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    They can't accept Dame's bloated contract with Herro, or any replacement salary for Herro on the books. Portland may be talked into taking ending contracts in lieu of Herro, but that's the only way it works.
    It’s not just about MIA - POR or other teams may be ok taking on expirings vs MIA for example like you said with POR

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    Spurs need a center imo. So mentally I’m preparing for at least 3 of these 4 guys not being on roster: Cedi, Stevens, Khem, Bullock
    Victor

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    Doesn't want that job. Said so.

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    True but spurs also have Khem they can trade or cut - lots of options there lol. Will be interesting to see if any other trades happen that take care of this too.
    I think both Birch and Stevens will be cut for sure. The 15th spot will be either Bullock or Osman.

    I may have one player more than you on Spurs roster, it's because I'm counting Cissoko in the 15 players roster. Cissoko is under contract with Baskonia and has a buyout. He can't be signed to a two-way contract and there are already 2 sources that said Spurs have offered him a multiyear guaranteed contract.

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    I think both Birch and Stevens will be cut for sure. The 15th spot will be either Bullock or Osman.

    I may have one player more than you on Spurs roster, it's because I'm counting Cissoko in the 15 players roster. Cissoko is under contract with Baskonia and has a buyout. He can't be signed to a two-way contract and there are already 2 sources that said Spurs have offered him a multiyear guaranteed contract.
    Thats a good point on Sidy…Im also assuming that Spurs trade for or sign another Center too, So I wouldn’t be surprised to see both Cedi and Bullock gone (if theres not a trade is unbalanced)

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    I think both Birch and Stevens will be cut for sure. The 15th spot will be either Bullock or Osman.

    I may have one player more than you on Spurs roster, it's because I'm counting Cissoko in the 15 players roster. Cissoko is under contract with Baskonia and has a buyout. He can't be signed to a two-way contract and there are already 2 sources that said Spurs have offered him a multiyear guaranteed contract.
    Could they theoretically sign him to a training camp deal with the intention of waiving him and then putting him on a two-way? I feel like that would give some roster flexibility if it was possible since he clearly isn’t anywhere ready to play regular NBA minutes

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    Would agree if it wasn’t for the reports about the spurs being interested before this year
    All the more reason for him to make it clear that he wants to play here. Now that I've said that it occurs to me that he actually has direct access to the team.

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    Is there any chance they ask Sidy to return to Spain under his current contract for one more year?

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    Agree with the sentiment that the Spurs need (and will find a way to get) another center. Assuming it's true that they'd really like to avoid having Victor play much at the 5 this year, it's hard to imagine that they'd feel comfortable with a center rotation of Collins/Bassey/Mamu. Even if you want to argue that's a good enough rotation (depends on how you view Bassey/Mamu), the injury history and lack of experience makes it a somewhat scary proposition.

    Guess it's possible Birch sticks around but highly doubt it. Barlow has looked good in SL, but again, hardly any NBA experience there. Maybe the Spurs are fine with having a super young group of centers and just seeing who can carve out a legitimate role.

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    Could they theoretically sign him to a training camp deal with the intention of waiving him and then putting him on a two-way?
    They can't do that. If Spurs pay his buyout, he can't be signed to a two way contract for a year.

    You can always imagine some weird scenario where Spurs gave him a guaranteed contract and Cissoko paid his buyout himself with his salary but it might not even be legal since it's using loophole in the CBA. There is also the risk of him being claimed from waivers if he is waived.

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    Agree with the sentiment that the Spurs need (and will find a way to get) another center. Assuming it's true that they'd really like to avoid having Victor play much at the 5 this year, it's hard to imagine that they'd feel comfortable with a center rotation of Collins/Bassey/Mamu. Even if you want to argue that's a good enough rotation (depends on how you view Bassey/Mamu), the injury history and lack of experience makes it a somewhat scary proposition.

    Guess it's possible Birch sticks around but highly doubt it. Barlow has looked good in SL, but again, hardly any NBA experience there. Maybe the Spurs are fine with having a super young group of centers and just seeing who can carve out a legitimate role.
    Barlow is going to play at center.

    Bringing in another center would mean that Bassey and Barlow get no minutes to develop.

    There's literally no point in bringing in another generic center like Plumlee because Spurs don't have the pressure to win this season. Bassey and Barlow have shown a lot of promise and deserve a season with solid minutes to get evaluated properly.
    If there were any changes at center, I'd upgrade Collins, but bringing in veteran backup serves no purpose.

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    Doesn't want that job. Said so.
    he plays and acts as a center (post-up, screener on p&r and p&p)
    you can even call him a point guard, he will still remain a center and will play in linups as the only bigman on the floor

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    he plays and acts as a center (post-up, screener on p&r and p&p)
    you can even call him a point guard, he will still remain a center and will play in linups as the only bigman on the floor
    You and DAFFY86 need to get together and go bowling. Guards post up. Wings set screens.

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    You and DAFFY86 need to get together and go bowling. Guards post up. Wings set screens.
    guards are also used as a rimprotector on defense, right?

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    I think both Birch and Stevens will be cut for sure. The 15th spot will be either Bullock or Osman.

    I may have one player more than you on Spurs roster, it's because I'm counting Cissoko in the 15 players roster. Cissoko is under contract with Baskonia and has a buyout. He can't be signed to a two-way contract and there are already 2 sources that said Spurs have offered him a multiyear guaranteed contract.
    How he have a contract with Baskonia if he played g league last season?

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    guards are also used as a rimprotector on defense, right?
    Forwards are. One of the fiercest shot blockers of the last 10-15 years was OKC's Serge Ibaka. And before you try, Kendrick Perkins was their C.

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    Tbh, this trade looks more meh now due how awesome the Bullock trade was. You have to consider Osman as a long-term member of the team for it to be even close.

    Osman does have a really good locker room reputation. First player to arrive at practice, kind to everyone, befriends the janitors type guy

    When I took a closer look at his stats, what stood out is he's more of a volume three-point shooter than I thought. He's not quite at Graham's level but he shoots threes more of often than McDermott, Vassell and Keldon. A nice guy who just turned 28 who shoots a lot of threes? Sounds like a pretty good player to keep around Wemby for the next four or five years, tbh.

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    When we get a consolidation trade? Three of our bottom feeders for 4 second round picks pls! WE NEED MOR@PIKS!!!

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    no, just your dumb shtick of posting a clown pic every time someone disagrees with you

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    Tbh, this trade looks more meh now due how awesome the Bullock trade was. You have to consider Osman as a long-term member of the team for it to be even close.
    Yup, I wonder if it won't keep us from taking advantage of bigger opportunities (for a measly 2nd rounder), but I guess we could pay someone else to dump him (or someone with the necessary salary) if it comes down to that.

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    The Spurs very well might see Osman as a net positive player they want to keep, at least more so than Bullock. That or they agreed to the Osman trade first and didn't expect the Mavs to offer an unprotected swap with Bullock.

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    Yup, I wonder if it won't keep us from taking advantage of bigger opportunities (for a measly 2nd rounder), but I guess we could pay someone else to dump him (or someone with the necessary salary) if it comes down to that.
    We needed the salaries to get to the 'floor', even with the follow on Bullock trade.

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    The Spurs very well might see Osman as a net positive player they want to keep, at least more so than Bullock. That or they agreed to the Osman trade first and didn't expect the Mavs to offer an unprotected swap with Bullock.
    I think they see Osman as a keeper. They've been chasing him for years apparently. They see him as a Spurs kind of player. I would be really surprised if he isn't on the roster starting the season, even not in the rotation would be a surprise to me. Bullock I think might be used when we help out on some future trade (lillard or harden) coming up is my guess.

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