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    I'm not so sure she does still work for spurs after reviewing her professional pages

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    Like every ing thing they did this summer was predicated on two things: 1) growing into the team they need to become around Wemby, 2) win and be compe ive.

    I think y'all got some brain damage.
    What y'all are you talking about? So weird. Anyway. Your first point is about growing. Your second point is win and be compe ive. The first point I agree with because that's what they have been signalling but it's contradictory to acknowledge the team is growing and then to expect them to win a lot of games. And you're accusing others of brain damage?

    Or is your argument about effort and not results? I'm curious how many games think they will win.

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    At some point you guys need to actually list moves you think qualify for "make a push for winning games" that was available and made sense this summer. Like, just one move. One single move that was real, and actual, and would have moved the needle sensibly to win games this year. Sign Fred Van Vleet to $50 million dollars? Dillon Brooks? Please, for 's sake, don't say that hillbilly in Los Angeles.
    According to you the team doesn't need to make any changes to win now. Are you changing your argument?

    But you think a team of young promising players with a bounty of picks couldn't make a move if they wanted to?

    They want to go slow and not rush the process, without caring how much they win or lose this year. That's why they aren't making moves.

    I think you think the team is better than they are.

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    According to you the team doesn't need to make any changes to win now. Are you changing your argument?

    But you think a team of young promising players with a bounty of picks couldn't make a move if they wanted to?

    They want to go slow and not rush the process, without caring how much they win or lose this year. That's why they aren't making moves.

    I think you think the team is better than they are.
    Tell me what the team should have done. It's easy to be a whiny baby claiming the team could have made good changes to 'win now.' What are they? Stop running your mouth. Give me actual moves that make sense. Do it.

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    Tell me what the team should have done. It's easy to be a whiny baby claiming the team could have made good changes to 'win now.' What are they? Stop running your mouth. Give me actual moves that make sense. Do it.
    do you think the spurs had the best offseason they possibly could have?

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    I'm not so sure she does still work for spurs after reviewing her professional pages
    Tried looking too.
    All Google comes up with is Former Spurs Psy.

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    do you think the spurs had the best offseason they possibly could have?
    Only a Homer will believe that.

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    do you think the spurs had the best offseason they possibly could have?
    Lol, we're not talking 'perfection' or whatever. You're moving the goalposts. Can you guys for once give ONE SINGLE IDEA about a move YOU think should have been made? Like, ONE IDEA? A single one.

    They don't even have to be good ones. Any ones at all. Just give me: "We should have traded for Chris Paul" or "A first round draft pick for Tyus Jones."

    ANYTHING.

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    Tell me what the team should have done. It's easy to be a whiny baby claiming the team could have made good changes to 'win now.' What are they? Stop running your mouth. Give me actual moves that make sense. Do it.
    I'm not arguing the team should have made moves, so there's no incentive for me to concoct trades I'm not clamoring for. I'm saying I don't expect them to win a lot of games like you seem to be saying. So how many games do you think the current team will win?

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    Lol, we're not talking 'perfection' or whatever. You're moving the goalposts. Can you guys for once give ONE SINGLE IDEA about a move YOU think should have been made? Like, ONE IDEA? A single one.

    They don't even have to be good ones. Any ones at all. Just give me: "We should have traded for Chris Paul" or "A first round draft pick for Tyus Jones."

    ANYTHING.
    Unless you can come up with one, that means you think they operated perfectly

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    Unless you can come up with one, that means you think they operated perfectly
    Lol, bruh, I'm the one who's fine with the offseason. It's you and rascal and other dolts who keep freaking out they didn't "do enough to win this year," yet fail to explain what moves those are.

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    People who already had a low opinion of the team’s talent will continue to have low opinion about the team and the team’s future. This should be no surprise to anyone. Unless the team had done moves that were out of character, they were never going to be pleased.

    The Spurs value continuity not only because they because it’s safer to do than the alternative of being locked into a position with little flexibility, but because they believe that with time, it yields better results. There is also no reason to believe that because a team has chosen continuity, that they will not be a better team OR that all that will be expected is incremental growth. Things change fast in the NBA, and unexpected things happen.

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    Lol, bruh, I'm the one who's fine with the offseason. It's you and rascal and other dolts who keep freaking out they didn't "do enough to win this year," yet fail to explain what moves those are.
    Crazy that you can’t come up with a single thing they could have done better

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    Unless you can come up with one, that means you think they operated perfectly
    No NBA team ever operates perfectly. You eventually do what you can, giving the context, cir stances, concurrence and your agenda. And the best moves are the ones you don't make. you don't want to be HOU giving riciculous contracts to Brooks or VanFleet. that's not the spurs, specially with you young guys on cheap contracts they wanna evaluate more and that could do the job for much less, allowing you to sign a second star and elite role players.

    There's no real impactful move SA could have done that would have made real sense. Sign Lopez? He was always staying in MIL. And offer sheet to Reaves? LA was always matching.

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    Crazy that you can’t come up with a single thing they could have done better
    Are you brain damaged? LMAO what the man. I truly think you have brains that are falling out of your ears. You don't even have the vaguest notion of what we're talking about here. You're like a drooling moron.

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    Are you brain damaged? LMAO what the man. I truly think you have brains that are falling out of your ears. You don't even have the vaguest notion of what we're talking about here. You're like a drooling moron.
    Oh. Ok.

    I’ll clarify.

    you put the burden on somebody to name a specific move the spurs could have made to improve the offseason. As though absent that specific move, they’d have no point.

    it’s a bad argument. Because i can flip it to you the way i did

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    Oh. Ok.

    I’ll clarify.

    you put the burden on somebody to name a specific move the spurs could have made to improve the offseason. As though absent that specific move, they’d have no point.

    it’s a bad argument. Because i can flip it to you the way i did


    Bruh. I said I'm okay with the offseason. Therefore, like, I'm totally fine with the moves made. Why the would I be on the clock to give you examples of good moves when they've already been made?

    And then you say they didn't do enough. So... what the are your brililant ideas? It's actually in bent on YOU to come up with what you actually think would have been the right things to do.

    And if I have to say something, the weird with the SRPs this draft still confuses me and I might not have picked Sissoko. But I trust what they did and think he has a lot of potential.

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    Yeah, I don't think spurraider21 is expecting perfection. He's referencing the black or white comment to me. Mr. Body is who predicted a vastly improved team and hasn't provided details or numbers, yet considers everyone else to be a moron.

    Here's what I expect:

    The team will win somewhere between 29 and 34 games.

    Pop probably won't play VW more than 65 games.

    They're going in with low expectations and not trying to push VW too hard.

    It's all about player evaluation, specifically of Devin and keldon to see who they want to build around in the coming years.

    And after that then trades will likely happen before all the draft picks start coming due.

    To me, that's reasonable.

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    Yeah, I don't think spurraider21 is expecting perfection. He's referencing the black or white comment to me. Mr. Body is who predicted a vastly improved team and hasn't provided details or numbers, yet considers everyone else to be a moron.

    Here's what I expect:

    The team will win somewhere between 29 and 34 games.

    Pop probably won't play VW more than 65 games.

    They're going in with low expectations and not trying to push VW too hard.

    It's all about player evaluation, specifically of Devin and keldon to see who they want to build around in the coming years.

    And after that then trades will likely happen before all the draft picks start coming due.

    To me, that's reasonable.
    They could have done that last year. Sochan went on a 7 game tear in January, averaging 18/6/3, shooting 11/21 on 3s. For his trouble he got shut down for the rest of the month, played a few games early in Feb so he would be eligible for the rookie sop re game, played a few more n February, 6 in March, and zero in April.

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    They could have done that last year. Sochan went on a 7 game tear in January, averaging 18/6/3, shooting 11/21 on 3s. For his trouble he got shut down for the rest of the month, played a few games early in Feb so he would be eligible for the rookie sop re game, played a few more n February, 6 in March, and zero in April.
    The Spurs only won two games in January, one against the tanking Pistons and another to the Nets. So Sochan's 7 game stretch did little to make the team win.

    Spurs picked up several wins against other tanking teams. The last week of the season they picked up two against Portland and Dallas.
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    Teams will need at least one pass against Wemby to figure out how to guard the team, and it may still be hard. If this is the real defense - at least among the starters - their floor goes up considerably. It's a small sample size and most of the games were against incomplete teams (and preseason) but the defense looked excellent.

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    part of the problem of tracking most common lineups is how many games everybody missed. keldon only played 2/5 games, sochan played 3/5, etc

    and even then, 24 minutes is quite a small sample

    oddly, it was split among the worst and best opponents we've had (rockets with FVV/Green/Brooks out, and Warriors with everyone heathy playing). but sochan holding up admirably against the warriors backcourt is extremely encouraging. he was able to do that in spots last year, but to do it as his primary defensive task is very different

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    sheesh. The problem will be when some of them sit. I think our bench is decent, but will probably be a net negative most of the time

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    sheesh. The problem will be when some of them sit. I think our bench is decent, but will probably be a net negative most of the time
    As long as the old man isn't doing full on hockey subs, they should be fine staggering starters mins with bench guys. Will take a good amount of games to find the right combo but right now I'm thinking Tre should a lot of time with DV/Wemby and Malaki should be paired up with Keldon/Sochan a lot.

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