We Still Need a Point Guard

[Ariel]

the price to move up was 4 firsts, including the hawks picks.

you’re nuts if you think that’s smart to do.

Source?

[Spurs Homer]

Portland would rather keep Dame than be fleeced.

That's why they didn't trade Scoot, they didn't want to get fleeced and set the asking price high.

spurs felt the same way with kawhi- pop even went to san diego to placate the traitor

spurs did NOT get their wish list fulfilled and neither will portland

[exstatic]

do we even know if portland likes jacquez at all? if miami was serious about trading for lillard, they basically should have asked portland who they should draft at that spot in furtherance of a deal

Lllard hadn’t his trade demand by the draft.

[Obstructed_View]

spurs felt the same way with kawhi- pop even went to san diego to placate the traitor

spurs did NOT get their wish list fulfilled and neither will portland

Portland isn't in danger of walking away with nothing as the Spurs were. Also, nobody is actively tampering with Dame.

[Seventyniner]

MIA can offer 2 unprotected 3 swaps and Herro , Jovic, Jacquez.

Jacquez can't be traded for a few more weeks, but given how long this is dragging out that might not be a problem.

I think the Spurs are involved in the negotiations, which is part of why they aren't making any moves. I don't think the Bullock trade has been completed; maybe it's being looped into the Dame trade to make it a 6 team monstrosity (Portland, Miami, San Antonio, Dallas, Boston, whoever gets Herro).

[mo7888]

Jacquez can't be traded for a few more weeks, but given how long this is dragging out that might not be a problem.

I think the Spurs are involved in the negotiations, which is part of why they aren't making any moves. I don't think the Bullock trade has been completed; maybe it's being looped into the Dame trade to make it a 6 team monstrosity (Portland, Miami, San Antonio, Dallas, Boston, whoever gets Herro).

I kind of think that's likely... I am curious as to what that looks like..

[Mr. Body]

Jacquez can't be traded for a few more weeks, but given how long this is dragging out that might not be a problem.

I think the Spurs are involved in the negotiations, which is part of why they aren't making any moves. I don't think the Bullock trade has been completed; maybe it's being looped into the Dame trade to make it a 6 team monstrosity (Portland, Miami, San Antonio, Dallas, Boston, whoever gets Herro).

How do you see the Spurs involved? Either they contribute picks or they take on salary. I don't see how they can take on salary and get picks.

[exstatic]

How do you see the Spurs involved? Either they contribute picks or they take on salary. I don't see how they can take on salary and get picks.

That's actually a really normal thing.

[Mr. Body]

That's actually a really normal thing.

No one's getting picks out of this trade scenario but Portland.

[exstatic]

You think the Spurs are going to take on salary without getting picks? Did you slam your head into a wall or something?

Go reread the part of your post that I bolded. It says nothing about taking on salary without picks and everything about getting picks for salary. Maybe you mistyped it?

[RC_Drunkford]

How do you see the Spurs involved? Either they contribute picks or they take on salary. I don't see how they can take on salary and get picks.

yeah right, that never happened before

[Mr. Body]

Go reread the part of your post that I bolded. It says nothing about taking on salary without picks and everything about getting picks for salary. Maybe you mistyped it?

Because you misunderstood what I said. You're being rather the pedant today, and in this case lead you wrong.

1. Portland wants two good prospects and four first round draft picks.

2. Miami does not have enough. They can perhaps give three first round draft picks, counting Jacquez as a first, and Jovic, although I don't know how much he counts for anything.

3. Another team needs to get involved to offer Portland more. Herro is an option for a third team.

4. The Spurs want picks and can take on salary.

5. Portland wants to dump Nurkic, but he is on a long contract.

6. For this Lillard trade to work, Portland needs more of what it values.

Assessment: If other teams join in, they need to help get Portland its assets. This might include taking on Nurkic in some fashion. I don't see how that's possible, since that would require a third team getting a draft asset or a coveted player who does not exist in this scenario.

Ergo, I don't see the Spurs taking on salary for draft assets, because those assets do not exist here. I don't see how the Dallas/Bullock/Boston trade gets involved with the Lillard trade because it doesn't provide anything required there at all.

[Mr. Body]

yeah right, that never happened before

Again, you two are being very purposefully obtuse, and it's very annoying. There are no draft picks for the Spurs to acquire in the Heat-Blazers trade.

[exstatic]

Jacquez can't be traded for a few more weeks, but given how long this is dragging out that might not be a problem.

I think the Spurs are involved in the negotiations, which is part of why they aren't making any moves. I don't think the Bullock trade has been completed; maybe it's being looped into the Dame trade to make it a 6 team monstrosity (Portland, Miami, San Antonio, Dallas, Boston, whoever gets Herro).

Because you misunderstood what I said. You're being rather the pedant today, and in this case lead you wrong.

1. Portland wants two good prospects and four first round draft picks.

2. Miami does not have enough. They can perhaps give three first round draft picks, counting Jacquez as a first, and Jovic, although I don't know how much he counts for anything.

3. Another team needs to get involved to offer Portland more. Herro is an option for a third team.

4. The Spurs want picks and can take on salary.

5. Portland wants to dump Nurkic, but he is on a long contract.

6. For this Lillard trade to work, Portland needs more of what it values.

Assessment: If other teams join in, they need to help get Portland its assets. This might include taking on Nurkic in some fashion. I don't see how that's possible, since that would require a third team getting a draft asset or a coveted player who does not exist in this scenario.

Ergo, I don't see the Spurs taking on salary for draft assets, because those assets do not exist here. I don't see how the Dallas/Bullock/Boston trade gets involved with the Lillard trade because it doesn't provide anything required there at all.

That's different from the original post that you quoted. We are actually discussing it BEING intertwined, so why you stuck your nose in it, I'm not sure. Multiple people are calling you out, so just take your L.

[spurraider21]

honestly i wish we could have addressed point guard but unfortunately the only options were to do nothing or to pay vanvleet 3/130 and there was nothing else to be done at all

[DAF86]

I think he’ll be fine in his career after some time but Anthony Black is having a horrible game today, currently a -21 versus the Pacers.

Not a fan of PGs that can't shoot, tbh. Even if they work on their shot, they only become below average. When we go for a PG, we need to have shooting as a top priority, tbh.

[BatManu20]

Gonna be PG by committee this season sadly. Tre will have to do most of the heavy lifting. Spurs would be better off sucking again this season tbh. This roster still needs high-end talent, and there’s like 3 PG’s projected to go in the top-10 of next year’s Draft (subject to change obv). Would be nice to get our hands on one of them. Either Isaiah Collier or DJ Wagner would be dope, assuming they live up to the hype.

[slick'81]

honestly i wish we could have addressed point guard but unfortunately the only options were to do nothing or to pay vanvleet 3/130 and there was nothing else to be done at all

exactly, barring a trade fred VV wasn't the answer

[DAF86]

honestly i wish we could have addressed point guard but unfortunately the only options were to do nothing or to pay vanvleet 3/130 and there was nothing else to be done at all

I would have loved for the Spurs to trade into the mid teens to get one of Bufkin, George or Hood-Schifino. Imagine how much more hyped we would be with Wemby and one of those PGs prospects balling during Summer League.

I wonder if the Hornets pick, 33 and maybe some other 2nd rounder could have made it work? Heck, I might have even considered giving away Keldon.

[playblair]

honestly i wish we could have addressed point guard but unfortunately the only options were to do nothing or to pay vanvleet 3/130 and there was nothing else to be done at all

the pg wembanyama needs.........

[BatManu20]

the pg wembanyama needs.........

I posted about him in the Draft thread like 3 weeks before the draft. Said how perfect he’d be for us if he were half a foot taller. But he’s not. He’s 5’8 and would get destroyed defensively at the NBA level. Doubt he even makes a roster tbh. If he somehow does, he’ll never play.

[scott]

Again, you two are being very purposefully obtuse, and it's very annoying.

Bruh, you ever read any of your own posts?

[DAF86]

This guy was picked at 27. With as many assets as the Spurs had, I really think the Spurs not getting one of the many PG prospects from this draft is GM malpractice, tbh.

[Mr. Body]

This guy was picked at 27. With as many assets as the Spurs had, I really think the Spurs not getting one of the many PG prospects from this draft is GM malpractice, tbh.

Not a point guard at all, man. He's a flimsy, frail shooter who will get abused on defense. We already have Branham who is much better.

[spurraider21]

we knew smith is a bucket-getter type, but wasnt particularly efficient in college. not sure he really has chops to play PG. undersized scoring 2 wasn't really a pressing need