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    Every year, the ticking time bomb of demographics for the Texas GOP gets closer to going off. COVID is killing off old ass GOP voters 4 times faster, while more new Democrats enter voting age.

    Every year, they have to find new ways to suppress votes to keep power. Some fine election, they will lose control of the executive branch of government. I will find that funny.
    That only happens if there are free and fair elections. Thus, the efforts to do away with them. Power is all that matters. Like SnakeBoy says, whatever it takes.

    It’s sort of silly, I guess, to try to keep playing democracy at this point. If you’re trying to play chess, and your opponent’s response to putting them in check is to flip over the board and punch you in the face, what’s the point of trying to put all the pieces back on the board where they were like it never happened? You’re not in a chess match anymore.

    You can’t peacefully have a representative-democratic cons utional republic if only one side wants to have one. You can’t just blame all this on Trump being some kind of inscrutable snake charmer putting them in a spell anymore. The open-eyed strategy of the old-stock Anglo-Celtic population in the face of changing demographics is installation of a right-wing dictatorship behind the neutered facade of the old republic. Trump is beloved because he alone will deliver that.

    Whatever it takes.

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    boomersfair would be ting his depends and rageposting on ST nonstop if the Dems did the same the GQP does. hypocrisy at its finest. none of you clown ass losers actually care about democracy

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    Democrats will never do what Republicans do because they’re still a liberal party. The Republican Party is not conservative anymore, but rather right-wing populist. The will of the people is not manifested in a right-wing populist movement through representative democratic elections. The principle of representation within the in-group is reduced down to a single charismatic leader who in himself embodies not just the will of the people, but also their hopes and dreams. He defines who is Us and who is Them.

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    Once a polity reaches this point, you cannot reason people out of it. Once a tribe is defined, loyalty to the tribe is hard-wired. Belonging to a tribe is a more basic need than self-esteem. In prehistoric tribes, disloyalty to the tribe could lead to its being defeated by a rival tribe, which meant murder, rape, starvation, dissolution of the tribe. Banishment from the tribe probably meant starvation and death.

    Tribal loyalty trumps reason.

    Tribal truth trumps objective truth.

    The most basic principle of politics is Us and Them.

    Red and Blue are separate nations with separate tribal truths.

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    Democrats want to talk about the brotherhood of man, about how interconnected we all are, how we all have to work together across national boundaries to solve global problems.

    These are the words of the educated few, for whom reason trumps tribal truths. It is not how the great many think.

    You can’t unify people against big structural problems or medium-term environmental threats. You can only unify people against Them. Since Us versus Them is an internal fight in the United States, there is zero hope of going back to the status quo ante 2016.

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    Republicans keep talking about impeaching Biden... why don't you do it already? Before the DNC Convention would be ideal so that we can line up a better replacement.

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    Once a polity reaches this point, you cannot reason people out of it. Once a tribe is defined, loyalty to the tribe is hard-wired. Belonging to a tribe is a more basic need than self-esteem. In prehistoric tribes, disloyalty to the tribe could lead to its being defeated by a rival tribe, which meant murder, rape, starvation, dissolution of the tribe. Banishment from the tribe probably meant starvation and death.

    Tribal loyalty trumps reason.

    Tribal truth trumps objective truth.

    The most basic principle of politics is Us and Them.

    Red and Blue are separate nations with separate tribal truths.
    Yah, team sports.

    Lol at how many here have the mugshot poster of Trump on their wall.

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    Republicans keep talking about impeaching Biden... why don't you do it already? Before the DNC Convention would be ideal so that we can line up a better replacement.
    Amen.

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    I'm good with whatever needs to be done to eradicate the leftists cult.

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    I'm good with whatever needs to be done to eradicate the leftists cult.
    This is what I mean ^^^. Democracy used to be off the table, not anymore.

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    This is what I mean ^^^. Democracy used to be off the table, not anymore.
    well, not since Trump beat Clinton. The Left threatened to blow him up Day 1. "We're only going to do this, take Democracy off the table, for this man, after he is gone we'll get on with our democracy, but until then we're going to threaten to blow him up, shoot him to death and burn the Western seaboard to the ground."

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    This is what I mean ^^^. Democracy used to be off the table, not anymore.
    Sure bro, sure... LMAO The tired ol' trite of leftists, "DeMoCRaCY!!!"

    LMAO As if the left is really all about our "democracy" as they burn down every ins ution one by one and use our laws to go after their political opponents like those commies before them. Give me a ing break about yalls bs democracy cries.

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    Democrats will never do what Republicans do because they’re still a liberal party.
    Yeah because censoring, one of many manifestations of the regressives, has always been a liberal concept...

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    Sure bro, sure... LMAO The tired ol' trite of leftists, "DeMoCRaCY!!!"

    LMAO As if the left is really all about our "democracy" as they burn down every ins ution one by one and use our laws to go after their political opponents like those commies before them. Give me a ing break about yalls bs democracy cries.
    Democrats burned down elections?


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    Democrats burned down elections?

    kori is right, Dumper. You wouldn't accept Democracy when it elected Trump, but now you want Democracy to reign again.

    Uh, uh. Nope.

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    Sure bro, sure... LMAO The tired ol' trite of leftists, "DeMoCRaCY!!!"
    OP is straight out bragging about fixing elections to keep the minority in power. Doesn't really get any more obvious than that, tbh...

    LMAO As if the left is really all about our "democracy" as they burn down every ins ution one by one and use our laws to go after their political opponents like those commies before them. Give me a ing break about yalls bs democracy cries.
    The left did what? This is pretty rich coming from the "law and order" party. I guess it's until they break the law...

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    OP is straight out bragging about fixing elections to keep the minority in power. Doesn't really get any more obvious than that, tbh...



    The left did what? This is pretty rich coming from the "law and order" party. I guess it's until they break the law...
    kori is right, El, you running from that truth isn't the answer. But by all means keep running. I couldn't stop you for money, marbles, nor chalk. You thoroughly ed over Trump and his Presidency and you've been running ever since, trying maniacally to square your sins with the house. It cannot be done. And what's so tragic is you knew it when you was ing him and that Presidency, but you figured you was en led and there was no stopping you.

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    lmao at democrats talking about democracy,,,isnt this the same group screaming to expand the supreme court because they dont like the conservative edge?,,,,STFU already,,,,you are dirty s just like republicans,,,,climb down off your holier than thou pedestal,,,,,

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    lmao at democrats talking about democracy,,,isnt this the same group screaming to expand the supreme court because they dont like the conservative edge?,,,,STFU already,,,,you are dirty s just like republicans,,,,climb down off your holier than thou pedestal,,,,,
    Glad you came to terms and agree that republicans are dirty s.

    Apologies and your bent knee accepted.

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    lmao at democrats talking about democracy,,,isnt this the same group screaming to expand the supreme court because they dont like the conservative edge?,,,,STFU already,,,,you are dirty s just like republicans,,,,climb down off your holier than thou pedestal,,,,,
    SCOTUS is not a democracy and has had a varying number of justices all along. Boomers just got handout after handout and didn't learn about .

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    That only happens if there are free and fair elections. Thus, the efforts to do away with them. Power is all that matters. Like SnakeBoy says, whatever it takes.

    It’s sort of silly, I guess, to try to keep playing democracy at this point. If you’re trying to play chess, and your opponent’s response to putting them in check is to flip over the board and punch you in the face, what’s the point of trying to put all the pieces back on the board where they were like it never happened? You’re not in a chess match anymore.

    You can’t peacefully have a representative-democratic cons utional republic if only one side wants to have one. You can’t just blame all this on Trump being some kind of inscrutable snake charmer putting them in a spell anymore. The open-eyed strategy of the old-stock Anglo-Celtic population in the face of changing demographics is installation of a right-wing dictatorship behind the neutered facade of the old republic. Trump is beloved because he alone will deliver that.

    Whatever it takes.
    So what's the solution, John Brown gun clubs?

    I still think the fascists are so unpopular they could get buried at the polls and fairly soon. 2022 was an historic flop for the party out of power. GOP is running on the same they lost on.

    Even so, electoral defeat for white power fascists isn't likely to quell a strategia della tensione or Irish style troubles.

    I think it could go either way. The highly successful prosecution of J6 seditionists is encouraging. If Trump goes down for the same, the state might be emboldened to mop up Trumpist terrorism.
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    Trying to remain in power after losing an election should have life changing consequences, even for fellow travelers. and especially for government officials who supported it. The precedent should have been the 1861 Congress that refused to seat secessionists.

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    Why did so many supporters of Trump's attempted autocoup seek pardons after J6, before Trump left office?

    They knew they were housing.

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    The left did what? This is pretty rich coming from the "law and order" party. I guess it's until they break the law...
    Yeah that crowd is dumb as . And?

    I'm still a-ok with whatever takes out that leftist party "by any means possible" amirite?

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    lmao at democrats talking about democracy,,,isnt this the same group screaming to expand the supreme court because they dont like the conservative edge?,,,,STFU already,,,,you are dirty s just like republicans,,,,climb down off your holier than thou pedestal,,,,,
    Useful idiots is all they are unfortunately.

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