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    nothing new

    at least the crazy guy didnt bring up mussolini and the pope this time
    Nothing new yet you were laughing earlier that I didn't comment? Ok.

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    You are such an idiot.
    Exactly what do you think they have that will cause a panic. Please lay it out.

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    Exactly what do you think they have that will cause a panic. Please lay it out.
    You are such an idiot.

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    Now TSA believes intelligence officials? He said they were lying about trump but believes them about some ing aliens

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    Guy is mental

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    Qtsa is doubling down again, on cue as he loses his conspiracy mind. Must be the fun time of the week for his family.

    Truly, he has been broken beyond repair and completely shattered his reputation. It's beyond time for him to fire up an alt if he want to continue posting here. His current handle has been destroyed. He should stop embarrassing himself further.

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    Just horse to boost Commerce.

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    I don't see what's unbelievable about this, tbh. It's a big Universe and we're babies on a cosmological timescale. Not to mention how corrupt to the bone government and private industry can be, as we all know.

    Either way, if Grusch is lying, being duped, or really telling the truth, then the ICIG, Senate Intelligence committees, and further Congressional inquiry in closed SCIFs will determine that. Grusch did submit lists of names (40 people at last count) and locations last year to the IC Inspector General and the aforementioned committees, after all. Backed by his counsel, another former Inspector General, no less.

    Odd though that, once you fastforward to today, we don't see them jailing him - and they certainly would have further reason now that he testified under oath - or even see the DoD calling him a fraud. Instead they direct you to AARO (who doesn't even have le 50 authority (lol)).

    Instead we see "UAP disclosure" admendments brought forth in a bi-partisan manner from guys like Chuck Schumer no less and more movement in DC to get to the bottom of this.

    Some conspiracies have been proven true. Let's see how this one plays out. Anyone who wants the truth, and more oversight for Government and private industry should be for this regardless of which of the 3 scenarios this turns out to be.
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    LOL WGAF except you gullible re s...

    LMAO There's UFO's and Aliens!!!!

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    People panic about Barbie movies. Of course they would. Toilet paper would disappear again.
    Those people would be more worried that ZartOc would make an anchor baby and drain our healthcare system some more

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    I don't see what's unbelievable about this, tbh. It's a big Universe and we're babies on a cosmological timescale. Not to mention how corrupt to the bone government and private industry can be, as we all know.
    Because the math, science, and time scale make the odds as close to zero as you might can get.

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    You are such an idiot.
    You watch too many movies

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    I don't see what's unbelievable about this, tbh. It's a big Universe and we're babies on a cosmological timescale. Not to mention how corrupt to the bone government and private industry can be, as we all know.

    Either way, if Grusch is lying, being duped, or really telling the truth, then the ICIG, Senate Intelligence committees, and further Congressional inquiry in closed SCIFs will determine that. Grusch did submit lists of names (40 people at last count) and locations last year to the IC Inspector General and the aforementioned committees, after all. Backed by his counsel, another former Inspector General, no less.

    Odd though that, once you fastforward to today, we don't see them jailing him - and they certainly would have further reason now that he testified under oath - or even see the DoD calling him a fraud. Instead they direct you to AARO (who doesn't even have le 50 authority (lol)).

    Instead we see "UAP disclosure" admendments brought forth in a bi-partisan manner from guys like Chuck Schumer no less and more movement in DC to get to the bottom of this.

    Some conspiracies have been proven true. Let's see how this one plays out. Anyone who wants the truth, and more oversight for Government and private industry should be for this regardless of which of the 3 scenarios this turns out to be.
    believing its likely that theres life or intelligent life somewhere else in the universe is different from believing that we've had visitors crash land here or whatever, and there has been an extremely effective tight lipped cover up worldwide

    its possible. but i need good evidence to believe these claims

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    This is exactly what I think a government disclosure would look like. They aren't and can't just reveal it all at once. It would have to be a slow methodical stream of information to not freak everyone out and cause panic.
    So it would look like QAnon.

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    believing its likely that theres life or intelligent life somewhere else in the universe is different from believing that we've had visitors crash land here or whatever, and there has been an extremely effective tight lipped cover up worldwide

    its possible. but i need good evidence to believe these claims
    Agreed. So let's allow the ICIG investigation play out.

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    Because the math, science, and time scale make the odds as close to zero as you might can get.
    About? We're not necessarily discussing space aliens. NHI =/= ET

    Also, what data do you have about crash retrievals to which you can discuss the science?

    Again, not saying it's true. Grusch could be being duped, but we have none of the classified information Grusch, the ICIG, or these government en ies/contractors/private industry have.

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    Because the math, science, and time scale make the odds as close to zero as you might can get.
    Our math, science and time?

    Just sayin

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    Either:

    1. Grusch and Co are lying.

    2. Grusch and Co, Congress, ICIG, etc, etc are all being duped by some unknown cabal of goverment and private industry insiders for reasons unknown.

    3. It's more or less real.

    I can't see 1 being true as the ICIG investigation has been going on over a year now, and was deemed urgent and credible. Grusch and Co. would also have a lot to lose.

    So that leaves 2 and 3. We can debate that all day. Personally? I don't really care. Either are not very good...

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    Agreed. So let's allow the ICIG investigation play out.
    Who's not allowing it to play out? What are you expecting to find?

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    Our math, science and time?

    Just sayin
    Who's others are there?

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    Either:

    1. Grusch and Co are lying.

    2. Grusch and Co, Congress, ICIG, etc, etc are all being duped by some unknown cabal of goverment and private industry insiders for reasons unknown.

    3. It's more or less real.

    I can't see 1 being true as the ICIG investigation has been going on over a year now, and was deemed urgent and credible. Grusch and Co. would also have a lot to lose.

    So that leaves 2 and 3. We can debate that all day. Personally? I don't really care. Either are not very good...
    4. Grusch thinks he's telling the truth based on the limited information he has

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    Who's not allowing it to play out? What are you expecting to find?
    Anyone coming to any definite conclusions before the investigation is completed.

    And I'm not sure what you're referring to with your second question. I'm not investigating anything. I don't know what the Inspector General for the IC and DoD is going to find about a whistle blower complaint - that the IG deemed "urgent and credible" - on a potential secret program dealing with NHI without Congressional oversight.

    I'm interested though to know what the outcome of the investigation is though. It's also up to Congress to follow up on that. The legislation put up by Schumer recently signals that they will. We'll see.

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    Anyone coming to any definite conclusions before the investigation is completed.

    And I'm not sure what you're referring to with your second question. I'm not investigating anything. I don't know what the Inspector General for the IC and DoD is going to find about a whistle blower complaint - that the IG deemed "urgent and credible" - on a potential secret program dealing with NHI without Congressional oversight.

    I'm interested though to know what the outcome of the investigation is though. It's also up to Congress to follow up on that. The legislation put up by Schumer recently signals that they will. We'll see.
    I'm asking your opinion. What exactly do you think is being hidden? A spaceship? A dead green body?

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    4. Grusch thinks he's telling the truth based on the limited information he has
    Which is why it's important to note that he testified under oath to Congress in this hearing that he submitted 40 names he vetted over the course of 4 years, as well as locations and other relevant information in seperate Senate hearings, to the SSCI and to the DoD/IC Inspector Generals. The latter are still investigating the claims over a year later.

    Will be interesting to see where the investigations into these first hand witnesses leads. Hopefully the seemingly open transparency from Congress continues...but I wouldn't hold my breath on that whatever the truth is.

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    I'm asking your opinion. What exactly do you think is being hidden? A spaceship? A dead green body?
    You're asking me a loaded question by framing it around only the NHI possibility.

    I'll answer for both outcomes if you're truly interested.

    I think either the "insiders" Grusch is whistleblowing against are hiding very human black projects, or hiding exactly what Grusch claims - NHI tech and biological material. I don't know if that means "spaceships" and "little green men". Again, it doesn't seem Grusch is alluding to literal space aliens.

    Obviously the former is more likely. Either is crazy, however, and that's fine to admit although not impossible (imho).

    We should all want the truth whatever it is.

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