I think from a physical standpoint, Wemby physically compares favorably to Jabbar. 7-3 to Jabbar's 7-2. Both right around 230 with 8 foot wingspans. Both are quick and fluid. Jabbar may be a better leaper but if so not by much.
They've even given Wemby goons like Collins and Sochan to Kareem's Washington and Rambis.
That would insinuate Wemby will win AT LEAST 5 les and have a highly productive 19 year nba career and we would compete for les virtually all 19 of them.
So no... probably not.
Like if Wemby made 10 all nba teams in a spurs Jersey...which is phenomenal 1st ballet HOF stuff...he'd still be 5 shy of how many all nba teams Tim Duncan made
You are forgetting Timmy had 4 years of College. Wemby is just 19 and already very skilled to potentially get double-double and 2-3 blks a night. And by the time he gets to Timmy’s rookie age, Wemby would’ve had a good headstart in stats and experience.That would insinuate Wemby will win AT LEAST 5 les and have a highly productive 19 year nba career and we would compete for les virtually all 19 of them.
So no... probably not.
Like if Wemby made 10 all nba teams in a spurs Jersey...which is phenomenal 1st ballet HOF stuff...he'd still be 5 shy of how many all nba teams Tim Duncan made
Granted Wemby doesn’t have a DRob. But I think Sochan will be special, plus Vassell would be a prolific scorer, in addition to the seemingly very deep bench. I think they’ll be good fast and ultimately a championship team in 2-3 years. Wemby would be 21-22. It’s just a healthy comparison, but I think Wemby would have a very good headstart to possibly pass Timmy
Last edited by John B; 10-05-2023 at 12:29 AM.
A healthy comparison? Lmfao. Let him win one championship first. Damn.
I didn’t say Wemby is better than Timmy. I said he has a good chance of possibly passing Timmy as Spurs’ GOAT and even All-Time PF. I even said it’s premature. But if what we can expect from Wemby is true then why not? Already Wemby has a headstart at a younger age entering the NBA. I love Timmy, 2nd only to Manu, but as a Spur, you’d wish Wemby all the best, even better than Spurs all time greatest. I don’t think Timmy would mind a bit.
Last edited by John B; 10-05-2023 at 08:35 AM.
It’s difficult to have teams build dynasties with todays cap. The spurs lucked out on multiple fronts with a star like duncan with insane longevity and loyalty to the team. Obviously the spurs worked with him to manage his minutes and created an environment that enticed him to stay.
On top of that we got gems in Parker and ginobili with late picks who were also loyal to the team and got reasonable contracts.
To expect the spurs will get anything close to five les just because we got wemby is unreasonable. A player like Lebron got four and that is with him jumping to multiple teams to do so.
Wemby is one piece. A huge piece. But there are still many pieces that are required to go from a 22-win team to winning a le. Let alone multiple.
I’d be happy if the spurs can win one during the wemby era.
Championship? How about let him play one actual NBA game first?
I was working on the premise that IF the expectations of Wemby are true, he has a good chance of surpassing Timmy, nothing more. So lighten up
Wemby might have a head start but Tim walked into a much better team. The team he walked into was a veteran playoff team ready to win it all. The team Wemby walking into don't even have a starting point guard yet. When Timmy walked in David, a first ballet HOF in his own right, was already in the building. Uh....who is the HOF we got now to greate Wemby at the door?
Getting the parkers and manu's is the hardest part tbh, cause you got to find those guys or get lucky. Those are your bridge guys that get you from era (Duncan) to era (kawhi) and you can ring in that process (2014).
Ultimately that is what will be the end of GS. They had the chance to do that (Wisman) and whiffed ( probably should have taken Lamelo ). They going to be bad for a LONG time when Steph retires or is considerably diminished.
It helps if your bridge guys are 1st ballot hof in they own right as well, like ours.
I did mention Timmy had DRob. But I’m talking about firstly, stats. Have you seen this guy? 7’5” with skills. He could average 30-20-4 blocks a night. He is going to get stronger and thus better, and I said IF all things were true about people’s expectations of Wemby. Secondly like Timmy, Wemby is with a great organization who recently prolonged 3 hofers’ careers. Spurs ulative knowledge plus modern science just going to help Wemby. With all Spurs experience, taking care of players, knowing how to win, all these help Wemby. He couldn’t be in a better team and better situation. And with that I think he could be in a position to be one of the best, and that includes surpassing the great Tim Duncan
Depends on what you mean by "surpassing". If you mean more les, more all stars, more all nba, more all defensive, more mvp's, more finals mvp's. No. I think the chances of that happening are as close to absolute 0 as they can be without being absolute 0. I think you are severely underrating Timmy's nba accomplishments. Timmy was so good for so long the only way for virtually any nba player to "surpass" Timmy is to borderline emulate his career. Wemby will need a Tony type player for a long time. He will need a manu type player for a long time. At the end of his career he will need a Kawhi type player. Is Gregg with two g's going to coach another 19 years? I do not think so, so then who is going to be Wemby's all time great coach when he in year 9, 10, 11, 12? Is Brian Wright the next RC Buford who will do a great job putting the pieces around here? No I don't think he is. He can't even consistently pick players who can keep there s in their pants and I am supposed to believe he can architect AT LEAST 5 championship teams?
If expectations are what we're going off of, he has a good shot at being the GOAT.I was working on the premise that IF the expectations of Wemby are true, he has a good chance of surpassing Timmy, nothing more. So lighten up
There’s a possibility is all I’m saying. It’s hard to see anyone surpassing Timmy because we watched him battled those championships, especially the 5th ring with the Beautiful Game against all odds. But it’s going to happen if all expectations of Wemby come true. The kid is off NBA 2K24. He will shatter a lot of records, and that would include Timmy’s as GOAT PF.
Will he shoot over 30% from 3?
How does current day Victor compares to 19yo Tim?
- Victor is the better shooter with more range, more versatility, a three point shot, better free throw shooting.
- Timmy was the better post player.
- Both are incredible defenders, Timmy probably was the better rebounder and while both have incredible shot blocking instincts, I think Victor is the better shot blocker by a tad (better physical tools: height, reach, lateral quickness & soccer goalie training).
- Victor already played for years against grown men and was by far the best player in the French league last season, in many categories.
- Apparently Jerry West said Tim might have been the 1st pick in the 1995 draft had he declared, there wasn't that much buzz around him that early though.
- Victor is widely regarded as one of the best prospects in NBA history, and consensus 1st pick overall.
All in all, I think Victor is ahead, and that's all we can say right now.
As for the Spurs teams they respectively joined, as been said before, 22yo Tim joined a fully mature playoff team while 19yo Vic is joining a complete rebuilding team without many certainties.
One thing is sure, he won’t be pairing with Embiid in national French team, the big jerk just chose Team USA. That was expected when he got American nationality just after getting the French one. We didn’t want him and his diva behavior in France anyway. And he’ll be injured for the Olympics so it’s really not important at all
Why do you say that? He took terrible shots last year, and still shot 28%. He also shot 83% from the line on over 6 atts/gm, usually a strong indicator of future shooting improvement.
His shot selection is bad, Westbrook bad, but ofc, it will improve over time. The 3pt line is still almost a meter more far, than in EU, so...
Devin Vassell shot 40% from 3 in two years at FSU. His rookie year, with the higher level of compe ion and further line, he shot 34.7%. His second year, he shot 36.1%. His 3rd year, he shot 38.7%.
There is an adjustment period for young shooters, but to say that Victor will never shoot 30% from 3 in the NBA is just a ridiculously bad take.
Embiid gets to take the USA center slot without opposition instead of going against Gobert and Wembyanama.One thing is sure, he won’t be pairing with Embiid in national French team, the big jerk just chose Team USA. That was expected when he got American nationality just after getting the French one. We didn’t want him and his diva behavior in France anyway. And he’ll be injured for the Olympics so it’s really not important at all
Embiid is a coward
It’s crazy how playing for the USA team would be a “2nd choice.”
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