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    Can't believe how developed and polished SJRice looked out there.

    sniffing out and intercepting long upcourt passes, the wisdom to turn your body to draw contact as you receive the ball, the natural court vision and offense orchestrating, pretty good looking three point shot.

    Incredible stuff what a catch by Spurs scouts.
    Well yeah, he's 25 in 6 months. that's 5 years more of BB than lots of these kids out there. He's an adult among teens.That would be worrynig he wasn't a bit developed and polished. But there's probably not much room for improvement and you don't want to still be in SL at 24.

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    good call still catching up on SJR. didn't realize he was already almost 25 that explains it.

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    Wemby, Branham, Champ, Barlow, Sissoko, and Rice. These 6 players made a very nice showing at SL. Defensively, Wesley did as well, but offensively, he has much to improve on. At any rate I am really pleased with our young future. I am also pleased with the way the rest of the team came out to show support and root on our SL team. It is an exciting and hopeful time to be a Spurs fan. GO SPURS GO

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    Wemby, Branham, Champ, Barlow, Sissoko, and Rice. These 6 players made a very nice showing at SL. Defensively, Wesley did as well, but offensively, he has much to improve on. At any rate I am really pleased with our young future. I am also pleased with the way the rest of the team came out to show support and root on our SL team. It is an exciting and hopeful time to be a Spurs fan. GO SPURS GO
    Crazy that you can add Sochan, Vassell, Bassey, and in Wemby to this list. Future lookin' bright

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    Crazy that you can add Sochan, Vassell, Bassey, and in Wemby to this list. Future lookin' bright
    Keldon is also still 23 lol

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    Keldon is also still 23 lol
    Good call. Dude feels like a veteran already but he is still a young gun and obviously considered a leader going forward.

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    Good call. Dude feels like a veteran already but he is still a young gun and obviously considered a leader going forward.
    yeah, i still have questions about his long term fit given his defense and off-ball ability, but he's still pretty green. think in a perfect world, he and branham run the second unit against opposing backups. he'll still be starting this year, no doubt, but just thinking outlook beyond this season

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    I do understand the agreement on seeing Keldon as the odd man out now that we have Wemby but...

    I think Wemby is going to make Keldon allot better just by taking the attention and pressure off of him, and Keldon in return is going to keep the defense honest enough to help free up Wemby. I guess only time will tell how well they gel and compliment each other. At least give it a chance untill deadline and if there is something there that might make us better then of course it would be right to go for it.

    I just see Keldon still has a great 2nd or 3rd option to have and I'm not ready to give up on that yet.

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    I do understand the agreement on seeing Keldon as the odd man out now that we have Wemby but...

    I think Wemby is going to make Keldon allot better just by taking the attention and pressure off of him, and Keldon in return is going to keep the defense honest enough to help free up Wemby. I guess only time will tell how well they gel and compliment each other. At least give it a chance untill deadline and if there is something there that might make us better then of course it would be right to go for it.

    I just see Keldon still has a great 2nd or 3rd option to have and I'm not ready to give up on that yet.
    im in the camp that doesnt project keldon as a long term fit but the book isn't closed on him. we can see if his efficiency gets better playing alongside a wemby. he's still 23 and can add to his game. he's entering year 1 of a 4 year contract so has plenty of time to prove himself

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    Why would you? the former is overrated and the latter are garbage.
    Dieng is definitely not garbage.

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    thought i would post this here as dont think it is worth of another thread but it list the players rank during summer league.
    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/vegas-s...064856199.html

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    Dieng is definitely not garbage.
    It's funny how other teams players who put up numbers just need some development time, but we need to cut Wesley immediately because he didn't show out in 37 games.

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    It's funny how other teams players who put up numbers just need some development time, but we need to cut Wesley immediately because he didn't show out in 37 games.
    You sure love slaying those straw men.

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    You sure love slaying those straw men.
    People here LOVE Ousman Dieng. People here also want Wesley cut yesterday. Some of them are the same people. I don't think this is so much a case of creating a strawman as it is pointing out hypocrisy.

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    It's funny how other teams players who put up numbers just need some development time, but we need to cut Wesley immediately because he didn't show out in 37 games.
    Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

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    It's funny how other teams players who put up numbers just need some development time, but we need to cut Wesley immediately because he didn't show out in 37 games.
    Dieng != Wesley:

    Ousmane Dieng's Summer League progress 2022->2023
    Ousmane has made significant leaps compared to last year.

    2022 Summer League Stats (3 games played)
    7.3ppg/3.7rpg/0.7apg/0.3spg on 40.9/18.2/50 splits

    2023 Summer League (7 games played)
    14.1ppg/6.1rpg/4apg/1spg on 50/35.1/76.9 splits

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    Is summer league definitive for determining a player’s growth? I thought people mostly looked at regular season numbers year to year. Summer league says some things, sure. But i dont know about closing the book on players who have underwhelming summer performances.

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    Is summer league definitive for determining a player’s growth? I thought people mostly looked at regular season numbers year to year. Summer league says some things, sure. But i dont know about closing the book on players who have underwhelming summer performances.
    No, the environment is much different than in the NBA, where role, playing time, and situation is much different. I think you can see some trends in how a player is developing that can be exciting to see. They don't necessarily mean a leap has been made or will happen.

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    Dieng != Wesley:

    Ousmane Dieng's Summer League progress 2022->2023
    Ousmane has made significant leaps compared to last year.

    2022 Summer League Stats (3 games played)
    7.3ppg/3.7rpg/0.7apg/0.3spg on 40.9/18.2/50 splits

    2023 Summer League (7 games played)
    14.1ppg/6.1rpg/4apg/1spg on 50/35.1/76.9 splits
    Most of that came on one good game, a 22 point outing. He played against our deep SL bench + Sidy, and didn't do .

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    Is summer league definitive for determining a player’s growth? I thought people mostly looked at regular season numbers year to year. Summer league says some things, sure. But i dont know about closing the book on players who have underwhelming summer performances.
    When a young player has a list of things to work on during the offseason, particularly when he is being worked into a new position that he has never played, there are certain metrics you watch for in summer league, which gives you an idea of his progress.

    When a player comes into summer league showing close to zero improvement in every area, when many people were expecting him to potentially be a backup at his new position, it's cause for concern, even if it's not definitive.

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    We’re not arguing if it’s a cause for concern or not. In fact, it is. This is all continuing off the thread that ex brought up about hypocrisy around making decisions based off definitive assessment of summer league play. This is that.

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    It's funny how other teams players who put up numbers just need some development time, but we need to cut Wesley immediately because he didn't show out in 37 games.
    I never said Wesley had to be cut.

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    I never said Wesley had to be cut.
    Did I name you?

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    We’re not arguing if it’s a cause for concern or not. In fact, it is. This is all continuing off the thread that ex brought up about hypocrisy around making decisions based off definitive assessment of summer league play. This is that.
    Pop has signed players based on nothing but summer league.

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    Well, you quoted me.

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