Slotting The Spurs

[DAF86]

Hedo's bigger, and that makes him a forward. See how that works?

Why are you so bent on looking like a moron?

[spurraider21]

Bullock/Osman/Payne/Birch works. Their roster was decimated by free agency and the expected trade, so by providing them with a de facto bench of decent players, they can eat Birch's contract instead of us, and we get to sign Sidy and giving Barlow an NBA deal instead of a 2way.

yeah if we can dump 4 for 1 thats obviously great. though i think its more likely nobody takes birch and we end up waiving him and strike a 3 for 1 deal instead. if anything happens at all, of course

i also wonder if the spurs might just waive a few people and hope to trade some of these guys individually at the deadline for an SRP or something... but the roster numbers make that pretty farfetched

the thing is, i think lowry can still help the team, even if he's not what he used to be. the travesty would be just outright waiving some of the guys like osman/payne. getting the picks for taking them on is good enough, but its still leaving some meat on the bone

[exstatic]

Why are you so bent on looking like a moron?

Just showing you what your Wemby posturing looks like. Moron is a pretty good description.

[jesterbobman]

A Lowry for pieces / depth trade makes a lot of sense if the Heat get Dame.

They'd probably be sending out Herro and Robinson + picks and probably Jovic to Portland, and they've already lost depth in Strus and Vincent.
There's the straight Lowry for Bullock / Osman / Graham type functions, or a similar deal with the Spurs getting Herro and the expiring money going to Portland along with draft capital (if the cost isn't too high - Salary ballast and the Charlotte pick / some seconds would be fine with me), or adding in a Robinson / McDermott swap if the Blazers don't want long term money.

They definitely seem like the most natural other side of a 3 for 1 trade.

[exstatic]

yeah if we can dump 4 for 1 thats obviously great

i also wonder if the spurs might just waive a few people and hope to trade some of these guys individually at the deadline for an SRP or something... but the roster numbers make that pretty farfetched

the thing is, i think lowry can still help the team, even if he's not what he used to be.

[and maybe they can flip him at the deadline to a contender]

[DAF86]

Just showing you what your Wemby posturing looks like. Moron is a pretty good description.

But my point was never that Wemby is a center because of his height. Durant is a 7 footer and he isn't a center in my eyes. Wemby is a center because of his playing style. The sooner you realize this very easy fact to see, the sooner we can get over this re ed argument that will be laughable in a couple of years when we look back at it.

[TD 21]

A Lowry for pieces / depth trade makes a lot of sense if the Heat get Dame.

They'd probably be sending out Herro and Robinson + picks and probably Jovic to Portland, and they've already lost depth in Strus and Vincent.
There's the straight Lowry for Bullock / Osman / Graham type functions, or a similar deal with the Spurs getting Herro and the expiring money going to Portland along with draft capital (if the cost isn't too high - Salary ballast and the Charlotte pick / some seconds would be fine with me), or adding in a Robinson / McDermott swap if the Blazers don't want long term money.

They definitely seem like the most natural other side of a 3 for 1 trade.

A 2 for 1 for Fournier is another. With Champagnie looking more and more legit, McDermott could become more expendable, along with one of the recently acquired veterans for a 2nd with a decent projection.

[spurraider21]

A 2 for 1 for Fournier is another. With Champagnie looking more and more legit, McDermott could become more expendable, along with one of the recently acquired veterans for a 2nd with a decent projection.

mcdermott probably has some standalone value though, as a plug and play contributor/specialist on a decent sized expiring deal. dont think the spurs would just want to lump him into a consolidation deal unless they are getting solid trade comp

[Obstructed_View]

What's the point of this, really? Trying to mess up the argument just for the sake of not acknowledging you were wrong? Everybody and their mothers know Manu started the 2004 season in the lineup but Pop put Hedo over Manu because the Turk sucked off the bench. Pop literally benched Manu for Hedo but here you are trying to save face on a technichality.

Fine, if Hedo is a forward, then Bowen started over Manu, that would still make you wrong.

Wait, I said that the reason Manu came off the bench is only because Michael Finley sucked unless he was starting. You say that is the same reason Hedo started over him and you think I'm the one who was wrong because I didn't remember that? Okay.

[jesterbobman]

A 2 for 1 for Fournier is another. With Champagnie looking more and more legit, McDermott could become more expendable, along with one of the recently acquired veterans for a 2nd with a decent projection.

Yeah McDermott for Fournier and Detroit seconds (We have a lot, but those should be at 40ish), or one of the ty firsts from the Dieng trade that OKC made with NY would be fine. I imagine NY is waiting on Harden, seeing if Philly goes to a rebuild and then see if they can direct all of their ammo towards an Embiid trade.

[DAF86]

Wait, I said that the reason Manu came off the bench is only because Michael Finley sucked unless he was starting. You say that is the same reason Hedo started over him and you think I'm the one who was wrong because I didn't remember that? Okay.

Yeah, because Manu came off the bench every year, no matter who was starting at SG. Obviously not because they were better, but because Pop liked the strategy of having Manu come off the bench.

[TD 21]

Yeah McDermott for Fournier and Detroit seconds (We have a lot, but those should be at 40ish), or one of the ty firsts from the Dieng trade that OKC made with NY would be fine. I imagine NY is waiting on Harden, seeing if Philly goes to a rebuild and then see if they can direct all of their ammo towards an Embiid trade.

No way the 76ers go into a re-build, Harden or not. Expect them to retain him since there's no viable trade to be made and they have all the leverage because in order for him to get one last big long term contract, he has to be on his best behavior.

[Obstructed_View]

Yeah, because Manu came off the bench every year, no matter who was starting at SG. Obviously not because they were better, but because Pop liked the strategy of having Manu come off the bench.

Except for when he started.

[Fireball]

Sochan is starting. Guaranteed.

[DAF86]

Except for when he started.

In only 2 seasons out of a 16 years NBA career did Manu start more games than he came off the bench. And in thosw 2 years, he still had games coming off the bench. He literally came off the bench in every single season he played.

[stnick2261]

Wait, I said that the reason Manu came off the bench is only because Michael Finley sucked unless he was starting. You say that is the same reason Hedo started over him and you think I'm the one who was wrong because I didn't remember that? Okay.

Yeah, because Manu came off the bench every year, no matter who was starting at SG. Obviously not because they were better, but because Pop liked the strategy of having Manu come off the bench.

Manu was a starter until Michael Finley. And yes, Finley sucked unless he was starting and that's why Manu came off the bench. However, it was such a success that Pop kept it that way no matter who else joined the team and Manu was the first one off the bench with fresh legs and already scouting the compe ion.

[DAF86]

Manu was a starter until Michael Finley. And yes, Finley sucked unless he was starting and that's why Manu came off the bench. However, it was such a success that Pop kept it that way no matter who else joined the team and Manu was the first one off the bench with fresh legs and already scouting the compe ion.

Manu came off the bench with Jackson and Turkoglu way before Finley got to the Spurs.

[Dejounte]

Manu was also leagues better than Sochan on offense, there’s literally no benefit to having Sochan come off the bench. The whole reason Manu did was because of his ability on offense and his will to give it his all. They’re completely different players and what they bring is so different.

[Chinook]

Combo-guard is one of the archetypes for sixth man. Energy swing big is another. Diaw and Odom are examples Sochan might follow.

I don't think it's completely unlikely that Johnson, Sochan and Wemby are the starting front court, actually. But I do think it's between Collins and Sochan. Johnson might well be a better bench player. But I don't know that Sochan and Jones starting with Collins is good for the offense.

[Obstructed_View]

In only 2 seasons out of a 16 years NBA career did Manu start more games than he came off the bench. And in thosw 2 years, he still had games coming off the bench. He literally came off the bench in every single season he played.

You know what? I don't even remember what we were arguing about and we probably are just shouting past each other at this point. I concede the argument. Let's hope the Spurs have players as great and versatile as Manu, who are professional enough to show up no matter the situation.

[ismael-robert]

[mudyez]

Imo the most interesting question question beside who will start is what happens between McDermott and Branham. Will the former just be a trade chip like some of our later aquisitions. Is the later just a prospect or will he get major minutes? When will the transition happen? Right from the start, during the season or next offseason?

[CorrectCrusader]

You know what? I don't even remember what we were arguing about and we probably are just shouting past each other at this point. I concede the argument. Let's hope the Spurs have players as great and versatile as Manu, who are professional enough to show up no matter the situation.

I don't think I've ever seen behavior like this on a webforum

[Obstructed_View]

I don't think I've ever seen behavior like this on a webforum

We used to get into nasty brawls back in the day.

A. I'm too old.

B. Life's too short.

C. I honestly lost track of the argument.

[Obstructed_View]

Imo the most interesting question question beside who will start is what happens between McDermott and Branham. Will the former just be a trade chip like some of our later aquisitions. Is the later just a prospect or will he get major minutes? When will the transition happen? Right from the start, during the season or next offseason?

I was 100 percent ready for Mcbuckets to go. He was nothing but an expiring contract to me...until the Spurs got Victor.

I'm beyond intrigued at the idea of Doug scoring 20 points and Victor getting six assists in two minutes.