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These are going to come back and bite some of these teams in the ass so hard at some point and I'm here for it.
Phoenix looks like another team that's trying to stockpile seconds in anticipation of being a perennial second apron team.
I would look for Golden State and the Clippers to get on this wagon soon.
These are going to come back and bite some of these teams in the ass so hard at some point and I'm here for it.
I hope we can get in on this with a few more seconds..
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Apparently the swap is for the LESSER of PHX/WAS in both 2024 and 2030... so not quite as juicy as the Swap Brian Wright got us
Logistics question: can a team acquire multiple swaps for the same year?
For example, could the Spurs go and trade for 2030 Swap rights with Detroit and Denver? So they'd have Swap rights with Dallas, Denver and Detroit... and then just exercise the right with the best pick of the 3?
2024 swap from phoenix is basically completely worthless. its basically the lesser of of the 2030 picks. 2030 is so far out its hard to tell what will be what for any of the 3 teams involved. but getting the lesser of 2 picks... the odds that either of them is a great pick is very slim
phoenix probably feels they're not going to really lose anything here anyway. kinda low risk low reward for both teams
I don't see what would prevent it, though I'd imagine a team could only exercise its swap rights once in a given draft.
For example, say the Spurs have unprotected 2030 swap rights with Dallas, Detroit, and Denver, and the draft slots are DET 8, DAL 18, DEN 21, SA 27 (some wishful thinking here).
The Spurs could swap with Detroit directly, but with no restrictions on how many swaps can be used they could swap with Denver, then Dallas, then Detroit. That would still leave the Spurs with the #8 pick but it would shuffle the order of the other teams: DAL 18/DEN 21/DET 27 if the Spurs swap directly with Detroit, or DET 18/DAL 21/DEN 27 if the Spurs go up the chain. 4 of the 6 orderings of those three teams would be possible, and it doesn't make sense to allow the Spurs to dictate that.
In your scenario of DET 8, DAL 18, DEN 21, SA 27, I'd assume that the result would only be SA 8, DAL 18, DEN 21, DET 27. SA would have the right to swap with any one of the picks (obviously you'd choose the highest) but it cannot dictate what happens with any of the others at that point.
Stein reports: The Raptors "are far more inclined to trade Siakam than initially realized, it's increasingly conceivable he could be moved and the Pacers (joining Hawks) have emerged as a legit suitor".
Guessing Hawks offer is Hunter, Capela, Bufkin + draft capital and Pacers offer is Hield, Theis, Nembhard + draft capital.
Wonder if Spurs could be a third team facilitator. I don't want Capela and he's not their preferred C archetype, but he'd be an option. The Mavericks (Hardaway Jr., McGee + draft capital) and maybe Pelicans (Valanciunas + Lewis Jr.), could be suitors, but it wouldn't help them duck the tax.
Get in on Bufkin. Send a 1, 2 SRPs, and eat some salary to get it done
I wonder if this is part of the expanded trade the Mavs are trying to do with the Grant Williams s&t?
Raps aren't burning it down. No reason to trade young, cheap players. They're shopping Siakam because they just lost FVV for nothing, and both Siakam and OG are FAs next summer, and they would probably lose another player for nothing.
Bufkin isn’t a raptor
The Mavs have been rumored to be in on Capela for a while.
would be nice for our Raptors pick. Pick is Top 6 protected so if it lands between 7 and 10 that would be ideal
If they were going to burn things down now would be the time to do so, when the only way they can be guaranteed to keep their first is to have a bottom 2 record.
But it would make more sense to try and be a middling team again this year, get rid of their obligation to the Spurs, and perhaps S&T Siakam and OG next summer and really tank. A lot of the players and FO would be unhappy, but the Raps seem to be stuck on the mediocrity treadmill.
He wouldn’t be an awful fit for the Mavs.
Siakam to a team other than Atlanta works great for us. They're not bad enough for a hard tank, but they should have a bottom 10 record, that's the sweet spot. Atlanta's picks are longer term, but Siakam is a better fit than they currently have, so I don't want him there.
Atlanta hired Quinn Snyder. Trae is starting to emphasize team chemistry. The team is making better moves (bailing on Collins) and looking for better balance.
There's a good chance the ATL picks won't be the manna we hope for. But they'll be mid-round at least.
I think so too, Snyder was a good hire for them and they're starting to target pieces that make more sense. That said, they have little flexibility and not enough talent, middle of the pack seems most likely, which in all honesty isn't bad value for Dejounte.
I'd amend my Pacers fake trade to + Nesmith and Smith and - Theis.
Still think the Hawks ones is better though and it sounds like they're the most motivated.
Either way, they'd still be a non contender and volatile situation that could easily go sideways within' the next few years.
If the Blazers can come out of this with four first-round picks, at least one or two young talents, and then salary-filler, that should get it done. I’m told that right now, Miami has three firsts, Tyler Herro, filler and maybe a young player already [as their offer], like willing to go with that. The question is finding that fourth first-round pick. And if you don’t want Herro, you just have to find someone to take Herro and give you another first-round pick. Then you’re at four firsts and at least one young player and salary filler, maybe even two young players. I’m told it’s pretty close, they just have to figure out. They hadn’t really spent much time working it out over the last couple of days.
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In this scenario it would seem that the only two rumored teams linked to Herro are us and the Nets. 'If' wewant him id think ots the Charlotte pick and filler. If it's the Nets(and I think it is) i wonder if we might get Dinwiddie for a year?
While I don’t think we are actually in play for Herro, this is why my best offer for him is the CHA pick. Miami and Portland need us to want Herro, and while I like him, it’s not like he is a golden acquisition for us. I want to find a way to move off the CHA pick, and if I can get Herro for it that seems like a win.
Might actually prefer flipping the CHA pick forward into a future, similarly protected, FRP though.
Utah supposedly has interest in Herro.
I don't think the Spurs have any interest.
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