also impact their development.

    I'm sure I'm missing some plusses and minuses but you get the idea. You can't really say Spurs are awesome/stupid to sign nobody because there isn't an obvious right move.
    stop trying to be a voice of reason; this in violation of ST protocol.

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    Spurs not signing a couple of vet FA to improve the team is clearly a choice. This choice had its edges and drawbacks

    On the + side :
    - It gives more playing time to end of the bench prospect like Champagnie or Bassey. With enough playing time, these players might turn into good rotation NBA players.
    - Spurs 2024 first round pick will be better.

    On the - side:
    - Vets give a more structured play which will help young players development.
    - Winning is nice for the players morale/confidence which also impact their development.

    I'm sure I'm missing some plusses and minuses but you get the idea. You can't really say Spurs are awesome/stupid to sign nobody because there isn't an obvious right move.
    Give it a day or two when they bring back Gorgui so they can get the worst of both worlds

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    I have no problem with the wait and see approach. Too many unknowns at the moment.

    If this was 24 year old Wemby in year 5 in the league and the Spurs are wasting his career with crap players, then yeah, I'll be more boisterous.

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    Give it a day or two when they bring back Gorgui so they can get the worst of both worlds
    On thing is sure, Gorgui won't help Spurs win games. We're safe on that side.

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    Assume Spurs are willing to help Miami and lets say they will take Tyler Herro and his massive deal. Would they have to add to trade or just taking this contract is enough ?

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    I mean don't wait next summer to extend vassell
    His contract will be up and he’ll be a RFA next summer. You can’t extend a contract that has ended.

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    Spurs not signing a couple of vet FA to improve the team is clearly a choice. This choice had its edges and drawbacks

    On the + side :
    - It gives more playing time to end of the bench prospect like Champagnie or Bassey. With enough playing time, these players might turn into good rotation NBA players.
    - Spurs 2024 first round pick will be better.

    On the - side:
    - Vets give a more structured play which will help young players development.
    - Winning is nice for the players morale/confidence which also impact their development.

    I'm sure I'm missing some plusses and minuses but you get the idea. You can't really say Spurs are awesome/stupid to sign nobody because there isn't an obvious right move.
    Good take. While I would have liked another big, it's not because of playing time but because of our recent injury history. Sochan, Collins, and Bassey each have injury concerns.

    Plumlee wasn't necessarily getting second role promises. Bassey is the priority. Plumlee may even get to start in LAC. He may - shockingly - like living there and the promise of a playoff spot.

    It's not a huge deal. Maybe I would have liked a Cody Zeller, but again we have a crew of bigs right now. Barlow is more promising than we thought.

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    Also, money isn't a reason for this. The Spurs organization is going to make a butt-load of money from Wembanyama this year. They're going to sell out every game at higher than usual prices and merch is going to fly out the door.

    The real cap? Plumlee is 33 years old and the team has about 12 players younger than 23, a 24 year old and a 25 year old. We can't get the average to go up too high.

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    Some real Sniff gems since they won the lottery tbh:

    -"They tried to trade back into the 1st round but the cost was too high" (Mavs easily traded back in with SAC)
    -Trading #33 makes a lot of sense because Sidy is probably on a two-way (Sidy is on a fully guaranteed contract)
    -Spurs should wait until July 6th to make an offer to Reaves, he'll definitely wait it out until then (Reaves signs on July 2nd at a heavy discount)
    -Mamu not getting a QO isn't a cheap move, they're working on something big (No other moves besides bringing Manu back for a few hundred K cheaper)
    -Spurs are being smart by not giving out huge money and locking up a bunch of years to FAs (Vet deals and 1yr contracts to a ton of guys that would have helped the roster and not even get in the way of the young guys)

    "Uhhh we like what we have"
    spurs do absolutely nothing in the offseason

    sniffers:


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    Assume Spurs are willing to help Miami and lets say they will take Tyler Herro and his massive deal. Would they have to add to trade or just taking this contract is enough ?
    Contract-wise Herro is quite similar to Jordan Poole. I find their level quite similar too.

    The Poole trade was something like Poole+1st for Chris Paul.

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    His contract will be up and he’ll be a RFA next summer. You can’t extend a contract that has ended.
    LOL I understand. spurs can extend vassell before the season right ? they can also SIGN him next summer ? so i understand the rules but thanks teacher

    SOOOOO What i mean it's better to extend him this summer than waiting a year

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    The way the Spurs are approaching free agency so far is strange. They're operating like an over-the-cap team.

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    Good take. While I would have liked another big, it's not because of playing time but because of our recent injury history. Sochan, Collins, and Bassey each have injury concerns.
    Agree. I also wonder if Khem Birch can still play. Having him at the end of bench (behind Bassey and Mamu) would work.

    A sure thing is that Spurs aren't done for this summer. They are currently between $2M and $4M below the floor and they will go over it for sure.

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    https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2024/ufa/

    a little bit similar to this year as jaylen brown will probably extend
    I think it's best to operate under the assumption that most FA classes will look like this one. Good players don't hit FA, they'll be extended or traded.

    I hope Spurs fans aren't waiting for us to pounce in the next epic FA class that will never come. Spurs will either draft or trade for their 2nd star.

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    The way the Spurs are approaching free agency so far is strange. They're operating like an over-the-cap team.
    theyre operating like an above the second apron repeat offender team

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    Spurs not signing a couple of vet FA to improve the team is clearly a choice
    But did they make an pitch for SOMEONE and FAILED, or they NEVER EVEN TRIED? We know what Brian Wright said about taking time to see where they're at, but this bit of information might help set expectations on what's to follow. It'd be interesting to dig a bit on this if you can, timvp

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    shame on BW and the spurs org for not generating a free agent pool of players that actually make sense for this team

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