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    ˇPor Vida! south side spur's Avatar
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    His rookie year in Summer League, Murray (when he actually tried) averaged 10.8 pts in Vegas and 21.0 pts in Salt Lake City. The number you gave correspond to his second year where for some reason (probably being pissed or injured I do'nt know) he didn't even tried (0.176% and 0.316% shooting)... By the way, Nikola Jokic in SL: 8pts, 6rbds, 1.4 ass... So I guess Wesley is gonna be a multiple MVP.

    But that's Wesley's problem, which isn't trying, that's trying too much to do things he can't and not doing things he should. Give any of these kids the green light (like Wesley obviously has been by the spurs who want to see if he improved) and they'll post Wesley's number in SL... Maybe not the 3.66/3.16 ass/to ratio tho... It's not about the numbers, not to mention Blake is a sop re and those are not outstanding numbers, it's about his play.
    Murray averaged 12.5 ppg his rookie summer league. The fact that you believe this was Dejounte really trying and is some sort of validation of Murray outperforming Wesley is confusing. There’s no need to embellish.

    https://airalamo.com/2016/07/18/dejo...league-review/
    After Murray threw up a 21 point, 5 rebound debut against the Celtics in which he shot an efficient 8/12 from the floor, he began to show how raw he was.
    In the following four games, Murray was incredibly inefficient, as his lack of shooting and decision making overshadowed his natural ability. Murray’s four game slump made him look like he just wasn’t ready to contribute on this level, even though his potential was clearly there.

    For a point guard, averaging 8.5 points, one assist, and four turnovers per game is a nightmare. Even though his rebounding and defense were legitimate bright spots, Murray’s performance after his debut was down right awful.


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    Can apply to this current Spurs squad as well, imo.

    Playmaking by committee, we don't need one shorty pounding the air outta the ball or burning half of the shot clock trying to "set the table".

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    He'll have the rest of the off season after SL to work with the coaching staff after his recent play on what he should be focusing on and plenty of tape illustrating why.

    See how he looks after December then make a decision over the summer

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    Is it too soon to cut him? This dude couldn't finish at the basket if his career depended on it

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    On Blake defense, I think he is one of the better perimeter defenders out there, and that's a big start. His handles are getting so much better.. He is so much stronger and that would only help him finish

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    Is it too soon to cut him? This dude couldn't finish at the basket if his career depended on it
    he wont be cut, but im not sure its a lock that they'll pick up his 3rd year option. they have 2 weeks to decide that.

    with how many expiring deals we're already looking at though (mcdermott, osman, collins, graham*), i think they'll pick it up regardless

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    On Blake defense, I think he is one of the better perimeter defenders out there, and that's a big start. His handles are getting so much better.. He is so much stronger and that would only help him finish
    meh....hes just another cory joseph at this point

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    he wont be cut, but im not sure its a lock that they'll pick up his 3rd year option. they have 2 weeks to decide that.

    with how many expiring deals we're already looking at though (mcdermott, osman, collins, graham*), i think they'll pick it up regardless
    Wesley's 4th year salary in 2025-2026 is around $4.7M. If the cap goes up 10% each of the next two years that $4.7M would represent about 2.9% of the cap. imo that's little enough that it's well worth picking up that option because if he ends up being a late bloomer the Spurs get a chance to find out while he's still on the team.

    His roster spot is a bigger constraint than his salary.

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    meh....hes just another cory joseph at this point
    Wesley is nothing like CoJo in terms of skillset, but CoJo carved out a long career as a solid backup PG. Wesley having a similar impact in the league would be amazing.

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    meh....hes just another cory joseph at this point
    Don’t put Wesley on Joseph’s level.

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    meh....hes just another cory joseph at this point
    And CoJo on his 14th season??

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    Hi shooting is rough, but I am not done with him. Above-average defense. He'll work on the finishing. He'll be alright.

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    He's Lonnie without the jumping ability

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    And CoJo on his 14th season??
    i ment like average shooter with decent ball handling that plays d....We have that already with tre jones....Hope he would
    step up and end up being the starter for this team...Dont look like it tho

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    Gatdamn I can't say how wrong you all are about him. What a bunch of noobs.

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    Keep waiting for him to show anything. He has no court vision, he can't shoot, he can't hit free throws, and the team just bled points while he was on the floor. I'm seeing zero improvement.

    If there is a roster crunch, why not cut him, tbh?

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    What's the crunch?

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    meh....hes just another cory joseph at this point
    CJ contributed on a le team. He dunked on Serge Ibaka against OKC and helped turn that series around. At this point, Wesley becoming CJ would be amazing.

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    I have been a Wesley supporter but it seems like he needs another season in Austin if he wants any type of NBA career...

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    You sll know that PG is the hardest position, setting the tempo, distributing, creating offense. Already he’s above average defender, his handles are much improved, he can push the ball. It’s baby step steps to the toughest job in the NBA.

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    You sll know that PG is the hardest position, setting the tempo, distributing, creating offense. Already he’s above average defender, his handles are much improved, he can push the ball. It’s baby step steps to the toughest job in the NBA.
    He's doing fine. Just ignore the gaggle of idiots. They have no idea what they're looking at.

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    I think he's doing some things well and isn't likely to be cut. But I also don't particularly like what I see out there. PG remains the biggest long-term need on the roster at this point.

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    He's Lonnie without the jumping ability
    Please…..they are almost opposites. Lonnie played no D and was out of position frequently with low, low , low BBIQ. Wesley plays very good D, seems to have decent BBIQ but thinks he’s a mason.

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    Please…..they are almost opposites. Lonnie played no D and was out of position frequently with low, low , low BBIQ. Wesley plays very good D, seems to have decent BBIQ but thinks he’s a mason.
    Yes, thank you. Lonnie and Blake are almost complete opposite players.

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    He's doing fine. Just ignore the gaggle of idiots. They have no idea what they're looking at.
    I have a clear idea of what I'm looking at, which is a guy who isn't doing fine at all, and hasn't shown anything yet after one year that lets suggest he can have a real impact or place on this team.

    4 pts at 2/10, 4 ass/2to, -16 +/- tonight and not the defensive ace some desperately try to make him. maybe confusing activity and efficiency or BBIQ... Yeah, he's gesticulating out there, but to no avail and for no real positive production. I don't know if he'll ever find a place in this league but as of now he's a scrub who can't finish for his life at the rim, which in a team where Wemby will open a lot of lines is a deal breaker. He's still G League material at this point, just hoping he'll somehow get it there, but does he have the tools for that?

    That's just blind love, "hey look, Wesley is moving on a BB court!"

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