Shams: Spurs Waive Josh Primo

[tonight...you]

Eh. It's over and done with.
She got hers and he will still be getting his if he can keep his sausage in his pants in hotels and in front of medical professionals.
I'm a little skeptical, but we'll see.

Nobody's lives have been destroyed... yet.
He ain't on this team and probably will not amount to much anyways.

. Maybe he does and even then I won't care. This ordeal gives no reason, as of this moment, for Spurs fans to stress over any longer IMO.
Unless you just enjoy stressing out over the trivialities of things that have nothing to do with you, which seems weird.

[ChumpDumper]

Then she failed her professional duties by not moving her patient to a doctor equipped to handle his condition.

She tried. That's when the Spurs dropped the ball. They're the ones responsible. They admitted it. Why can't you?

At once some are making a smaller and bigger deal than this actually is.

Making it a smaller deal than it is WRT the Spurs as an employer: The Spurs had to fire him, compensate the victim and reform their internal procedures. Full Stop. Nothing more or less to be done there.

Making a a bigger deal than it is: The actual exposure is a misdemeanor in Texas. Considering that and Primo's assumed verifiable ongoing therapy and penalties for other offenses, the NBA's decision is fairly routine.

[BacktoBasics]

She tried. That's when the Spurs dropped the ball. They're the ones responsible. They admitted it. Why can't you?

It’s still dereliction of duty. I agree the organization dropped the ball. She did the right thing going to them. That still doesn’t absolve her of ethical and professional responsibilities.

If a cardiologist finds that the problem is actually a lung infection does the cardiologist continue heart treatment like nothing happened simply because administration didn’t take action? No. They refuse to continue treatment because that is their ethical and professional responsibility. The cardiologist isn’t going to return to treat the patient 9 more times.

[ChumpDumper]

It’s still dereliction of duty.

Simply no.

The Spurs were paying for his treatment. She made her recommendations for treatment that the Spurs ignored. She tried to continue the job she was hired to do. It's the Spurs' fault. Not the victim's.

[MultiTroll]

She has an ethical and professional obligation that transcends her employer. Go ask any medical professional. It’s why we should listen to our doctors about the care we receive and not a bunch of geriatric republicans.

Per you she had to quit her position if the Spurs did not move him to a doctor.
And they didn't.

She has 4 kids so of course you are ethically going to pay her bills until she gets set up with another pro sports team gig in the area.

[BacktoBasics]

Simply no.

The Spurs were paying for his treatment. She made her recommendations for treatment that the Spurs ignored. She tried to continue the job she was hired to do. It's the Spurs' fault. Not the victim's.

As stated by previous posters. She was not equipped to provided care for his condition. Yet she continued to do so. That is dereliction of duty.

I hope your cardiologist doesn’t take your advice. Simply because they’re on a hospital or clinics payroll.

[BacktoBasics]

Per you she had to quit her position if the Spurs did not move him to a doctor.
And they didn't.

She has 4 kids so of course you are ethically going to pay her bills until she gets set up with another pro sports team gig in the area.

So she has kids and that’s grounds to unethically continue treating a patient.

I do understand that quitting isn’t a favorable choice but that’s the ethical and responsible duties you take on as a licensed doctor.

She should have refused. If they fire her she would still have been in the same position from a legal standpoint.

Do you want your cardiologist to continue treating you when you really need a pulmonary specialist simply because the hospital who employs them failed to take action?

Your answer better be a resounding, Yes. Lungs be damned.

[Dejounte]

“I’m not victim blaming but here are all the ways the perpetrator wouldn’t have done what he did if the victim just did this.”

+also ignores the other women who were victimized

[ChumpDumper]

As stated by previous posters. She was not equipped to provided care for his condition. Yet she continued to do so.

No. She tired to do her sports performance job she was hired to do by the Spurs.

[exstatic]

There's enough wiggle room and grey area with the case for BTB to question the narrative with the therapist. I'm not saying I have the same conviction but it's not outrageous or anything. I remember many people questioning her character when she hired that grifter lawyer and when Pop spoke out on the situation in a press conference. It seems like a group think has set in. I see BTB questioning her professional ethics not her gender. It's a legitimate conversation to have.

She wasn’t the only person flashed. There were two other instances that had nothing to do with her, in two different states. To fixate on her, and trash her is the worst kind of misogyny.

[Spurs Homer]

Weinergate: Blaming the Victim

now on spurstalk!

[BacktoBasics]

She wasn’t the only person flashed. There were two other instances that had nothing to do with her, in two different states. To fixate on her, and trash her is the worst kind of misogyny.

All the more reason that she should have moved the patient to appropriate treatment. If she did her job she might not have seen his in the first place let alone 9 more times.

She went back for more . Then leveraged it on behalf of legal threats only to say “no hard feelings, I’m thrilled to go back and revisit all this imaginary trauma. Thank you kind organization. Can I have another go at it. Can’t wait to serve my enablers on the job again.”

Suggested by no sexual assault therapist ever.

[Dejounte]

She wasn’t the only person flashed. There were two other instances that had nothing to do with her, in two different states. To fixate on her, and trash her is the worst kind of misogyny.

That should have been my point number three. All this is going over his head and it’s quite sad to see.

[MultiTroll]

As stated by previous posters. She was not equipped to provided care for his condition. Yet she continued to do so. That is dereliction of duty.

False.
She was not treating his flashing.
She was treating his performance as a Spur.
She continued to treat his performance as a Spur as directed by her employer the Spurs.

[koriwhat]

That should have been my point number three. All this is going over his head and it’s quite sad to see.

It's because no matter how much virtue signaling, over other bs, B2B does he/she has no real principles or a spine to speak of.

[The Truth #6]

I think it is a complicated situation with some unknowns as they settled behind closed doors. There is a lot of guesswork involved here by everyone, including me. Most of it is known enough and isn't disputed. But the multiple incidents of abuse opens up more questions. Also there are three sides to this, not just a perpetrator and a victim, there's also the Spurs who no one wants to blame because we are fans of the team. This was not a typical client and therapist relationship, because the Spurs are actually in charge of both of them. Personally I don't blame the victim in any obvious way. If I had to guess I'll put more blame on the Spurs for letting this happen so often and get so out of hand. As for the therapist's work with Primo, no I don't think she was treating his perversion. But there should be an acknowledgement of it but we don't know those details. And so if some other mental health issue arises in their sessions I do think it is weird if it just got swept under the rug. It would be like going to a cardiologist to treat you for atrial fibrillation and then it's discovered that you have a tricuspid valve murmur and you say no I don't treat tricuspid valves and ignore it even though it's part of your specialty. But again, there are a lot of unknowns so we can't attribute blame to anyone conclusively other than Primo, but wondering abot it is reasonable, even if it appears distasteful.

[cd98]

He was mostly eh on the court, but every so often Primo flashed talent.

[ismael-robert]

She owns TWO mental health practices, she'd be fine without spurs. She's a PhD psychologist trained in general to treat all mental health conditions...she just happens to specialize in sports performance but to act like she can't treat a sexual addiction is probably a Lil too far...profesional athletes are probably highly susceptible to sexual addiction due to their build and affluence so she likely needs to be equipped to keep their minds focused on their profession

[ismael-robert]

And let's not forget she's still married, her husband is in film industry so yeah they more than fine

[scott]

As stated by previous posters. She was not equipped to provided care for his condition. Yet she continued to do so. That is dereliction of duty.

I hope your cardiologist doesn’t take your advice. Simply because they’re on a hospital or clinics payroll.

If you show your to your cardiologist 11 times, the cardiologist doesn't have an obligation to find you a shrink. Get a ing clue dude.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

“I’m not victim blaming but here are all the ways the perpetrator wouldn’t have done what he did if the victim just did this.”

+also ignores the other women who were victimized

pretty much.

And it's not surprising which posters have this exact mindset, tbh.

[ambchang]

The Minnesota hotel maid failed at her job by not referring sausage to a shrink.

[The Truth #6]

In reality, the Spurs tried to get a compe ive edge by utilizing a sports therapist, which is still a good idea if it can improve free throw percentages or whatever, but they got pulled into a morass of legal and ethical problems because of Primo flashing and the Spurs not really knowing how to handle mental health issues, which they shouldn't have been putting themselves in the position to take responsibility for in the first place unless they really want to get involved all the way.

If they really want their players to get mental health therapy, real mental health therapy that DeRozan was likely suggesting, they need to also somehow take themselves out of the equation. Mental health issues are vague and pervasive and individuals don't need a corporation dictating their mental health treatment. And, why would anyone share that sort of personal stuff if it just gets back to their bosses? Obviously they weren't doing real mental health therapy but if they were leaning into it, they need to be aware of the risks and yes the vulnerable position they are putting their therapists in who have no real authority in this dynamic when they should have at least 50%.

The Spurs put the therapist in an awkward situation for ethically having to take some responsibility for the client's mental health issues. Therapists have licensing boards with rules, regulations, ethical guidelines that are there to protect the clients, which in this case would be Primo. Therapists aren't supposed to fight back even if attacked but to deflect and protect. I work with therapist everyday. Every year I have to do training how to handle abuse from clients, even if they are trying to punch you, you are trained to mitigate any harm the client may create. You don't punch back and I've never heard of a therapist suing a client. From an optics standpoint she should have just sued the Spurs.

That's my $0.02.

[BacktoBasics]

If you show your to your cardiologist 11 times, the cardiologist doesn't have an obligation to find you a shrink. Get a ing clue dude.

Stop seeing the client after the first time.

[MultiTroll]

If she did her job she might not have seen his in the first place let alone 9 more times.

Now it's the therapists fault Primo flashed the 1st time.
FFS you're lowering your already low pathetic takes.