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    that's what Woj first reported when the trade was made. Now I have no clue about those Mavs 2nds
    first woj said 24/25/28 to boston, but then he gave an update saying mavs/celtics getting 2 SRPs each

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    2024: worst of NOLA and CHI 2nd rounders owned by Spurs
    2025: Toronto 2nd owned by Spurs
    2028: NOLA 2nd owned by Spurs

    all going to Celtics
    Wow, if that's all the Spurs gave up, that's pretty awesome. The worst of the NOLA and CHI picks adds some protection.

    Best trade Wright's ever made, IMO. Second rounders and a neutral contract for an unprotected first round swap? That's great. Sure, it could amount to nothing -- but to even get a chance at a lottery pick for three second rounders is amazing work.

    I would have thought it was a great trade if the swap was top five protected. To be totally unprotected is almost unbelievable. There's no other trade I can think of that can compare to this.

    If this is Wright's creativity in action, the Spurs are in good hands going forward.

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    Wow, if that's all the Spurs gave up, that's pretty awesome. The worst of the NOLA and CHI picks adds some protection.

    Best trade Wright's ever made, IMO. Second rounders and a neutral contract for an unprotected first round swap? That's great. Sure, it could amount to nothing -- but to even get a chance at a lottery pick for three second rounders is amazing work.

    I would have thought it was a great trade if the swap was top five protected. To be totally unprotected is almost unbelievable. There's no other trade I can think of that can compare to this.

    If this is Wright's creativity in action, the Spurs are in good hands going forward.
    Had Dallas between a rock and a hard place. Doing this trade was the only way to get both Thybulle and Grant Williams, since they were both restricted FAs, and they needed to trade for one.

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    Had Dallas between a rock and a hard place. Doing this trade was the only way to get both Thybulle and Grant Williams, since they were both restricted FAs, and they needed to trade for one.
    Thybulle was matched, but yeah.

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    Wow, if that's all the Spurs gave up, that's pretty awesome. The worst of the NOLA and CHI picks adds some protection.

    Best trade Wright's ever made, IMO. Second rounders and a neutral contract for an unprotected first round swap? That's great. Sure, it could amount to nothing -- but to even get a chance at a lottery pick for three second rounders is amazing work.

    I would have thought it was a great trade if the swap was top five protected. To be totally unprotected is almost unbelievable. There's no other trade I can think of that can compare to this.

    If this is Wright's creativity in action, the Spurs are in good hands going forward.
    i still dont know where drunkford is getting those details from. woj initially rerported 24/25/28 to boston, then updated saying each of boston/dallas is getting 2. at no point do i recall them reporting the specific SRPs, or the "least favorable of" details for any of them

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    These second rounders keep proving their value. Should be the same next deadline, just gonna catch a team at the right time like Dallas this week. And guess what? Spurs have a boatload of SRPs.

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    i still dont know where drunkford is getting those details from. woj initially rerported 24/25/28 to boston, then updated saying each of boston/dallas is getting 2. at no point do i recall them reporting the specific SRPs, or the "least favorable of" details for any of them
    he did, then deleted the tweet

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    Wow, if that's all the Spurs gave up, that's pretty awesome. The worst of the NOLA and CHI picks adds some protection.
    The Spurs don't even have that pick. They only have the best pick, which they got from NOLA in the Richardson deal, I believe. The actual details definitely still need to get cleaned up.

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    I don't remember if I posted this, but if I had to guess:

    Dallas is giving their 2030 unprotected second to Boston and offering 2030 first-round swap rights to the Spurs to go along with Bullock.

    The Spurs are giving two ty-to-meh seconds to Dallas, like the worst of their 2025 seconds and the worst of their 2028 seconds. They're also sending a decent second to Boston, like the NOP/CHI 2024 second.

    Boston is trading Williams.

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    Wow, if that's all the Spurs gave up, that's pretty awesome. The worst of the NOLA and CHI picks adds some protection.

    Best trade Wright's ever made, IMO. Second rounders and a neutral contract for an unprotected first round swap? That's great. Sure, it could amount to nothing -- but to even get a chance at a lottery pick for three second rounders is amazing work.

    I would have thought it was a great trade if the swap was top five protected. To be totally unprotected is almost unbelievable. There's no other trade I can think of that can compare to this.

    If this is Wright's creativity in action, the Spurs are in good hands going forward.
    Someone else made the great observation earlier, the Spurs now have pick swaps in 2026, 2028 (Top 1 protected) and 2030 - which makes their FRPs in those years all the more valuable. If the Spurs find the star they want to go all-in for (Giannis, Luka, etc), then a package of hose 3 picks is going to be unmatched in terms of value because of the swaps that go with them.

    Masterclass by Wright.

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    2024: worst of NOLA and CHI 2nd rounders owned by Spurs
    2025: Toronto 2nd owned by Spurs
    2028: NOLA 2nd owned by Spurs

    all going to Celtics
    Source?

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    This is old/stale info from WOJ days ago. I don’t think we fully know yet.

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    Someone else made the great observation earlier, the Spurs now have pick swaps in 2026, 2028 (Top 1 protected) and 2030 - which makes their FRPs in those years all the more valuable. If the Spurs find the star they want to go all-in for (Giannis, Luka, etc), then a package of hose 3 picks is going to be unmatched in terms of value because of the swaps that go with them.

    Masterclass by Wright.
    Its a good position to be in. Only year we don’t have an additional bite/enhancement in the first round is 2029.

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    Wow, if that's all the Spurs gave up, that's pretty awesome. The worst of the NOLA and CHI picks adds some protection.

    Best trade Wright's ever made, IMO. Second rounders and a neutral contract for an unprotected first round swap? That's great. Sure, it could amount to nothing -- but to even get a chance at a lottery pick for three second rounders is amazing work.

    I would have thought it was a great trade if the swap was top five protected. To be totally unprotected is almost unbelievable. There's no other trade I can think of that can compare to this.

    If this is Wright's creativity in action, the Spurs are in good hands going forward.
    HOLY look what MEM just did I wish we could have done this damnnnnnn


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    HOLY look what MEM just did I wish we could have done this damnnnnnn

    Both the 2024 and 2030 Swaps are the lesser of the PHX/WAS pick - so it's a little less impressive than what Brian Wright did yesterday, but it would be cool if we could line a few more of these up.

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    Except the 2024 FRP swap is worthless. PHX will be better than them, and even if not both figure to be in playoff contention. The 2030 however has value for sure.

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    the 2024 swap is completely worthless tbh

    2030 might be something. KD/Beal gone or TOSB by then. booker in mid 30's, and phoenix coming off a string of years with no young talent infusion

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    This is old/stale info from WOJ days ago. I don’t think we fully know yet.
    I think Woj just put out the years but not the specific teams, right? If so, where did those specifics on the picks come from?

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    I think Woj just put out the years but not the specific teams, right? If so, where did those specifics on the picks come from?
    he did than deleted the tweet as some picks were going to the Mavs etc., but those were the Spurs second rounders specifically included in the deal

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    Both the 2024 and 2030 Swaps are the lesser of the PHX/WAS pick - so it's a little less impressive than what Brian Wright did yesterday, but it would be cool if we could line a few more of these up.
    2 swaps unprotected for 3 2nds is great no matter how you slice it lol

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    2 swaps unprotected for 3 2nds is great no matter how you slice it lol
    They’re the short end of the stick, the worst of the Wiz and PHO swaps that PHO holds in both cases. It only pays off if they’re both really bad, and in the lottery. We only need one team to be bad in all three swaps we hold.

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    They’re the short end of the stick, the worst of the Wiz and PHO swaps that PHO holds in both cases. It only pays off if they’re both really bad, and in the lottery. We only need one team to be bad in all three swaps we hold.
    Yep, these only have value if MEM’s pick is the worst of the three. Even then, they’d only jump up to the second most valuable pick, limiting both the likelihood of this paying off and the value if it does. I much prefer what we got from Dallas

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    Swaps don't have the value people are fantasizing they do. They're nice and can obviously hit every once in a while. But they're getting blown up because that's all teams have now. Like for example, them being unprotected is much more common than them being protected. Harping on "unprotected swaps" is like harping on unprotected seconds. Sure you can protect them, but the default is that they are free and clear. The Spurs made a shrewd move, especially if it's just those redundant seconds. Memphis made a meh move that will probably look stupid sooner than later.

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    Swaps don't have the value people are fantasizing they do. They're nice and can obviously hit every once in a while. But they're getting blown up because that's all teams have now. Like for example, them being unprotected is much more common than them being protected. Harping on "unprotected swaps" is like harping on unprotected seconds. Sure you can protect them, but the default is that they are free and clear. The Spurs made a shrewd move, especially if it's just those redundant seconds. Memphis made a meh move that will probably look stupid sooner than later.
    Maybe - again, I think its savvy like my someone with money buying a few lotto tickets for fun. You don’t want to rely on them to make rent but if you are just having some fun it could pay off with little downside.

    I know you are a bird in the hand type guy so you value the 2nds because they are for sure; but teams are having to give up things they probably rather would not out of pure need and I think theres value right now in the 2nds for swaps things. But that’s just me.

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    They’re the short end of the stick, the worst of the Wiz and PHO swaps that PHO holds in both cases. It only pays off if they’re both really bad, and in the lottery. We only need one team to be bad in all three swaps we hold.
    Sure - but they only took on like 1.5m vs 10M as well and WAS sucks pretty bad all the time and KD/Beal aren’t lasting until 2030 no way and PHX has like no picks either for when they are bad.

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