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    Why would the Knicks pay the Spurs to take Fournier? He's an expiring contract just like anybody the Spurs would send back.
    He'd be a sizeable player exception. Depending on the structure, they may shed salary. Depending on the players, they may acquire depth.

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    Why would the Knicks pay the Spurs to take Fournier? He's an expiring contract just like anybody the Spurs would send back.
    That’s a different question than the “fit” question you raised, but, yes, a valid question. They’d probably be enticed by: 1) savings from a valid but lopsided trade (12M for 18M), and/or 2) getting off a grumpy player.

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    That’s a different question than the “fit” question you raised, but, yes, a valid question. They’d probably be enticed by: 1) savings from a valid but lopsided trade (12M for 18M), and/or 2) getting off a grumpy player.
    I had assumed both that the Knicks wouldn't be willing to include assets in an expiring-for-expirings swap and thus the fit would matter because there would be no other reason for the Spurs to trade for Fournier.

    You're right that the Knicks might give an asset, probably a small one like a second round pick, to get a player or two that don't have Fournier's at ude problem. But with the current Spurs roster Fournier wouldn't have any easier of a path to playing time with the Spurs than he did with the Knicks. That's where the fit comes in.

    You're also right that the Spurs could save the Knicks some money by sending out less than Fournier's full salary. Fournier will make $18.9M and the Spurs only have to send out around $12M. Graham for Fournier straight up works in the ESPN NBA Trade Machine, for example. That trade makes no sense for the Spurs, though, and any combination of players the Spurs would be willing to give up would eat into that theoretical maximum $6.9M savings. Osman + Birch is $13.7M, saving the Knicks $5.2M.

    The Spurs would still have a roster crunch after a 2-for-1 like that but if the Knicks are willing to give up something like a second and maybe some cash (half the savings from the trade?) the Spurs could take the deal and then cut Fournier to avoid him whining about having to compete with McD and Champ for minutes as a backup.

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    Isn't he under contract through next season?
    His $19M salary for 2024-2025 is a team option, one that will almost certainly be declined, so he's basically an expiring contract.

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    Isn't he under contract through next season?
    Team option, so, no.

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    Last edited by Spurs Brazil; 07-22-2023 at 07:58 PM.

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    Are they just repackaging the interview from last week, or is this something new?

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    Do not want. He was ineffective in limited minutes, and I don want him getting regular minutes and stunting the development of our young players.

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    Is Pop getting a package ready for Patty Mills?

    Any word on Bryn Forbes availability?

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    Guess well be linked to every french player from here on out

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    Guess well be linked to every french player from here on out
    Vive la révolution!

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    Vive la révolution!
    Shams : Spurs sign Max Robespierre to a designated veteran max contract worth 500 million. Rival GMs worried that Spurs reign of terror is just beginning.

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    Looks like RealGM updated it’s future picks tracker. By my count this was the haul this summer (including selling off 33 in the draft):

    2025 SRP from NOLA
    2026 SRP from OKC, DAL, PHI (worst)
    2026 SRP from UTH
    2027 SRP from OKC, HOU, IND, MIA (worst)
    2028 SRP from MIN
    2030 FRP from DAL (swap)
    2030 SRP from CLE

    I think a few of those are intentionally nothing burger picks like the 2027. And, list could grow some if they flip Bullock and others acquired.

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    Not a trade, but Jaylen Brown got his 5 year/$304MM extension from Boston. Richest contract in NBA history…sheesh.

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    Not a trade, but Jaylen Brown got his 5 year/$304MM extension from Boston. Richest contract in NBA history…sheesh.
    Pretty wild, just going to be the norm from now on. Good for him, imagine how much the owners are making!

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    Pretty wild, just going to be the norm from now on. Good for him, imagine how much the owners are making!
    Agreed on both fronts.

    The Celtics will probably have a few lean years around 2030-2032 if they are willing to stay over the second apron, but carpe diem baby.

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    Not a trade, but Jaylen Brown got his 5 year/$304MM extension from Boston. Richest contract in NBA history…sheesh.
    Lol at the thought of Vassell extension coming in at 15M per.

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    Not a trade, but Jaylen Brown got his 5 year/$304MM extension from Boston. Richest contract in NBA history…sheesh.
    Instantly awful contract.

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    wonder if that contract helps us out with the 2028 pick swap

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    Man Wemby is going to make 80 a year. Crazy. I’m guessing he will be the first 5 year 400 million dollar contract

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    That sound is of the Celtics window slamming shut.

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    Man Wemby is going to make 80 a year. Crazy. I’m guessing he will be the first 5 year 400 million dollar contract
    The cap will have gone up at that point and presumably he'll be a very good player.

    I'm not sure Jaylen Brown is a top 20 player in the league...

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    i wonder what the saudis would pay jaylen.

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    Not a trade, but Jaylen Brown got his 5 year/$304MM extension from Boston. Richest contract in NBA history…sheesh.
    GS gives those kinds of contracts, but they win les. Boston hasn't, and is already feeling the cap crunch before this deal, as they are offloading role players they can no longer afford. I see them as one of the first 2-3 teams to have their 2031 or 2032 pick trade locked and then subsequently moved to the end of the first round.

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