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    Pretty wild how after 2019 he hasn't done anything. 4 years of his prime just wasted lol

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    Pretty wild how after 2019 he hasn't done anything. 4 years of his prime just wasted lol
    It sure feels that way, especially with all the load management bull during the regular season. But in fairness, in the 26 playoff games he has played as a Clipper he had been DOMINANT before, of course, falling to injury.

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    It sure feels that way, especially with all the load management bull during the regular season. But in fairness, in the 26 playoff games he has played as a Clipper he had been DOMINANT before, of course, falling to injury.
    I'm not even hating on the guy, I think he could have been top 10 all time if he didn't act up. Being dominant in 20% of scheduled games doesn't mean anything. The real question is, how bad are the Clippers going to be next season? LOL

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    I'm not even hating on the guy, I think he could have been top 10 all time if he didn't act up. Being dominant in 20% of scheduled games doesn't mean anything. The real question is, how bad are the Clippers going to be next season? LOL
    Not a chance. Efficiency isn't everything. Lack of play making and inability to be a galvanizing force are major draw backs in addition to lack of durability and diva at ude.

    Unfortunately, somehow it seems to in his case. His '19 championship has zero credibility (rested 95 games over 2 seasons leading up, antics tanked value to extent that trade that otherwise wouldn't have so much as been considered was consummated and Warriors decimated by injury).

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    Oh. You said he’s not a leader and i responded saying he led a team to a championship. Didn’t think it warranted any elaboration
    He led them? Why not Lowry? Why not nurse?

    Primo led the spurs to the lottery. He must have been a leader too.

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    its an attempted rebuttal, not a "debunking". i reject the premise that lowry was the leader of the team. lowry might have had a more vocal leadership role (anybody is more vocal than kawhi) but thats not the only form of leadership

    when the chips were down, the team looked to him and relied on him. he never lost composure, set the tone, played through injury in those playoffs, and the team feeds off that kind of stuff
    You mean he played through the warriors injuries? Quite brave of him.

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    You mean he played through the warriors injuries? Quite brave of him.

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    , didn't do that on the Spurs though. Willing to "limp" through the playoffs to force his way to the Clippers, then "leading" the Clippers to disappointment after disappointment 4 years running.

    He didn't lead , he played for himself and used the teams.

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    , didn't do that on the Spurs though. Willing to "limp" through the playoffs to force his way to the Clippers, then "leading" the Clippers to disappointment after disappointment 4 years running.

    He didn't lead , he played for himself and used the teams.
    In 2019, Nephew understood that he had no choice but to push through whatever pain during the playoffs. Because after pulling the stunt in SA and refusing to play, he would not be able to get a big contract as free agent after 2019 season.

    Luckily for Nephew that with so many injuries with GSW, he managed to win the le and removed doubts on his clutch performance in playoffs as long as he can load manage during regular season.

    Now 4 years later, the doubts are returning.

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    , didn't do that on the Spurs though. Willing to "limp" through the playoffs to force his way to the Clippers, then "leading" the Clippers to disappointment after disappointment 4 years running.

    He didn't lead , he played for himself and used the teams.
    When did i ever praise how he handled his injury with the spurs? He’s a piece of . But he led the raptors to a ring

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    When did i ever praise how he handled his injury with the spurs? He’s a piece of . But he led the raptors to a ring
    Doesn’t make him a leader.

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    Doesn’t make him a leader.
    Ah so that’s where we disagree. If you don’t think leading a team to a le makes you a leader then i guess we just don’t speak the same language

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    Ah so that’s where we disagree. If you don’t think leading a team to a le makes you a leader then i guess we just don’t speak the same language
    Tim wasn't a leader on the '99 team, yet he led us to that le.

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    And this is precisely why the clippers won't win a damned thing. Coaches let one thing slide for one guy and not the others. Feeling like the rules don't apply is how teams fall apart when the going gets tough.

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    Ah so that’s where we disagree. If you don’t think leading a team to a le makes you a leader then i guess we just don’t speak the same language
    I don’t see him leading the team to the le. Lowry and nurse were more leaders on that team.

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    And this is precisely why the clippers won't win a damned thing. Coaches let one thing slide for one guy and not the others. Feeling like the rules don't apply is how teams fall apart when the going gets tough.
    This tbh. You wanna break a group, give privileges to one. x100 in the NBA.

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    Anyone still mad he bailed out on the spurs?

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    And this is precisely why the clippers won't win a damned thing. Coaches let one thing slide for one guy and not the others. Feeling like the rules don't apply is how teams fall apart when the going gets tough.
    This tbh. You wanna break a group, give privileges to one. x100 in the NBA.
    Kawhi showed he's not that guy to be coached like that while he was under the toughest coach in the NBA who has the most freedom to be that way. Not all coaches have the leeway from the owner and GM to coach superstars like that. Most organizations have a revolving door for coaches. I wouldn't judge me too harsh on this, I cannot do any good if I am out of a job. If the Clippers don't win, it's not because Kawhi didn't run laps after an airball. It's because Kawhi didn't suit up for most of the games.

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    Kawhi showed he's not that guy to be coached like that while he was under the toughest coach in the NBA who has the most freedom to be that way. Not all coaches have the leeway from the owner and GM to coach superstars like that. Most organizations have a revolving door for coaches. I wouldn't judge me too harsh on this, I cannot do any good if I am out of a job. If the Clippers don't win, it's not because Kawhi didn't run laps after an airball. It's because Kawhi didn't suit up for most of the games.

    hahaha!

    Pop was already ing mellow and treating Kawhitter with kid gloves -
    that piece of

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    Kawhi showed he's not that guy to be coached like that while he was under the toughest coach in the NBA who has the most freedom to be that way. Not all coaches have the leeway from the owner and GM to coach superstars like that. Most organizations have a revolving door for coaches. I wouldn't judge me too harsh on this, I cannot do any good if I am out of a job. If the Clippers don't win, it's not because Kawhi didn't run laps after an airball. It's because Kawhi didn't suit up for most of the games.
    It can actually be both.

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    Leonard wants special treatment. That is not Spursian but it is not uncommon in NBA franchises as a whole.

    And the whole "leading by example" trope is marketing. People that epitomize preferred behavior are used by leaders to inspire as opposed to inspiring in and of themselves. Some may be inspired by the success of others but man is nothing if not a fickle creature. For everyone who is inspired, there is another who covets. It is leadership that gets them all to toe the line.
    Last edited by FuzzyLumpkins; 08-14-2023 at 09:12 AM.

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    Leonard wants special treatment. That is not Spursian but it is not uncommon in NBA franchises as a whole.

    And the whole "leading by example" trope is marketing. People that epitomize preferred behavior are used by leaders to inspire as opposed to inspiring in and of themselves. Some may be inspired by the success of others but man is nothing if not a fickle creature. For everyone who is inspired, there is another who covets. It is leadership that gets them all to tow the line.
    Toe the line, as in everyone is right on the same line, toes touching it.

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    Toe the line, as in everyone is right on the same line, toes touching it.
    okay. I will fix it. You have anything meaningful to add?

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    okay. I will fix it. You have anything meaningful to add?
    Correct usage of idiom is meaningful, don't you think?

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    Correct usage of idiom is meaningful, don't you think?
    Not when it doesn't affect communication. Did you not understand what I was getting at over a nym?

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