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    It’s sort of astonishing, the amount of denial one is willing to exhibit in order to hold onto one’s ideology. I suppose in the 21st century, with its atomization, isolation and alienation, iden y and belonging are wrapped up in ideology now.

    I’ve lived through the change in climate. It’s hotter than it was when I was a young adult. Back then, it could get really hot, even 105+ hot, but that would last maybe for a few days. When there was a long-lasting high-pressure system, “long-lasting” meant a couple of weeks, not the entire summer, and the heat from the ridge meant it was 98 outside with maybe the aforementioned peak of 105 for a few days.

    Even the cold snaps are warmer. Their impacts are greater in Texas because corruption and malfeasance are greater, but 10 is greater than 0.

    I’ve gone back and checked the data to ensure I remembered it right. I did.

    Since everyone else in the state I know has had the same experience I had of having the climate warm noticeably over a period of a few decades, that means they’re just denying their own experiences in order to maintain that grasp on their belief system. The more reality intervenes, whether on climate or anything else, the more they give up their grasp on reality in order to protect their own egos. The more outlandish the conspiracy theories become. The more they embrace tyranny. The more they embrace violence. Anything to beat back that inevitable loss of self.

    I’d probably still be in the evangelical cult had they not kicked me out for marrying a nonwhite.
    Unfortunately, it’s the very best they have to offer. Delusion is their only skill.

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    Unfortunately, it’s the very best they have to offer. Delusion is their only skill.
    Deceit and delusion are strong political forces capable of stirring violent passions. The GOP relies more and more on demagoguery because its main demographic is shrinking. Political violence and contempt for electoral democracy are becoming more and more normal on the right.
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    It’s interesting how this denial of reality manifests itself in opposition to energy innovation. Like, shouldn’t it kind of cool that we’ve gotten to the point where electric cars can go 300 miles of a charge and recharge 60% in 15-20 minutes? They’re not yet as convenient as cars with internal-combustion engines for road trips, but remembering how crude EV’s were even 25 years ago, isn’t the pace of progress obvious? Isn’t the eventual obsolescence of the internal-combustion engine obvious? EV’s with 600-mile range that recharge in the time it takes to empty one’s bladder and buy a drink are inevitable. What is the attachment to vehicles that we fill up with flammable liquids every week, other than the evidence that society is following those other people’s value system? That the other people might have been right?

    You have people in East Texas trying to do everything they can to stop solar farms on other people’s property. Why, because they oppose cutting down trees? Gee, they don’t seem to have a problem with doing that for a pig farm! No, it’s that solar farms are evidence that society is following those other people’s value system, that the world is moving away from them.

    Anything to stop that loss of dominance. Anything to protect the iden y and ego.

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    They are the living version of fossil fuel.

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    Deceit and delusion are strong political forces capable of stirring violent passions. The GOP relies more and more on demagoguery because its main demographic is shrinking. Political violence and contempt for electoral democracy are becoming more and more normal on the right.
    Ultimately, it ends in nihilism. Better to burn the whole thing and rule over the rubble than to relinquish dominance.

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    Power is all that matters. Not doing anything constructive with the power, not acting in one’s own interest, much less anybody else’s, just power. Really, not even having power. Just feeling powerful. Just having that illusion of control.

    Maslow’s hierarchy of need. Acceptance and belonging (to the tribe) comes before self-esteem. The tribe must be powerful. Denigrate the self in order to elevate the status of the tribe. If the tribe’s belief system falls apart, where else is there to go?

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    Hottest temperature ever recorded in Texas was in 1936.
    While this is another example of your stubborn tendency to rely on small samples instead of trends to distract yourself from realities that contradict your team loyalty, it happens to be a great example of how man impacts warming, so thanks for bringing this up.

    Several factors led to the deadly heat of July 1936:
    • A series of droughts affected the U.S. during the early 1930s. The lack of rain parched the earth and killed vegetation, especially across the Plains states.
    • Poor land management (farming techniques) across the Plains furthered the impact of the drought, with lush wheat fields becoming barren waste lands.
    • Without the vegetation and soil moisture, the Plains acted as a furnace. The climate of that region took on desert qualities, accentuating its capacity to produce heat.
    • A strong ridge of high pressure set up over the west coast and funneled the heat northward across the Upper Midwest and Great Lakes.
    https://www.weather.gov/arx/heat_jul36

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    It’s interesting how this denial of reality manifests itself in opposition to energy innovation. Like, shouldn’t it kind of cool that we’ve gotten to the point where electric cars can go 300 miles of a charge and recharge 60% in 15-20 minutes? They’re not yet as convenient as cars with internal-combustion engines for road trips, but remembering how crude EV’s were even 25 years ago, isn’t the pace of progress obvious? Isn’t the eventual obsolescence of the internal-combustion engine obvious? EV’s with 600-mile range that recharge in the time it takes to empty one’s bladder and buy a drink are inevitable. What is the attachment to vehicles that we fill up with flammable liquids every week, other than the evidence that society is following those other people’s value system? That the other people might have been right?

    You have people in East Texas trying to do everything they can to stop solar farms on other people’s property. Why, because they oppose cutting down trees? Gee, they don’t seem to have a problem with doing that for a pig farm! No, it’s that solar farms are evidence that society is following those other people’s value system, that the world is moving away from them.

    Anything to stop that loss of dominance. Anything to protect the iden y and ego.
    Electric cars are also VASTLY less complicated these days. The en tification of cars means that you have to have a ing computer expert to diagnose vehicles these days.

    You may have noticed the $100+ diagnostic charge for anytime you bring a car into a mechanic.

    Electric vehicles have WAY fewer moving parts. No oil changes, etc.

    At some point, with a good chunk of land, you could have enough solar panels and storage to charge your own vehicle and never even need an energy company, unless you are away from home.

    As to the culture/tribeness, that will be made worse by the fact that gasoline vehicles will have more than one multi-trillion dollar industry paying for propaganda and astro-turf movements.

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    Hottest temperature ever recorded in Texas was in 1936.
    You forgot to add that temperature was also reached in 1994.

    As usual, your post falls into the "stupid" or "dishonest" bucket.





    Do you not understand this is irrelevant? (are you stupid)

    Or do you not care about the truth in global warming caused by humans? (are you dishonest)

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    Hottest temperature ever recorded in Texas was in 1936.
    “Drunkest I’ve ever been was 20 years ago, so that means my liver is fine now”
    -Also Darrin, after his 7th Bud Light Eight Elite.

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    Not only are we super likely to break the record for 100 degree days, looks like 70+ days of 100+ is very much within reach as weather.com's forecast has us at 65 days by September 1st.

    Last edited by baseline bum; 08-18-2023 at 11:37 AM.

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    A Mercedes-Benz EQE Sedan caught fire and burned to a crisp inside a Florida homeowner's garage last week, severely damaging the building.

    The 2023 Mercedes-Benz EQE 350+ Sedan was in the garage when it caught fire on July 19. According to Jennifer Ruotolo, the EV was a loaner from Mercedes-Benz while her own car was getting serviced. She told News4Jax that the luxury electric sedan wasn't even charging when it burst into flames she doesn't own a home charging unit.

    "It was parked in the garage, about 22 hours and then it caught fire. I was at work. About 8:30 and my husband heard a hiss and a pop, and he went into the garage full of smoke. It engulfed in flames and exploded," the Nocatee, Florida resident said.





    https://insideevs.com/news/678343/me...eowner-garage/

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    Gasoline cars are about 60 times as likely to have fires as EV’s, which makes sense because they have tanks full of highly flammable liquid.

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    1. 59 days in 2009
    2. 58 days in 2022
    3. 57 days in 2011
    4. 53 days and counting in 2023 as of August 18th
    5. 41 days in 2013
    6. 36 days in 2020
    6. 36 days in 1998
    8. 33 days in 1948


    Most consecutive days of 100+
    1. 21 days in 1962
    2. 20 days and counting in 2023 as of August 18th (July/August)
    3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
    3. 15 days in 2013
    5. 14 days in 2022
    6. 12 days in 2019
    6. 12 days in 2011



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    Gasoline cars are about 60 times as likely to have fires as EV’s, which makes sense because they have tanks full of highly flammable liquid.
    Darrin and Snakes part of the "yeah but there's that one time" krew

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    they weren't ing blah blah

    they live in 72 degrees , sunny, with a cool ocean breeze 363 days every year -
    of course 85-90 was horrible-

    after i had been living in la for 12-15 years - even I caught myself saying, "man- 72 degrees december 24th - dont feel like christmas - I misss the seasons...oh wait - wtf am i saying?"
    it wasn't 85-90 but I get what you're saying.

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    Gasoline cars are about 60 times as likely to have fires as EV’s, which makes sense because they have tanks full of highly flammable liquid.
    Show us the articles and not just a blanket statement that is common sense but requires certain specific situations to come true.

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    And oil refineries cant produce as much gasoline in the excessive heat.
    Part of the equation of gas prices.

    Its kind of ironic. Fossil fuel feedback loop regulates itself.

    But drill baby drill. And forget about the processing of the oil into usable hydrocarbons. Just dont mention it.
    Today's Trump conservatives deep thinking strikes again.

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    Show us the articles and not just a blanket statement that is common sense but requires certain specific situations to come true.
    As soon as someone shows you you'll run away. You're worthless here except for cheap lols

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    Hottest temperature ever recorded in Texas was in 1936.
    Google tells me this: The hottest temperature ever in Texas was 120 degrees, recorded in Seymour in August 1936 AND Monahans in June 1994.

    Not that either date really tells us much about climate change.

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    World population was 4.5 billion in the early 80s. Now its over 7 billion. Less trees, more cars ect Humans are the AIDs virus to the earth. Thats why the world his hotter and it isnt going to stop.

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    And oil refineries cant produce as much gasoline in the excessive heat.
    Part of the equation of gas prices.

    Its kind of ironic. Fossil fuel feedback loop regulates itself.

    But drill baby drill. And forget about the processing of the oil into usable hydrocarbons. Just dont mention it.
    Today's Trump conservatives deep thinking strikes again.
    Live a week without petroleum of any sort and prove your convictions. No more bottles, no more car, no more clothes, no more everymother ingthing! Do it and lead the way bro instead of constantly crying over nothing whatsoever.

    Today's dumb regressives deep thinking strikes again.
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    Its the sun!

    Mercury receives about 4X as much sunlight compared to Venus because Mercury is about 2X closer. (The inverse square law)
    Mercury ranges in temp at the surface from 800F daytime to -100 F at night. Venus is a fairly CONSTANT 900 F.
    And again Venus is TWICE as far away and gets 1/4 the sunlight compared to Mercury.

    Have a conservative explain this to you. There is one very substantial difference. And it rips to the heart of science illiteracy among conservatives.
    I tried to explain this to a Darrin type tat-calfed, grandmother hating, Trumpster relative and.... nothing...

    "So its not the sun... I will 'think' of something else later"

    Meaning... Let me check my list of denier sites.

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    We have officially tied the alltime record for most consecutive days of 100+ today

    1. 59 days in 2009
    2. 58 days in 2022
    3. 57 days in 2011
    4. 54 days and counting in 2023 as of August 19th
    5. 41 days in 2013
    6. 36 days in 2020
    6. 36 days in 1998
    8. 33 days in 1948


    Most consecutive days of 100+
    1. 21 days and counting in 2023 as of August 19th (July/August)
    1. 21 days in 1962
    3. 15 days in 2023 (July)
    3. 15 days in 2013
    5. 14 days in 2022
    6. 12 days in 2019
    6. 12 days in 2011



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    I tried to explain this to a Darrin type tat-calfed, grandmother hating, Trumpster relative and.... nothing...
    Shut the up already puto

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