Siakam Trade Rumors Including to Spurs

[baseline bum]

Any pick. Did you read the proposed trade? I don't get what the Spurs would be actually getting, Capella? I thought the idea was to take on Capella's contract to gain draft capital. Not only we wouldn't be getting that, we would be giving away a potential 1st. Am I reading this wrong? What's the Spurs' gain in this?

Edit: i forgot, we would also be giving up Keldon. What in the actual ?

Keldon's not in the proposed trade for Capella. That would nuts.

[ChumpDumper]

Why the would we want Capela in our team?

To play center while Wemby plays PF, of course.

[DAF86]

To play center while Wemby plays PF, of course.

We have a much better and cheaper fit in Collins.

[DAF86]

Keldon's not in the proposed trade for Capella. That would nuts.

You're right, I got mixed up with folks talking about Keldon above. Either way it's nuts. The only way the Spurs are taking on Capela's contract is if they get a 1st round pick, not give one away.

[ChumpDumper]

We have a much better and cheaper fit in Collins.

You think Collins will make a much better center allowing Wemby to play PF.

[DAF86]

You think Collins will make a much better center allowing Wemby to play PF.

Personally, I would start Wemby at C and play Sochan at PF, but if the Spurs really want to ease Wemby into the league at PF, I think Collins would be a perfect fit to put his body against the Jokics and Embiids of this World, while standing on the 3pt line on offense so that Wemby can play inside.

[TD 21]

They're not rumors, they're (foolish) suggestions; it's Capela, not Capella; and for the umpteenth time, the Spurs already have the ideal big man rotation for Wembanyama.

The last thing they need is a relatively expensive veteran starting C, some of whom will cost a solid asset, be guaranteed 25-30 mpg and either can't shoot (Capela) or can't shoot well/frequent enough (Valanciunas, Nurkic) to stretch the floor.

That piece would relegate Wembanyama to mostly spot-up shooter and slide Sochan down a position(s) to get him the minutes he should be slated for.

[sfernald]

Why the would we want Capela in our team?

Cause we want a decent center next to Wemby for a couple years. One that won't make us wanna vomit.

[Knoxxx]

They're not rumors, they're (foolish) suggestions; it's Capela, not Capella; and for the umpteenth time, the Spurs already have the ideal big man rotation for Wembanyama.

The last thing they need is a relatively expensive veteran starting C, some of whom will cost a solid asset, be guaranteed 25-30 mpg and either can't shoot (Capela) or can't shoot well/frequent enough (Valanciunas, Nurkic) to stretch the floor.

That piece would relegate Wembanyama to mostly spot-up shooter and slide Sochan down a position(s) to get him the minutes he should be slated for.

There’s gold in that there post! Correcting a minor typo and use of the word “umpteenth”. Good stuff!

[BackHome]

Hard pass

[exstatic]

Cause we want a decent center next to Wemby for a couple years. One that won't make us wanna vomit.

He’s a dinosaur. Collins is a MUCH better option.

[Atl Spur]

Collins is a slick passer with a high bb iq and competes!

[Knoxxx]

My concern is if Collins is so slick what’s he going to cost in 2024-5 and beyond? We reclaimed the project now do we get a home town loyalty extension discount?

[spurraider21]

My concern is if Collins is so slick what’s he going to cost in 2024-5 and beyond? We reclaimed the project now do we get a home town loyalty extension discount?

Collins realizes that if he can produce all season the way he did last year after the Poeltl trade, he's going to be due for a pretty massive contract next offseason. Probably why the sides haven't reached a deal on an extension. He's betting on himself.

[Seventyniner]

My concern is if Collins is so slick what’s he going to cost in 2024-5 and beyond? We reclaimed the project now do we get a home town loyalty extension discount?

Zollins has every right to get the biggest bag he can, whatever team offers it to him. He already signed one team friendly contract for the Spurs.

[exstatic]

My concern is if Collins is so slick what’s he going to cost in 2024-5 and beyond? We reclaimed the project now do we get a home town loyalty extension discount?

If he costs $20M, that’s $20M better spent than on Capela.

[cd98]

It's not that I don't think Siakam is a good player, but if he's that good, why could they not make the playoffs last season with that roster?

[TD 21]

Given what Reid (3/$42M) and Stewart (4/$64M) received, if Collins can build off of last season by proving he can withstand starter's minutes for a full season, he's in line for a contract in that range.

Considering his injury history, the reality that he wouldn't start and at least sometimes close on most teams and the promising future this team now appears to possess, I don't see his representation playing hardball.

[Fireball]

Capella is a non-shooting big ... I prefer Collins to space the floor on offense. On defense Wemby already is the better version of the helpside shotblocker that Capella is.

[DAF86]

Cause we want a decent center next to Wemby for a couple years. One that won't make us wanna vomit.

Capela makes me vomit.

[exstatic]

Cause we want a decent center next to Wemby for a couple years. One that won't make us wanna vomit.

You’re like stuck in the 90s and 2000s. The rim runner/shot blocker only model is obsolete.

[Dex]

You’re like stuck in the 90s and 2000s. The rim runner/shot blocker only model is obsolete.

Tiago did a pretty damn good job for us all the way up to like 2015 but couldn't stay healthy, and he had a team of veteran passers around him who knew how to play through him.

But yes, it seems the model of a shooting big is now the "new formula" for better or worse

[MultiTroll]

It's not that I don't think Siakam is a good player, but if he's that good, why could they not make the playoffs last season with that roster?

Not everyone is Timmy Dunks.

Even excellent players have missed the POs on a scrub team.

[exstatic]

Tiago did a pretty damn good job for us all the way up to like 2015 but couldn't stay healthy, and he had a team of veteran passers around him who knew how to play through him.

But yes, it seems the model of a shooting big is now the "new formula" for better or worse

EVERYTHING changed in 2015 when the NBA changed the pick and roll defensive rules. By not allowing defenders to fight through, everything became a switch, leading to the near extinction of the traditional big. A modern 4/5 needs to ba able to switch everything on defense, and stretch the floor on offense. I said 90s and 2000s, but I should have just said pre-2015, because that was the seismic change. It’s been 8 years, and posters here, and some really dumb NBA GMs still don’t understand how little value a player like Capela has, going forward.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

They're not rumors, they're (foolish) suggestions; it's Capela, not Capella; and for the umpteenth time, the Spurs already have the ideal big man rotation for Wembanyama.

The last thing they need is a relatively expensive veteran starting C, some of whom will cost a solid asset, be guaranteed 25-30 mpg and either can't shoot (Capela) or can't shoot well/frequent enough (Valanciunas, Nurkic) to stretch the floor.

That piece would relegate Wembanyama to mostly spot-up shooter and slide Sochan down a position(s) to get him the minutes he should be slated for.

A cappella...or Ahhh, Capela