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    Free agent Max Strus has agreed on a four-year, $63M sign-and-trade with the Cleveland Cavaliers, agent Mark Bartelstein of @PrioritySports tells ESPN. In three-team deal, Heat get a second-round pick and Spurs acquire Cedi Osman, Lamar Stevens and a second-rounder.

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    Cedi Osman and Lamar Stevens and a 2nd rounder to the spurs!

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    Detroit has a lot of pg depth now, another move coming up?

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    Breaking: Trail Blazers star Damian Lillard has requested a trade out of Portland, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The Miami Heat and Brooklyn Nets are among leading suitors for one of the NBA’s 75 Greatest Players ever.

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    They just gave 150 million to Jerami ing Grant.

    What a trainwreck. They better start praying Scoot is the next Russ/Rose.

    PATFO is far from perfect, but looking at how clueless most of the league is, we're lucky to have them.

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    one of the NBA’s 75 Greatest Players ever.
    Lol no.

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    Knicks are finalizing trade to send F Obi Toppin to the Pacers for two future second-round picks, sources tell ESPN. Deal gives Toppin an opportunity to play a more significant role in Indiana and stacks up more draft assets for New York. Deal can’t be completed until Thursday.

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    Knicks are finalizing trade to send F Obi Toppin to the Pacers for two future second-round picks, sources tell ESPN. Deal gives Toppin an opportunity to play a more significant role in Indiana and stacks up more draft assets for New York. Deal can’t be completed until Thursday.
    Obi Toppin is locked into a top 10 pick's salary scale, but I've seen him as a promising bench big, springy and activ if he hasn't fully taken off. But this is the sort of deal we may be seeing down the line when we're out of other teams' first round picks and our own picks are in the late 20s. This is where our SRPs will become valuable to add talent.

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    Hey guys, an idea here: with Dame going to Miami almost a certainty, it seems likely that Lowry will be included for salary matching purposes. However, that doesn't seem to be a great match for Portland since they already have Scoot and Simmons, and maybe they'd want to seize the opportunity to shed a bit of salary. So maybe the Spurs could bet themselves involved here by taking Lowry and sending Portland, say, Graham and Birch or something like that. Portland saves money for a player they don't have much use for, and the Spurs get a vet PG by adding just 10M to their already guaranteed payroll. I thought about adding an extra second rounder, but I don't think Brian Wright wants to let go of his PRECIOUSSSS......

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    Smart that the Knicks are now just trading away their FRPs rather than using them on guys who won’t get a 2nd contract.

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    Hey guys, an idea here: with Dame going to Miami almost a certainty, it seems likely that Lowry will be included for salary matching purposes. However, that doesn't seem to be a great match for Portland since they already have Scoot and Simmons, and maybe they'd want to seize the opportunity to shed a bit of salary. So maybe the Spurs could bet themselves involved here by taking Lowry and sending Portland, say, Graham and Birch or something like that. Portland saves money for a player they don't have much use for, and the Spurs get a vet PG by adding just 10M to their already guaranteed payroll. I thought about adding an extra second rounder, but I don't think Brian Wright wants to let go of his PRECIOUSSSS......
    The seems like how we end up participating, but wouldn’t we get some draft capital coming our way for taking this on and facilitating? Or what if Miami included Jacquez to us for taking Lowry?

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    Hey guys, an idea here: with Dame going to Miami almost a certainty, it seems likely that Lowry will be included for salary matching purposes. However, that doesn't seem to be a great match for Portland since they already have Scoot and Simmons, and maybe they'd want to seize the opportunity to shed a bit of salary. So maybe the Spurs could bet themselves involved here by taking Lowry and sending Portland, say, Graham and Birch or something like that. Portland saves money for a player they don't have much use for, and the Spurs get a vet PG by adding just 10M to their already guaranteed payroll. I thought about adding an extra second rounder, but I don't think Brian Wright wants to let go of his PRECIOUSSSS......
    I've been sort of interested in Lowry since the start. It's a big chunk of money, but if he's willing to play for the Spurs and for his next contract somewhere, it's not a bad idea. I would want a first round pick for helping though. Otherwise I'd just stay out.

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    The seems like how we end up participating, but wouldn’t we get some draft capital coming our way for taking this on and facilitating? Or what if Miami included Jacquez to us for taking Lowry?
    I wouldn't call this "facilitating" as they can get it done without us, plus Portland will dry out every bit of draft capital Miami has and whatever compensation remains would have to come from Portland. In the end I suppose it comes down to what does Portland prefer, if they want Lowry of the capspace. If it's the latter, simply absorbing him might do, it's more like taking advantage of a mutually beneficial opportunity for both Portland and the Spurs (kind of a side deal, tbh).
    Also, I hadn't really thought about it, but if Portland gets a hold of Jaquez simply as an asset but they're not super high on him, I'd love to get him by offering a few second rounders if possible. He's the guy I wanted at 33 all along.

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    I've been sort of interested in Lowry since the start. It's a big chunk of money, but if he's willing to play for the Spurs and for his next contract somewhere, it's not a bad idea. I would want a first round pick for helping though. Otherwise I'd just stay out.
    In my proposed deal Portland would be shedding about 10M (roughly Lowry 29M vs Graham 12M & Birch 7M), the going rate for that cap space in this market is just a 2nd (we just witnessed it ourselves). Plus Lowry is useful, he's not your regular dump. I think it'd be too greedy to expect to come out with both Lowry AND a first round pick in this deal.

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    Lowry, as an expiring, might be flippable for Portland to get another actual asset for a team wanting to dump salary.

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    I wouldn't call this "facilitating" as they can get it done without us, plus Portland will dry out every bit of draft capital Miami has and whatever compensation remains would have to come from Portland. In the end I suppose it comes down to what does Portland prefer, if they want Lowry of the capspace. If it's the latter, simply absorbing him might do, it's more like taking advantage of a mutually beneficial opportunity for both Portland and the Spurs (kind of a side deal, tbh).
    Also, I hadn't really thought about it, but if Portland gets a hold of Jaquez simply as an asset but they're not super high on him, I'd love to get him by offering a few second rounders if possible. He's the guy I wanted at 33 all along.
    But if Portland prefers the cap space over Lowry… then we are kind of facilitating, aren’t we? The important factor here being Lowry’s $30M. Someone is going to have to pay it, and even if the Spurs think Lowry is the perfect PG for this upcoming season, they certainly don’t want to pay him $30M… thus the need for some capital coming our way.

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    But if Portland prefers the cap space over Lowry… then we are kind of facilitating, aren’t we? The important factor here being Lowry’s $30M. Someone is going to have to pay it, and even if the Spurs think Lowry is the perfect PG for this upcoming season, they certainly don’t want to pay him $30M… thus the need for some capital coming our way.
    It depends on how much salary you take in, the more reasonable scenario is that they also take an expiring back and then it isn't the full 29M but the difference that they're moving out. In the scenario I laid out, they were taking Graham and Birch from us, so the difference came down to about 10M which should be about 1 2nd rounder. But if it were the full 29M some team is absorbing, then yes, that'd call for something more substantial.

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    Jacquez signed his rookie deal with the Heat so he cannot be traded for 30 days. He won’t be involved in any deal soon.

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    Spurs should trade Cedi & Berch for Fournier. 2 players for one. If they lock up Barlow they’ll likely have to just eat Berch’s deal anyway, so might as well get a player that could have value at the deadline.

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    Cedi should have some value at the deadline for contenders with slim benches, which are basically all of them

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    Spurs should trade Cedi & Berch for Fournier. 2 players for one. If they lock up Barlow they’ll likely have to just eat Berch’s deal anyway, so might as well get a player that could have value at the deadline.
    Add IQ in the deal and the Spurs have their starting PG.

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    Spurs notable expiring contracts:

    McDermott - 13.75
    Graham* - 12.1
    Bullock - 10.5
    Birch - 7.0
    Osman - 6.7

    *Graham also has 2.9 guaranteed in 24/25. Zollins is also expiring at 7.7 but cant really see him being traded. an extension seems a lot more likely imo

    not including Zollins, thats just over 50 mil

    given the roster right now though, at least 2 guys have to get cut to get the roster down to 15. lamar stevens seems to be a likely one. otherwise... would guess Birch

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    Spurs notable expiring contracts:

    McDermott - 13.75
    Graham* - 12.1
    Bullock - 10.5
    Birch - 7.0
    Osman - 6.7

    *Graham also has 2.9 guaranteed in 24/25. Zollins is also expiring at 7.7 but cant really see him being traded. an extension seems a lot more likely imo

    not including Zollins, thats just over 50 mil

    given the roster right now though, at least 2 guys have to get cut to get the roster down to 15. lamar stevens seems to be a likely one. otherwise... would guess Birch
    That's a good bit of value in itself and several of those guys can actually provide something for an acquiring team other than the contract.

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    PICKS TRADE: The Memphis Grizzlies are trading three second-round picks to the Phoenix Suns for two first-round pick swaps (2024 and 2030) and Isaiah Todd, sources tell ESPN. The seconds are 2025 via Pels, and Memphis’ 2028 and 2029 picks.

    Woj

    Looks like BW has started a trend

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    PHX traded a swap twice. This is getting weird.

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