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So, yeah, basically what I said.
Wesley missed a lot of potential time to grow while being injured his rookie season. Then when healthy it took some time to acclimate.
I’m not super high on Blake but I’m not low on him either. He needs a relatively healthy year. He’s a project and a good one.
So, yeah, basically what I said.
You were trying to imply that he had a significant role when he didn't when you said he was starting and holding his own. That is why I posted his stats.So, yeah, basically what I said.
No, I said what I said, what you got from it is your problem.
Pop trusted Murray with the starting gig whenever Tony was out because he was a much more advanced player than what Wesley is today. Do you see Pop starting rookie Wesley on those championship level teams? Not a chance in .
No, he had two other HOF players to buffer him. He could neither dribble or shoot at an NBA level, and mostly played SF because of his rebounding and defense.
Of course Pop would play DJM in Tony’s absence. He was the backup PG
Starting Patty instead would take his production off the 2nd unit and chemistry. Pop had to start DJM.
And yes given the same situation, Pop would play Wesley if he were the backup PG. Come on man.
If it were between Wesley and Laprovittola, I'm pretty sure he would have went with Laprovittola. Wesley isn't ready for prime time yet. Not saying Murray was at that time, but at least he could play a role and stay out of the way. Blake is too raw not to up at the level of execution that team played with.Of course Pop would play DJM in Tony’s absence. He was the backup PG
Starting Patty instead would take his production off the 2nd unit and chemistry. Pop had to start DJM.
And yes given the same situation, Pop would play Wesley if he were the backup PG. Come on man.
Well, Wesley can't do that, so.
I’ll bump this when Wesley starts balling. Wesley will be a stud I’m telling you. That kid has too much dog in him, he almost broke in a fight with Malaki
I don’t remember not once did DJM attack the rim with contact in his rookie year. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
He can’t elevate and generally has very poor touch. To me, those are the hurdles from the beginning. I think his shooting touch can improve some, but not sure about the weak vertical. I think his dogged determination works against him when he gets into the lane because he keeps trying to get to the rim but too often gets blocked horribly. He has to balance his will to fight with some actual bbiq, eventually.
Blake shot 38.5% from long as a rookie.
Blake Wesley's combine max vert is 36". While that's not world beating, it also isn't weak.
Blake's issue isn't elevation so much as where he takes off. He uses more momentum getting to the hoop and by the time he's airborne he's staying below the rim. He's also predictable once he's in the air. He's never going to be a guy who yams it over people but he's learning his angles better.
That’s interesting. Seems way less in games. Body’s point is interesting also, but seems like he would have worked to correct his jumping-timing a long time ago if that is indeed the issue.
That wouldn't make what I'm saying untrue, tbh.I’ll bump this when Wesley starts balling. Wesley will be a stud I’m telling you. That kid has too much dog in him, he almost broke in a fight with Malaki
I don’t remember not once did DJM attack the rim with contact in his rookie year. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Murray shot 39.1%
Either way, neither had enough of a sample size on 3's to make this a relevant argument, tbh.
Just not seeing sognificant improvement. Still no floater. Loose handles. Blocked a bunch at the rim. No point guard feel. Seems robotic and predetermined with his passes.
He’s young, but he really has only this season left to show he’s worth rostering before we need to cut bait. It seems like maybe to salvage him he needs to focus more on 3 and D and be a secondary ball handler. I don’t see how his instincts can improve enough to be a useful player at PG on a good team.
He’s played half of a rookie season.
He was out for less than six weeks if I remember correctly.
It’s a little silly to spend time debating whether DJM or Wesley were the better rookie…both were miserable and clearly not NBA-level players at that point in their development. It’s like arguing whether or vomit tastes better
- Both had single digit PERs
- Both were terrible finishers (they both could hardly crack 50% at the rim)
- Both were turnover prone (DJM averaged 4.2 TOs per 36, Wesley was at 3.5)
Wesley was a year younger than Murray, in a much less conducive situation to succeed, and lost significant time due to injury…but regardless, they were both awful. Does this mean Wesley will turn into the next Dejounte? Of course not - plenty of players suck as rookies and then just truly end up never being legitimate NBA players
People should continue to exercise patience throughout this year. If he still just looks completely lost and overwhelmed this time next year then sure, you can hit the panic button and question whether it’s time to cut bait.
If it takes Wesley five years to figure it out, he will be an all-star level player for at least a decade. The downside of that is he will do it for another team.
Honestly the slower developmental arc plays to our benefit. If he booms this year or the next we’ll have to throw major money at him to retain him. The ideal scenario would be one where he comes on more slowly and finally looks like league average player in year 3…then we extend him for a very reasonable deal and he officially breaks our shortly after.
Obviously somewhat of a pipe dream, but just saying that it could be a good thing if he takes a little longer to develop. Not like we’re dying for him to be a contributor to a playoff team in years 2 or 3.
He played 37 total games. That is less than half of an 82 game season.
The best thing for the Spurs would be for Wesley to show just enough to get a modest extension, then break out immediately after. Unlikely to happen though, compared to him breaking out earlier or never doing so at all.
Yeah, that's not how that works for a rookie.
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