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    Are the Holts still majority owners?
    My understanding is they are not majority owners, but they are the managing partners (meaning they are likely the biggest owner)

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    Would rather start MannyIsGod at PG and go 0-82 than trade for Harden so we could get the 6 seed.

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    Said it before but it bears repeating for those obsessed with adding a rotational C: The Heat made two Finals and three Conference Finals in four seasons with a bunch of undrafted players playing relatively important roles throughout.

    If they could do that, then surely the re-building Spurs can provide opportunity for similar types to do the same.
    Yeah and the Spurs have it better than the Heat with so many future first round picks. I feel like the Spurs are taking the OKC Thunder route when they drafted Durant, Harden, Westbrook and Ibaka.

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    Yeah and the Spurs have it better than the Heat with so many future first round picks. I feel like the Spurs are taking the OKC Thunder route when they drafted Durant, Harden, Westbrook and Ibaka.
    we're on track too. cheap OKC ownership cost them harden

    prioritizing kendrick porkins over harden

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    Denver has Jokic & Murray making a bank - Do people really want Spurs to splurge like that on some weak ass free agents?

    GSW had Curry, Klay, Dray & Wiggings... - Do people...

    Toronto in 19 had Nephew, Lowry making. - Do people...

    Milwaukee has Giannis, Middleton & Jrue.. - Do people....

    Spurs don't have anyone of that level on that roster, yet. Wemby will likely command that rookie designation max, and if the Spurs don't give it him then by all means posters should complaint loudly. Everyone would join in on that.

    Spending cap on fodder for the sake of spending is how you get a treadmilling team.

    Spurs ownership has shown that they are willing to pay the Luxury Tax during contending years before. It makes no sense to be upset about them not blowing their load rn when the team is just about to start their transition from tanking to learning how to Win with a roster full of young unproven players.
    This post was made, after someone said there is internal cap, which prevents Spurs from spending, but they still can win with smaller payroll, which I do not agree, and examples showed, eventually you need to spend, a lot on superstars.

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    This post was made, after someone said there is internal cap, which prevents Spurs from spending, but they still can win with smaller payroll, which I do not agree, and examples showed, eventually you need to spend, a lot on superstars.
    I made the post about the Spurs being on an internal cap... but I think it's a short term internal cap (like, last year and this year). Spurs will of course need to spend eventually.

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    Now that Houston has FVV, we have the worst starting PG in the league. I don’t know why everyone on Spurstalk just seems content with that. I guess nobody here remembers the Avery Johnson days. They were dark times. The dude would just get destroyed by every WC point guard. KJ, Tim, Jason, Gary, John, even Kenny would all destroy the bum. and yet it was said we lost bc Robinson was “soft”

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    Now that Houston has FVV, we have the worst starting PG in the league. I don’t know why everyone on Spurstalk just seems content with that. I guess nobody here remembers the Avery Johnson days. They were dark times. The dude would just get destroyed by every WC point guard. KJ, Tim, Jason, Gary, John, even Kenny would all destroy the bum. and yet it was said we lost bc Robinson was “soft”
    Good to know. We'll mark this down: get a PG in the future.

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    Now that Houston has FVV, we have the worst starting PG in the league. I don’t know why everyone on Spurstalk just seems content with that. I guess nobody here remembers the Avery Johnson days. They were dark times. The dude would just get destroyed by every WC point guard. KJ, Tim, Jason, Gary, John, even Kenny would all destroy the bum. and yet it was said we lost bc Robinson was “soft”
    TBF, he did hit the series clenching shot to win it all in '99.

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    Now that Houston has FVV, we have the worst starting PG in the league. I don’t know why everyone on Spurstalk just seems content with that. I guess nobody here remembers the Avery Johnson days. They were dark times. The dude would just get destroyed by every WC point guard. KJ, Tim, Jason, Gary, John, even Kenny would all destroy the bum. and yet it was said we lost bc Robinson was “soft”
    You're talking about NBA Champion starting PG, Avery Johnson? Number-hanging-in-the-rafters Avery Johnson? Fake-behind-the-back-pass-layup Avery Johnson? THE LIL GENERAL?

    Tre may be the worst starting PG in the league... but he's OUR worst starting PG in the league. Not like there are a ton of options out there. Even the options I liked/like (Reaves, Herro) aren't true PGs. We'll be okay.

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    Now that Houston has FVV, we have the worst starting PG in the league. I don’t know why everyone on Spurstalk just seems content with that. I guess nobody here remembers the Avery Johnson days. They were dark times. The dude would just get destroyed by every WC point guard. KJ, Tim, Jason, Gary, John, even Kenny would all destroy the bum. and yet it was said we lost bc Robinson was “soft”
    I'm pretty sure no one is content and recognize that we have a glaring need.

    We just need someone good at that position, we don't need a CP3 player pounding the ball into the ground for 20 seconds. Hopefully Branham can continue to improve.

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    I'm pretty sure no one is content and recognize that we have a glaring need.

    We just need someone good at that position, we don't need a CP3 player pounding the ball into the ground for 20 seconds. Hopefully Branham can continue to improve.
    Yeah, this mania for some 'elite' point guard is overblown. We'll need to upgrade our starting PG position, and I don't know who or how that happens, but it's not an insane need just yet.

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    2024 draft even if it may be weaker overall is supposed to have a good amount of PG prospects, Collier at USC, Wagner at Kentucky being consistently top 10 in mock drafts.

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    You're talking about NBA Champion starting PG, Avery Johnson? Number-hanging-in-the-rafters Avery Johnson? Fake-behind-the-back-pass-layup Avery Johnson? THE LIL GENERAL?

    Tre may be the worst starting PG in the league... but he's OUR worst starting PG in the league. Not like there are a ton of options out there. Even the options I liked/like (Reaves, Herro) aren't true PGs. We'll be okay.
    Yeah that’s the one. I hated him as a Spurs fan. The dude just got roasted by everybody. Idgaf that his number is up in the banners, he sucked. I do like him hitting the game winner in 99. But if he wasn’t so ty I feel like Robinson would’ve rang before Duncan came along.

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    Good to know. We'll mark this down: get a PG in the future.
    I’m glad to see you’re in team Lillard

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    Yeah that’s the one. I hated him as a Spurs fan. The dude just got roasted by everybody. Idgaf that his number is up in the banners, he sucked. I do like him hitting the game winner in 99. But if he wasn’t so ty I feel like Robinson would’ve rang before Duncan came along.
    I mean, he was no Vinnie Del Negro, but he was alright.

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    TBF, he did hit the series clenching shot to win it all in '99.
    oh wow, i never knew that

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    I mean, he was no Vinnie Del Negro, but he was alright.
    Horrible basketball player but he got every woman in SA so there is that

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    oh wow, i never knew that
    Aren't you just itching to be an ass.

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    Aren't you just itching to be an ass.
    thats my shtick. dont take it personally

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    thats my shtick. dont take it personally
    Fair enough.

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    Yeah that’s the one. I hated him as a Spurs fan. The dude just got roasted by everybody. Idgaf that his number is up in the banners, he sucked. I do like him hitting the game winner in 99. But if he wasn’t so ty I feel like Robinson would’ve rang before Duncan came along.
    You somehow don't remember Vinny Del Negro or Lloyd Daniels, Chris Whitney, the corpse of Sleepy Floyd.

    Your basketball takes are...interesting.

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    Spurs gonna get Dom Barlow on a steal 4/10 contract like Bassey's... and still be under the floor.

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