View Poll Results: Bring Kawhi Back?

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    Excluding the bad blood from how his exit was handled, even if that was "forgiven", I personally would not want the amount of cap space being eaten up by some guy sitting around in street clothes if he even deigns to sit with his teammates when he is out. My rule for roster construction is no divas and Nephew is one of the original ones.

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    I don't see the benefit of bringing in a chronically injured 33 YO next summer, who can barely crack 50 games played.
    Yeah...I can think of a lot of better ways the Spurs could spend their money.

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    I'd love to see the two sides reconcile and come back together, but the problem for me is that the guy can't stay healthy. And for that reason, I'm out.

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    I'd love to see the two sides reconcile and come back together, but the problem for me is that the guy can't stay healthy. And for that reason, I'm out.
    Minus the injuries, the version of Kawhi that exists now is so different from the Kawhi that played for the Spurs through the 2015 or so. He requires so much coddling and special treatment now that he'd be a terrible fit for team building an iden y and culture around a #1 pick who wants to emulate team players like Tim. I don't think Kawhi wanted to be Lebron's #2, I can't imagine he'd be thrilled being the aging mentor to Wemby.

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    About the only way I can see Number Two wearing a Spurs jersey again is 4 or 5 years from now when he's ring chasing and Wemby is a perennial MVP candidate. And even then I think it would take the highly unlikely combination of him being willing to be a load managed bench player and Pop still being around.

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    About the only way I can see Number Two wearing a Spurs jersey again is 4 or 5 years from now when he's ring chasing and Wemby is a perennial MVP candidate. And even then I think it would take the highly unlikely combination of him being willing to be a load managed bench player and Pop still being around.
    He has two rings and two FMVPs. There is no reason to chase what he already has.

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    He has two rings and two FMVPs. There is no reason to chase what he already has.
    It would be a very unusual sort of ring chasing; the idea would be to win even more rings, not get that elusive first one.

    There could also be an element of seeking redemption and maybe even wearing a Spurs cap into the HOF.

    Admittedly, all of this is quite a stretch. I'm more trying to come up with a plausible scenario where he returns than actually thinking it's at all likely to happen.

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    At the idea that Nephew will be in the league another 4-5 years. It's like folks stopped watching basketball the moment we fell off. Nephew can't make any more meaningful contributions towards a championship run because his body won't allow it. It doesn't matter what concessions a team makes to try to keep him healthy.

    He's incapable.

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    It would be a very unusual sort of ring chasing; the idea would be to win even more rings, not get that elusive first one.

    There could also be an element of seeking redemption and maybe even wearing a Spurs cap into the HOF.

    Admittedly, all of this is quite a stretch. I'm more trying to come up with a plausible scenario where he returns than actually thinking it's at all likely to happen.
    I do wonder if there would be some kind of desire to wrap up as a Spur and try to bury the drama that occurred and go into the HOF as a Spur. He's undoubtedly a HOF player, but he was only in TOR for one season and the 3 seasons he's played with LAC have been so marred with injury. Unless he can piece together a couple of healthy seasons in LA, he'll probably still be best remembered as a Spur, no? And I mean by the bball community at large, not by Spurs fans.

    On the other hand, casuals may have already forgotten he was a Spur.

    I still kind of like the idea of him in that TMac role to close out his career. I'd like to see a happy ending between him, Pop and the Spurs.

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    I do wonder if there would be some kind of desire to wrap up as a Spur and try to bury the drama that occurred and go into the HOF as a Spur. He's undoubtedly a HOF player, but he was only in TOR for one season and the 3 seasons he's played with LAC have been so marred with injury. Unless he can piece together a couple of healthy seasons in LA, he'll probably still be best remembered as a Spur, no? And I mean by the bball community at large, not by Spurs fans.

    On the other hand, casuals may have already forgotten he was a Spur.

    I still kind of like the idea of him in that TMac role to close out his career. I'd like to see a happy ending between him, Pop and the Spurs.
    Independently of the idea itself, it would have to make sense on the court. spurs wouldn't sign him just for the feel good story, assuming that's actually would be one. Would Nephew even be interested? There's a reason he wanted to leave and that's LA...

    I believe some people may be much more romantic and sentimental that he is... I'm not sure he cares that much about how fans felt when he left or regrets anything. He may even still feels he's the good guy in the strory and spurs screwed him. , I'm not sure he cares about the spurs at all... I mean, it's not like it's shared responsabilites or misunderstandings... He deliberately ed up and sent stigma on the franchise to leave in a very low, dirty way, messing up with Manu and TP last years in SA. it's not Barbie and Ken or Sesame Street... Thanks but no thanks.

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    Elliott went to the Hawks and Pistons and then came back a couple years later. Bob Hill did Elliott no favors.
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    Rockets & Horry. Deal was canceled ( health issues)

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    MM isn’t known for being the most informed poster.

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    I don’t think they would resign him. They didn’t re-sign George Hill when they had the chance to. Although, I think the fans would be easy to forgive nephew.

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    At the idea that Nephew will be in the league another 4-5 years. It's like folks stopped watching basketball the moment we fell off. Nephew can't make any more meaningful contributions towards a championship run because his body won't allow it. It doesn't matter what concessions a team makes to try to keep him healthy.

    He's incapable.
    There's actually a lot of people in the league who still think (at least publicly) that Kawhi can still carry a team...if he can stay healthy. That's a huge "if" at this point.

    So while I agree with you, I think there are still GMs/owners out there who think of him as a franchise player. However, I'd guess that pool of folks is dwindling.

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    There's actually a lot of people in the league who still think (at least publicly) that Kawhi can still carry a team...if he can stay healthy. That's a huge "if" at this point.

    So while I agree with you, I think there are still GMs/owners out there who think of him as a franchise player. However, I'd guess that pool of folks is dwindling.
    Anyone who's still of that mindset is an idiot. He's played 0, 52, and 52 games the last 3 seasons. He's still high level when on the floor, but that time is dwindling every season, and he can't ever make it past the second round of the playoffs without his leg practically falling off.

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    There's actually a lot of people in the league who still think (at least publicly) that Kawhi can still carry a team...if he can stay healthy. That's a huge "if" at this point.

    So while I agree with you, I think there are still GMs/owners out there who think of him as a franchise player. However, I'd guess that pool of folks is dwindling.
    He's no better than Zion these days and both in the same space tbh where their potential, if healthy which is a big if, is the only incentive but we all know it'll never pan out to either or staying healthy and in the end they're not on the court 1/2 the season or more at times.

    I can't stand Kawhi but I'm not delusional to think he wouldn't be real special if he wasn't so injury plagued or mentally fragile. Same goes for Zion.

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    MM isn’t known for being the most informed poster.
    I was like 7 when I watched the "beyond the glory" do entary on him, fwiw.... could have sworn I saw him in a Hawks home white and red #32 jersey... but wikipedia tells me you're right.

    I do recall him nonstop complaining about the Michigan weather and that being an Arizona kid his body couldn't take the cold and that he largely blamed living in Michigan as responsible for his kidney failures. Idk, I've lived in Michigan and had no such problem, but I guess to each their own body. He demanded a trade multiple times in his Pistons year, they attempted to swap him to Houston but his kidneys were bad, he stuck it out and then the Spurs got him back the next offseason.

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    Anyone who's still of that mindset is an idiot. He's played 0, 52, and 52 games the last 3 seasons. He's still high level when on the floor, but that time is dwindling every season, and he can't ever make it past the second round of the playoffs without his leg practically falling off.
    He's got two years and about $94MM coming to him over the next two seasons. Maybe he'll just hang 'em up after that. These next two years will probably convince those still believing in him that he's not capable of being a franchise player anymore. He'll of made a sh!t ton of money by then, and should be set for life financially...at least I would hope.

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    I was like 7 when I watched the "beyond the glory" do entary on him, fwiw.... could have sworn I saw him in a Hawks home white and red #32 jersey... but wikipedia tells me you're right.

    I do recall him nonstop complaining about the Michigan weather and that being an Arizona kid his body couldn't take the cold and that he largely blamed living in Michigan as responsible for his kidney failures. Idk, I've lived in Michigan and had no such problem, but I guess to each their own body. He demanded a trade multiple times in his Pistons year, they attempted to swap him to Houston but his kidneys were bad, he stuck it out and then the Spurs got him back the next offseason.
    The weather was a factor, but the biggest reason he hated Detroit was Isaiah Thomas, who virtually froze him out of the offense.

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