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Darrin: Hold my $50 LED bulbs!
Also Boomer KarrenS in his early years: Nothing we can do about it - DDT, smog, and acid rain are all natural, not man-made (as I did my own research).
P.S. Why are libs saying cigarettes cause cancer?
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Darrin: Hold my $50 LED bulbs!
Darrin: ok but you won't get it back
It's just funny that Karrin decided to go on a climate change denial rant after the hottest day ever recorded on this planet.
He, like other Trumpsters, cannot deal with simple ideas like an average and variation.
I think its more likely they dont want to.
So try again.
The average temp of the earth's atmosphere and oceans is going up much faster (short amount of time) than in the past. Some of the past is a bit more sketchy because we were not taking global temps, but there are other ways to give us some broad ideas about the temp in the past. CO2 is the most abundant gas that plays a role in creating the greenhouse effect where sunlight is allowed in, but when the sunlight transforms into heat energy, CO2 wont let the heat energy back out into the outer reaches of the atmosphere, it traps a lot of heat energy. The rise in global temp correlates extraordinarily well with the earths rise in CO2 which has increased greatly since the industrial revolution.
Climate scientists and oil companies and others have gotten very good at creating models of climate, thus weather forecasts have gotten much better, especially broad forecasts over large amount of area.
AT this TIME the ideas are the earths AVG. temp (air and water) is rising rapidly per measurement. Also predicted by many different models is that the VARIATION in temp would increase. More very hot and very cold temps yet the earths AVERAGE would increase because, quite obviously, there would be a larger number of very hot extremes.
Does this make any sense Darrin? Ocean current patterns change, air patterns change, and then the infrastructure we have in place, FARMS and CITIES would have to deal with changes that they were not made for. This IS COSTING a buttload of money. We are going to have to become very adaptable to completely changing farming, cities, and so much else quickly because weather patterns are not only EXTREME, they VARY from the pattern have " we"laid out our farms and cities. "we" as humans on Earth.
So you think none of this makes sense DR. D?
"Wait till January, it will be very cold in some places" is not an argument. And because it gets very hot is some places its not absolutely on global warming (it could be tectonic etc...)
But overall... you say its BS?
the distinction between climate and weather should not be hard yet here you are.
AP) — Earth’s average temperature remained at a record high Wednesday, after two days in which the planet reached unofficial records. It’s the latest marker in a series of climate-change-driven extremes.
The average global temperature was 17.18 Celsius (62.9 degrees Fahrenheit), according to the University of Maine’s Climate Reanalyzer, a tool that uses satellite data and computer simulations to measure the world’s condition. That matched a record set Tuesday of 17.18 Celsius (62.9 Fahrenheit), and came after a previous record of 17.01 Celsius (62.6 degrees Fahrenheit) was set Monday.
https://www.wishtv.com/weather/weath...a-record-high/
On the scale of 1,000s of years, this visual illustrates that Earth’s temperature is now shooting straight up. Here are a few takeaways from the visual.
https://www.wfla.com/weather/climate...tting-started/Image: WFLA Jeff Berardelli adapted from Don’t Mention the Emergency
The rate of warming today is unprecedented in the 20,000 years shown. In fact, coming out of the last ice age, it took 10,000 years for the Earth’s average temperature to warm 3 degrees C.
Astonishingly, humans — due to the burning of fossil fuels and greenhouse gas emissions — will likely cause the same amount of warming in 200 years. That means our current warming rate is 50 times that of the natural warming rate that proceeded the most recent ice age.
Between 10,000 years ago and today’s rapid manmade warming, Earth’s average temperature was relatively constant, allowing human civilizations to thrive. There were disruptive regional cooling episodes like the disparate Little Ice Age events, but the impact on overall global temperature was relatively minor.
Image: Professor Ed Hawkins with PAGES2K data. Warming Stripes illustrates the Last 2000 years of global average temperature and the rapid warming in the last 100 years.
Since at the peak of the last ice age, Earth’s average temperature was about 10 degrees cooler than today, we know that it has not been this warm since before the last ice age. We call that time the “last interglacial” (in-between glacial periods) which peaked around 125,000 years ago.
Earth: this ice age...
Humans: hold our beers
https://www.douglewin.com/p/of-heat-...ves-of-utilityFirst of all, the Texas PUC should pass a rule to require monthly reporting of utility shutoffs. You can’t manage what you can’t measure, and Texas isn't even bothering to track how many Texans are shut off for nonpayments.
Second, state and local leaders should be aggressively pursuing federal dollars to help reduce costs and increase reliability at no cost to ratepayers or the state of Texas. The major federal infrastructure bills contain tens of billions in potential assistance funds. The Home Energy Rebate programs alone, which the State Energy Conservation Office will soon be able to apply for, could provide $690 million to help struggling Texans lower their bills by weatherizing their homes. (The state could prioritize those at high risk of shut off for these incentives to add insulation and upgrade HVAC systems. Other federal programs will help low income Texans get solar panels and battery storage systems.)
Third, Texas needs to do far more to help Texans optimize energy use. Texas spends a pittance on this, which costs all of us more when electricity demand es during extreme heat or cold. Energy optimization helps people reduce use during times of peak demand and use more when there’s more electricity on the grid. It’s about getting more of what we want out of our energy system, using less power on peak to get it, and spending less money overall.
Fourth, Texas utilities don’t do nearly enough to help customers with low incomes to pay their bills. As one example, CenterPoint, one of the largest utilities in the country covering most of the Houston area, spends only $4 million on such programs. (By contrast, their CEO made $38 million last year.) They reached only 2,000 homes; Houston has over 300,000 households in extreme poverty, earning less than 30% of Area Median Income (AMI). This is an acute problem. These funds should be increased and focused first and foremost on the people who need them the most.
Fifth, we should let all Texans profit from programs that reward customers for shifting their use. Today, factory owners and Bitcoin miners get paid to reduce power use when demand is high — but homeowners and renters don’t. That’s wrong, and it’s a problem for the grid.
I wrote recently about 4CP, a pricing program that allows big customers to reduce their bills by 20-30% (sometimes more) by using less when energy use peaks. That’s good, but it’s patently unfair that no price signal is available to small customers. The Independent Market Monitor has told the PUC for nearly a decade that 4CP shifts costs from big to small customers. Homeowners, renters, and small businesses need a similar avenue to shift their use and reduce their bills.
Goddam their CEO made $38 mil?
I thought CPS Energy CEO made a lot...
They do not track anything to do with the power grid. Like with education, Abbot tasked the Sunset Commission to analyze the grid in the wake of the winter storm a few years back.
One of the central recommendations was to track grid usage including outages and cutoffs in a central database. The idea being that we are in a position of supreme ignorance as to what is going on.
Of course Abbott nor the legislature has done any of the recommendations. Meanwhile, we get special sessions that nobody but Abbot wants.
https://www.sunset.texas.gov/public/...0Summary_0.pdf
Pretty crazy how man has dug ourselves out of the little ice age to where we're at now. This state is going to be so ed by 2060. I feel really bad for young people who will be paying the price for decades from boomers not giving a about the planet.
I don't know why Michigan is so high when in most of the state you can just open your windows 10 months or so out of the year and be comfortable... I guess it does get too hot through like late August to Mid september.
Modern civilization runs on cheap energy.
Since the Industrial Revolution, that has come from fossil fuels.
Replacing cheap fossil fuels with a much more expensive or unscalable alternative would end modern civilization.
The climate impact of fossil fuels might end modern civilization.
Quite the Catch-22.
I hope the smart people make the alternatives cheap and scalable before we hit 3.0.
Fossil fuels wont be replaced for a long time.
We already have scalable less expensive alternatives for most of our electric needs. And its going to get much better and more widespread.
It should and will take advantage of each situation for particular parts of the country and also should have the ability to be replaced and or moved as climate dictates.
And lots more to come.
Once we can control voltage better and store energy in a gravitational field staring us in the face, things should take off. Its coming. We will definitely be able to bypass batteries in some of these situations. More energy gets stored that can be used to turn turbines, not just rely on heated water, steam, or hydroelectric from natural water cycles. Not to mention fusion either because imo its also further down the road.
We also should figure out cheaply how to generate as much energy as has been produced by all fossil fuels over the past 150 years so that we can scrub CO2 out of the atmosphere and get back down to 280. It won’t be the status quo ante quite, but it will be better than what’s coming.
It’s looking like hydrogen can be the interim replacement for fossil fuel in some cases.
Natural gas still produces CO2 but all the other bi product “kill your lungs ” from longer hydrocarbons gets vastly reduced. This burning of larger hydrocarbons and coal is directly affecting peoples breathing especially in poor countries.
Now at 16 days for 2023 with 100+ forecast every day for the next two weeks. So hard to not see this end up at least a top 5 hottest summer. And in a ing El Nino year. Average summer here is supposed to be 18 days of 100+.
As Global Temperatures Soar,
Study Shows Europe's 2022 Summer Heat Killed 61,000+
https://www.commondreams.org/news/eu...22-heat-deaths
In 2019. a heat wave kill 15000 in France alone.
lol doom & gloomers
lol global warming deniers
I mean you're kind of old any way so what do you care if it's 120 degrees forty days in a row in the year 2050
Producing and storing hydrogen is looking better every week. so much research globally
As with EV charging networks, hydrogen infrastructure will be a speed bump
btw, copper prices for EVs, HEVs will push copper price very high for a long time
The explosion of renewable energy sources has overwhelmed the mostly-investor-owned, antiquated national grid.
The Capitalists will extort $Ts from taxpayers to subsidize grid investments, then charge exorbitant rates for delierying energy. national grid should be nationalized
lol this meme applying literally
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