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    Bird was White when White was right.
    Magic was still Black then.
    I see you support BLM to make things right.

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    I see you support BLM to make things right.
    No. I'm stating facts.

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    No. I'm stating facts.
    It made things right, no?

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    It made things right, no?
    There was nary another tape delayed NBA Finals game, yes.

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    Stop it Bird had great vision and anticipation but Magic is the best passer I ever seen Kidd Bron Stockton Bird others have been elite, magic was the best.
    Jokic s on both of them anyway

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    MJ was a great passer, just never had to resort to it


    All jokes aside I never watched Lebron and marveled at his passing. He's tall and has huge open passing lanes because he's a great scorer

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    Jokic s on both of them anyway
    Zoomer weighs in with his XBox anti-Boomer game talent take.

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    Jokic s on both of them anyway
    Another great passer …
    Luka is too he just dribble to damn much

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    There was nary another tape delayed NBA Finals game, yes.
    Equality of rights to the rescue.

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    Equality of rights to the rescue.
    No. Commerce to the rescue. "We can't have it this way any longer, Red. There is a mound of billions sitting out there for all of us. Just sitting there waiting for us to pick it up. You're in. I ain't asking you, I'm telling you. I'm sending Strom, he's got his orders. Get out of it."

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    Another great passer …
    Luka is too he just dribble to damn much
    Agreed
    Luka needs to learn to play off ball more

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    MJ was a great passer, just never had to resort to it


    All jokes aside I never watched Lebron and marveled at his passing. He's tall and has huge open passing lanes because he's a great scorer
    Lebron is a great passer
    May not be flashy but incredible bb IQ

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    Lebron is a great passer
    May not be flashy but incredible bb IQ
    His a race baiting , the .

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    Lebron is a great passer
    May not be flashy but incredible bb IQ
    He's probably played the most organized ball in American History considering the Era crossover.

    Indeed it is very rare where a Lebron on court decision made me scratch my head. He does tend to strategize for situations later. He doesn't play in 1 speed and eggs on defenses into mistakes.

    Would be interesting to see if he had Luka's young professional upbringing or had to climb the ladder at a Top CBB program in the 80s/90s.

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    No. Commerce to the rescue. "We can't have it this way any longer, Red. There is a mound of billions sitting out there for all of us. Just sitting there waiting for us to pick it up. You're in. I ain't asking you, I'm telling you. I'm sending Strom, he's got his orders. Get out of it."
    True. Treating people equally and properly leads to financial success.

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    He's probably played the most organized ball in American History considering the Era crossover.

    Indeed it is very rare where a Lebron on court decision made me scratch my head. He does tend to strategize for situations later. He doesn't play in 1 speed and eggs on defenses into mistakes.

    Would be interesting to see if he had Luka's young professional upbringing or had to climb the ladder at a Top CBB program in the 80s/90s.
    Agreed, Different contexts and upbringing

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    Kind of feels like the demonizing of Westhead is really over the top this season. While the players hated his offense, I don't think they disliked Westhead himself, other than Magic. This season really makes Westhead look like a prick, and I never got that from Pearlman's book. Just that he coached a terrible offense all the players couldn't stand, especially after it got them knocked out by that crap 81 Rockets team.

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    Stop it Bird had great vision and anticipation but Magic is the best passer I ever seen Kidd Bron Stockton Bird others have been elite, magic was the best.
    I don't think it's even close. Ain't no one I have ever seen who could have run that offense half as well as Magic.

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    Huh? Magic led the league in steals twice … iirc.

    Neither were horrible defenders played good team defense and neither gambled recklessly
    Didn't know that, but it should really only be considered once (81-82) since he only played 37 games in 80-81.

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    ^ havent listened to it yet, found a podcast with Westhead addressing Magic and the firing.
    Think it's at least a decade or so after the fact. So hoping Westhead can be as fair as possible, all the emotion is probably gone out of it.
    Don't think you'll ever get an honest answer from Self Promoting Magic.

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    ^ havent listened to it yet, found a podcast with Westhead addressing Magic and the firing.
    Think it's at least a decade or so after the fact. So hoping Westhead can be as fair as possible, all the emotion is probably gone out of it.
    Don't think you'll ever get an honest answer from Self Promoting Magic.
    Westhead has always sounded bitter about it, saying he's the only coach ever fired on a 5 game winning streak. An offense where every player has one spot he just runs to sounds ridiculous in the NBA, and I trust Pearlman's word a lot more than Westhead's if he was trying to argue that was a legitimate NBA offense.

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    Westhead has always sounded bitter about it, saying he's the only coach ever fired on a 5 game winning streak. An offense where every player has one spot he just runs to sounds ridiculous in the NBA, and I trust Pearlman's word a lot more than Westhead's if he was trying to argue that was a legitimate NBA offense.
    Oh ya I'm hoping Westhead will say in retrospect it might not have been the best offense for that team.
    That the Lakers won in 82 justifies Buss making the change for sure. Was this a rare fairly reffed / no catostrophic injuries to opponent year Finals?

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    True. Treating people equally and properly leads to financial success.
    ...President Trump withstanding, amb.

    ---It went from a barnstorming league nickel & dimeing it persistnetly to shangri-la in one fell swoop. They've never looked back.

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    ...President Trump withstanding, amb.

    ---It went from a barnstorming league nickel & dimeing it persistnetly to shangri-la in one fell swoop. They've never looked back.
    Yup. Same page buddy. Treat everyone the same regardless if you are a billionaire or some fake tough guy. You do the crime you do the time.

    And treating everyone fairly got the league further. Now if they start to treat every team fairly.

  25. #425
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    Oh ya I'm hoping Westhead will say in retrospect it might not have been the best offense for that team.
    That the Lakers won in 82 justifies Buss making the change for sure. Was this a rare fairly reffed / no catostrophic injuries to opponent year Finals?
    Only catastrophic injures I remember in a Finals involving the Lakers in the 80s were to the Lakers: Worthy missing the 83 playoffs with a broken leg and then Byron Scott getting hurt in Riley's training camp before the 89 Finals and Magic tearing a hamstring or something early in Game 2 of the 89 Finals. Too bad the Spurs didn't have Artis in 81-82. Probably would still be heavy underdogs but the 82-83 Spurs came one Artis Gilmore putback from forcing a Game 7 (think he got stripped on the way up) so it would have probably been a compe ive series.

    EDIT: Duh Isiah. Played amazing on that ankle in Game 6 but was a s of himself for Game 7 once that er swelled up.
    Last edited by baseline bum; 09-01-2023 at 09:23 PM.

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