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The fit with Trae is still iffy tbh. Hiring Snyder last year will have probably a bigger negative impact on the quality of those unprotected picks than Dejounte sticking around IMO.
Keeping Dejounte on a team friendly deal vs. drafting a franchise altering player in Wemby? I'm going to have to disagree on that one.
The fit with Trae is still iffy tbh. Hiring Snyder last year will have probably a bigger negative impact on the quality of those unprotected picks than Dejounte sticking around IMO.
Well, Houston no longer has that money to spend on dejounte.Maybe. But we also just saw Fred VanVleet get 40mil+ a year
The is Siakam gonna add to that core other than eternal mediocrity?
Hawks are in a ty ass place, tbh. I would say blow it up but they gave away their picks. This is testament as to how bad management sets you back for years and it all started when trading down instead of taking Luka for themselves.
Young is such a flawed star-- smallish guard who can't defend and shoots lots of threes at a below average percentage. Once you take Dejounte and move him to SG, you negate his natural size advantage at PG, lessening his defensive presence... seems like such an exercise in futility to max out Trae in hopes of someday winning a championship. The odds against that happening are astronomical.
they should send Trae to Toronto tbh. pair OG with DeJounte in the backcourt. match made in heaven on both ends. and they could probably rip additional assets from toronto while they're at it.The is Siakam gonna add to that core other than eternal mediocrity?
Hawks are in a ty ass place, tbh. I would say blow it up but they gave away their picks. This is testament as to how bad management sets you back for years and it all started when trading down instead of taking Luka for themselves.
Great points although I wonder whether championship is the ultimate goal for ATL.
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Have to ask: does this contract make DJM more or less tradeable? 4/120 seems below market for DJM in this NBA Economy... I think this contracts makes him more tradeable for the Hawks if the need to go that route.
how would it make him less tradeable?
Less. He literally can't be traded until January at this point. After that, it allows him to still be tradeable rather than having expired. So maybe more eventually?
I'm sure we could get him back for Charlotte's pick...a couple unprotected first and a pick swap lol
You don’t dare trade a player after he signs a team-friendly or no one will ever want to play for you ever again.
Yeah, I was thinking more long-term rather than for an immediate trade. I do think being locked up to what I would consider a slightly below market deal increases his trade value to the Hawks
If a team perceived his contract being an overpay, it would make him less tradeable. For example, if Tyler Herro were on a 4/56 deal, he would be significantly more tradeable than on his 4/120 deal.
dont think anybody will see murray's deal is an overpay. its a bargain. he signed this specifically to be team friendly
Agree with your statement but the good part for the Spurs is that there’s still a lot of time between now and those picks conveying.
2025, 2026 (swap), 2027 are the picks.
Still have 23-24 season. If the Hawks flame out in the playin again then Tre may be in a Dame Lillard type situation this time bext year.
Then there’s the 24-25 season which is the first season that impacts those picks. Then another two seasons after that for things to go south for the Hawks.
Ya’ll talk about DJ but he took money off the table to be there. That being said that is mostly a fair contract for both sides.
Just because he took 4/$120 million in the ATL, it doesn’t mean he would have taken that in SA. In fact, I would argue that he would have wanted the max in SA had he been here.
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It's more complicated than that though. He couldn't have extended while he was on the Spurs because under the old CBA the max extension would have been at 120% of his last year's salary. If he ever wanted a max he would have had to wait until 2025 and becoming a FA. Now, with the new CBA allowing an extension starting from 140% it was more doable and he got that. Good for him, but it's not comparable to his options while he was a Spurs player.
good move for Atlanta ... now get rid of that useless midget Tre Young
it was a lottery, 14% chance
sad to see people already talking like this was just the genius plan all along,
why didn't any of the other teams simply get the third worst record and draft Wemby?
New CBA made this possible.
Seems like a fair deal that was impossible under old CBA.
It’s also possible that being the clear #2 guy on a team (and not repeating as an All-Star) helped DJM gain some perspective.
Either way I’m genuinely happy for Dejounte. He was not greedy, took generational money now and can sleep well with no concerns about injuries (which he’s had) or performance.
What’s a story! 29th pick in San Antonio to well over 120M (including his current deal). Just amazing
Honestly I’m salty about it tbh
always liked Murray. Trading him obviously made sense and panned out in the best way imaginable. But seeing a player i liked make team friendly moves like this stings. And hurts those draft picks we’re getting from them
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