After seeing Wemby in action against NBA athleticism, I like how Tre Jones fits next to him. You don't really need an awesome playmaker next to Wemby because he can get open and create his own plays. You just need someone who will pass him the ball in the right spots. Jones can't shoot and isn't much of a playmaker but he's a very good passer in transition and I'm confident he can hit Wemby in halfcourt sets when he needs to ball.
Jones, Vassell, KJ, Sochan and Zollins are all at least decent passers. KJ is probably the worst of the bunch but his issue is mostly that he's not good when passing on the move. Jones passing to Wemby in transition will be nice. Sochan has the most passing potential on the team. Vassell's not a dynamic passer but he sees the floor. , Zollins' high-low passing will be really helpful.
Wait for a solid point guard to be available for a reasonable price?
All of you people who want a point guard just keep talking about it and yet noone ever mentions any realistic solutions.
Yeah, I want Garland, he'd be perfect for the Spurs and I'd gladly give up Keldon and 3 FRPs for him. But it's a pipe dream and Cavs will never do it.
Same goes for Lillard who doesn't want to waste what's left of his prime on a rebuilding team.
Please enlighten us with at least a couple of realistic names.
Good stuff, Dejounte. I agree with what you're getting at.
Wesley can be frustrating to watch but the kid entered the NBA about as raw as any guard in recent memory. He's learning and, yes, he has to push the envelope to be impactful. He can't be Tre Jones out there and make it in the NBA because he'll never be a high feel type of player. Wesley has to be a bolt of unpredictable energy -- and he's getting there. It feels like his progression is slow sometimes but I like how he's trending, big picture-wise.
There’s waiting for the sake of waiting (which you seem to imply in this post). That’s obviously a mistake and a waste of time.
Then there’s waiting for the right opportunity. I admit I wanted a few PG’s in the draft. For whatever reason, PATFO didn’t trade up for any of them. Perhaps they were too expensive? Either way, we couldn’t get one. Then there was Free Agency. None of the free agent PGs would have been worth it, IMO. Maybe Reaves, but he was never leaving LA. Trade for Patty maybe? Take a flyer on John Wall or Derrick Rose before he signed?
Barring those, our only option now seems to be to wait for better opportunities that won’t cost too much asset-wise.
Yes, we need to upgrade our PG situation. It’s obvious. But the one we get needs to at least be a clear-cut upgrade over what we already have at a price the FO is willing to pay for. That probably means we have to either get one via Trade, from a team with a lot point guards (Cle? Orlando?) or we wait for next year’s draft.
The way he fills the arena, and the new bandwagon followers who are mesmerized by his sheer height alone. It’s absolutely certain he will be. Even Zaza almost got voted by Dubs bandwagon.
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I don’t know if any great prospect has ever been ready right out the gate. Not even Lebron. So why sacrifice young players and picks to take a crazy chance? The statistics show that it will take a few years and experience. Instead you can be patient, keep your other prospects and let them grow together or get a better player/fit than Damn down the road.
Blake seems like a sprinter playing basketball. He needs to overcome his speed getting him out of control. There is still time for him to make significant progress, so I am excited to see him mature.
No to joining the circus.
Nope. He can move WITH THE BALL fast, like elite fast. That's not an every day NBA skill.
I hear Patty Mills is possibly available, has a trade friendly contract and is somewhat familiar with the spurs coaching staff and methods.
So reports are they we are going after herro and one of several teams willing to give up a first for him. Some people think he can make the transition to point guard if given the time to adapt.
If there are reports, post links to them.
Seconded.
https://twitter.com/esidery/status/1678454873329737751
This is the closest to that I've read, but saying we've "been linked to"Herro it's not the same as saying we're "going after" Herro.There are multiple teams interested in trading a first-round pick for Tyler Herro to help facilitate Damian Lillard ending up on the Heat, per @ShamsCharania on @PatMcAfeeShow
The Nets and Spurs have previously been linked to Herro in potential trade discussions.
If the Spurs wanted Herro, the POR-MIA deal would be close to done with "elements to be hashed out." Instead we're getting "this deal may take a long time."
Herro has already shown he cannot play point guard in Miami.
I don't see the Spurs interested. He needs seventeen shots a game and I don't see the Spurs giving him those at the expense of players they already have.
If tre isn’t a shooter or a playmaker then why is he our starter and what does he bring to the table to justify us not seeking an upgrade?
Tank starter.
He's a table setter. There's value to someone who can get the offense into the right set and get the ball to the right person - recognizing a mismatch or correctly feeding the post or making the pass that leads to the pass that gets a bucket. He doesn't have to be Chris Paul to be an effective point guard. There are other duties. If he could knock down an open shot, that would be helpful too.
agreed. Which is why I think we need to bring in a good point guard this year. They should’ve sacrificed those picks to bring in Anthony Black.
After two SL games, I'm as excited as ever for Wemby mania and our future. With that said, it has firmly planted me in the camp of "let's take this slow" as opposed to "add pieces now". I'm expecting us to be drafting somewhere around #6-8 next summer.
Do think we should try to add a PG who will at least be able to aid in the development of the team rather than be a hinderance. Lowry fits the bill if he comes with draft compensation, though Miami will have none left to give if they are getting Dame.
If Wemby is An All star from season one we should have a good point guard from season one. But we’ll see.
You need one 4 things and Tre can do zero of them.
Theres the I’m really fast and athletic and im gonna blow past you with my speed and athleticism like Westbrook or Ja. They eventually turned into decent passers. They are score first and look for others third.
Theres the deceptively quick guys who use there smarts and know how to get to places on the floor. They set others up and can score when they are called upon. They are actual threats with the ball in their hands though and not somebody you can just leave open. Like a Mike Conley.
There’s the dribble dribble point guard who always has the ball in his hands and makes every single play. Like Harden of Luka. They are downhill attack point guards who shoot a ton of step back 3s or in the old days long twos. And they have crazy good court vision, but unfortunately it’s underhanded by how much they have the ball and don’t know what to do when they don’t have the ball in their hands.
And lastly there is the im going to control everything point guard. This is the magic Johnson, the Chris Paul, the John Stockton. I’m in charge of the offense. I tell you where to be. If you run the play correctly you will get the pass, if you dive hard, if you set a good screen, if you cut. These types of players are different than the dribble dribble above where they are looking for others to score rather than score.
But unfortunately we have the I’m slower, I can’t shoot, can’t defend, and can’t run an offense in crunch time PG.
The obvious answer was to get Chris Paul for a middling pick this year. He is everything you want for Wemby even at 38. Everybody sees the bad in Chris Paul on this site, but I see him like Larry Brown. An all time great who is a hard ass and demanding, and a complete asshole. And if you have him on your team for over 4 years they turn into a cancer, but for quick short term success, you can’t ask for better
I also really wanted Wallace. I have no idea what he will become in OKC with Shay and Chet and Giddy all having the ball in their hands, but man he was everything this team needed. We could t have beaten the OKC price and I get not trading did him but damn it would’ve been nice to have tried.
How’s Lonzos knee? Lol
Can we also acknowledge that forcing Sochan into playing PG on an extended basis is also not going to cut it?
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