Ukraine

[clambake]

Why would we want to appease Putler and what he wants? He did start this in 2014 and given the lack of pushback then, he went on the offensive again.

And no, Putler didn't get what he wanted. He wanted the US and NATO to fold like a cheap lawn chair, which is exactly what you're suggesting they do. But they haven't and won't, and that's having costly repercussions in Russia. There's also geopolitics at play here, not just money.

Heck, the US is getting a major bang for the buck here, considering they haven't had to put troops on the ground.

Remember when trump said putin’s a good guy and that he wasn’t a fan of NATO?

…………and trump tried to extort Ukraine?

…..and putin invaded Ukraine?

[hater]

Remember when trump said putin’s a good guy and that he wasn’t a fan of NATO?

…………and trump tried to extort Ukraine?

…..and putin invaded Ukraine?

He invaded because Joe was in charge

[clambake]

He invaded because Joe was in charge

Uh oh

That means it’s wrong if you said it

[hater]

Uh oh

That means it’s wrong if you said it

As I said he tried to make a deal for 8 years (minsk 2)

He tried to make a deal last minute (european security framework)

He tried to make a deal at sword lenght (kiev surrounded) and like all other times NATO told Ukraine no deal.

So he invaded.

So no. Not wrong.

A mistake? Maybe. But so far. Not even a mistake.

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

[clambake]

As I said he tried to make a deal for 8 years (minsk 2)

He tried to make a deal last minute (european security framework)

He tried to make a deal at sword lenght (kiev surrounded) and like all other times NATO told Ukraine no deal.

So he invaded.

So no. Not wrong.

A mistake? Maybe. But so far. Not even a mistake.

ed around and, well, you know.

He begged for years.

Nothing too low for you

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

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Let us proceed...

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"NEVER SURRENDER!"

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[clambake]

Another interesting aspect to this is how hater and dmx7 both used the term “begging” just now

Must be influencing the “oh poor Putin” angle on the webs


Poor misunderstood begging

[ChumpDumper]

"Crimea by Fall"

"all of Ukraine in 3-5 days"

-- hater

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"all of Ukraine in 3-5 days"

-- hater

20% in 18 months including the Zap Nuclear Plant & the water in the South..

[ElNono]

"Crimea by Fall"

still making up
3-5 days
roads

[ChumpDumper]

He invaded because Joe was in charge

"Putin will not invade Ukraine."

--hater

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20% in 18 months including the Zap Nuclear Plant & the water in the South..

[hater]

20% in 18 months including the Zap Nuclear Plant & the water in the South..

Melitopol, mariupol, bakhmut, crimea


20% of europes largest country by far while whithstanding worst economic war in history.

Not even Nazi germany had those kind of sanctions.

Ford was still dealing with hitler till last minute.

Ce la vi

[hater]

still making up
3-5 days
roads

"Crimea by Fall is now a made up meme"





Todays Salvadorian historians

[ChumpDumper]

"Crimea by Fall is now a made up meme"





Todays Salvadorian historians

your history of being personally wrong

[hater]

your history of being personally wrong

"Budanov predicted on Sept. 30, 2022, that the Ukrainian Armed Forces would enter Crimea by the end of Spring 2023."

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-recla...fKyWQZXbSG7gb_

Wikipedia:
"Kyrylo Oleksiyovych Budanov (Ukrainian: Кирило Олексійович Буданов; born 4 January 1986) is a Ukrainian military leader who is the chief of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine since August 2020.[1"





Chimpistan loves to get ass ed in here

[ChumpDumper]

"Budanov predicted on Sept. 30, 2022, that the Ukrainian Armed Forces would enter Crimea by the end of Spring 2023."

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-recla...fKyWQZXbSG7gb_

Wikipedia:
"Kyrylo Oleksiyovych Budanov (Ukrainian: Кирило Олексійович Буданов; born 4 January 1986) is a Ukrainian military leader who is the chief of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine since August 2020.[1"





Chimpistan loves to get ass ed in here

I didn't say no one ever said that.

I said no one here ever said that.

You said Putin would not invade.

You said Kyiv would be conquered in 3-5 days.

How do you live with being that wrong, hater?

[koriwhat]

Burn it all down already so no more of our tax dollars have to be laundered back into Biden and his cronies pockets.

[ChumpDumper]

lol koriwut cares

[DMX7]

Why would we want to appease Putler and what he wants? He did start this in 2014 and given the lack of pushback then, he went on the offensive again.

And no, Putler didn't get what he wanted. He wanted the US and NATO to fold like a cheap lawn chair, which is exactly what you're suggesting they do. But they haven't and won't, and that's having costly repercussions in Russia. There's also geopolitics at play here, not just money.

Heck, the US is getting a major bang for the buck here, considering they haven't had to put troops on the ground.

Even if we write a blank check to help Ukraine totally humiliate Russia by kicking it 100% out of Ukraine, a major risk remains that Russia then rearms and tries to take Crimea and the Donbas again.

But I don't think most Americans think doing anything like that is bang for the buck.

In fact, the latest CNN polling showed most Americans think we've already done enough in Ukraine. There's no clear end game here that justifies the cost being proposed IMO. It seems like it's just throwing money at the problem and hoping for the best. That's rarely good strategy, if ever.

[ChumpDumper]

Even if we write a blank check to help Ukraine totally humiliate Russia by kicking it 100% out of Ukraine, a major risk remains that Russia then rearms and tries to take Crimea and the Donbas again.

But I don't think most Americans think doing anything like that is bang for the buck.

In fact, the latest CNN polling showed most Americans think we've already done enough in Ukraine. There's no clear end game here that justifies the cost being proposed IMO. It seems like it's just throwing money at the problem and hoping for the best. That's rarely good strategy, if ever.

Roll over and let Putin do whatever he wants. That always works out great for everyone.

[hater]

I didn't say no one ever said that.

I said no one here ever said that.

You said Putin would not invade.

You said Kyiv would be conquered in 3-5 days.

How do you live with being that wrong, hater?

U had no idea who said it. I had to educate your ignorant ass

Chumpanzee

[hater]

Roll over and let Putin do whatever he wants. That always works out great for everyone.

"Whatever he wants"


Russia is losing badly

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Roll over and let Putin do whatever he wants. That always works out great for everyone.

& if Trump were still President you'd be siding Putin.