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    In the past 4 days Russia has lost more armored vehicles and ammo supplies more greater than anytime during the war barring the road traffic jam of tanks to Kyiv at the beginning. The Russians trying to counter are getting slaughtered. What a tremendous waste of money and men. It’s astounding the Russians are attacking just to say “we are attacking”. They are getting a military butt kicking right now.

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    In the past 4 days Russia has lost more armored vehicles and ammo supplies more greater than anytime during the war barring the road traffic jam of tanks to Kyiv at the beginning. The Russians trying to counter are getting slaughtered. What a tremendous waste of money and men. It’s astounding the Russians are attacking just to say “we are attacking”. They are getting a military butt kicking right now.
    This is NOT going to lead to negotiations. It is giving Ukraine tremendous confidence. The new US missiles with longer range are changing the war yet again.

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    Since they're not going to negotiate, it's a non-issue.
    Are you still holding on to the dream of taking Crimea?

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    Are you still holding on to the dream of taking Crimea?
    It's not my dream. I never said it was my dream. That said, the Black Sea fleet has already evacuated Crimea to where it had planned to go all along -- which is pretty convenient because that's what Ukraine wants.

    I have no idea why you choose to stan for Russia. It's pretty disgusting.

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    It's not my dream. I never said it was my dream. That said, the Black Sea fleet has already evacuated Crimea to where it had planned to go all along -- which is pretty convenient because that's what Ukraine wants.

    I have no idea why you choose to stan for Russia. It's pretty disgusting.
    Kinda like you standing for the repeated assassination attempts upon President Trump, Dumper.

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    Are you still holding on to the dream of taking Crimea?
    Russia still wants ALL of Ukraine.
    Is this a laughing matter?
    And this goal WILL NOT end with Putin in power.

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    It's not my dream. I never said it was my dream. That said, the Black Sea fleet has already evacuated Crimea to where it had planned to go all along -- which is pretty convenient because that's what Ukraine wants.

    I have no idea why you choose to stan for Russia. It's pretty disgusting.
    I don't stand for Russia. I condemn Putin and the war. I simply call it as I see it.

    I think continuing this war is a total waste of lives and resources in pursuit of a quixotic goal. UKR should have been at least trying to end the war, but there was no mood to negotiate. Now they risk overplaying their hand if they struggle to recruit more troops and/or military aid begins to fall.

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    Russia still wants ALL of Ukraine.
    According to you... I don't buy it AT ALL. I've already gone over the reasons enough times.

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    I don't stand for Russia. I condemn Putin and the war. I simply call it as I see it.

    I think continuing this war is a total waste of lives and resources in pursuit of a quixotic goal. UKR should have been at least trying to end the war, but there was no mood to negotiate. Now they risk overplaying their hand if they struggle to recruit more troops and/or military aid begins to fall.
    They got (military aid + boundless American cash) out the wazoo till at least mid January, '25 and much longer if that in the White House makes it that far.

    This has nothing to do with Z and hasn't since Biden sided them. This is twixt Biden & Putin, make no mistake. I'm pullin for Putin with every fiber in my being. I want that Biden defeatedPERIOD

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    According to you... I don't buy it AT ALL. I've already gone over the reasons enough times.
    And neither does peeg, but it's his strongest card and he ain't quittin' it for money, marbles, nor chalk.

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    According to you... I don't buy it AT ALL. I've already gone over the reasons enough times.
    According to PUTIN.
    He will fake negotiations and say he does not want to have anything but peace.
    Putin relies on US people like you.
    How did Putin take Crimea. “We don’t have ANY soldiers there.”
    Next thing little green men TAKE Crimea.

    How many times does it take for you to be lied to?
    How many other examples do you need?
    I can compile a list of what he has taken that he said he wanted nothing to do with.

    Putin said Russia was NOT in Africa. Well his PRIVATE army was and is. Now that Prigozhin is gone the Russian MoD is filling in for all the resources they need from Africa. All I can say is you just don’t know the history, or you think it will magically end. No one wants the US spending money on this. But if something is not done Poland etc… are next. Putin has basically stated this. We don’t need Germany in Russian hands again. It caused tremendous spending on Nukes that made the Soviet Union go bankrupt basically. It ended up helping us but at cost. To the world.

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    Ukraine!

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    According to PUTIN.
    He will fake negotiations and say he does not want to have anything but peace.
    Putin relies on US people like you.
    How did Putin take Crimea. “We don’t have ANY soldiers there.”
    Next thing little green men TAKE Crimea.

    How many times does it take for you to be lied to?
    How many other examples do you need?
    I can compile a list of what he has taken that he said he wanted nothing to do with.

    Putin said Russia was NOT in Africa. Well his PRIVATE army was and is. Now that Prigozhin is gone the Russian MoD is filling in for all the resources they need from Africa. All I can say is you just don’t know the history, or you think it will magically end. No one wants the US spending money on this. But if something is not done Poland etc… are next. Putin has basically stated this. We don’t need Germany in Russian hands again. It caused tremendous spending on Nukes that made the Soviet Union go bankrupt basically. It ended up helping us but at cost. To the world.
    He lies all the time. I'm not trusting his words. What matters now is what he is capable of and what is interests are. He is NOT capable of taking all of Ukraine. This is obvious -- ridiculously obvious. And continuing this war to actually try to take all of Ukraine at huge expense to him makes no sense when he can't do it.

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    I don't stand for Russia. I condemn Putin and the war. I simply call it as I see it.

    I think continuing this war is a total waste of lives and resources in pursuit of a quixotic goal. UKR should have been at least trying to end the war, but there was no mood to negotiate. Now they risk overplaying their hand if they struggle to recruit more troops and/or military aid begins to fall.
    "Might makes right" is arguably a worse philosophy then.

    And of course Putin wants all of Ukraine. There would have been no rush to Kyiv otherwise. He wanted to kill all the leaders there so he could install a puppet government.

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    He lies all the time. I'm not trusting his words. What matters now is what he is capable of and what is interests are. He is NOT capable of taking all of Ukraine. This is obvious -- ridiculously obvious. And continuing this war to actually try to take all of Ukraine at huge expense to him makes no sense when he can't do it.
    He can’t take it now.

    But what will he do when a peace is negotiated that gives Ukrainian land to him?
    You think he will spend money on the ailing Russian infrastructure?
    Money will be spent making Russia a purely military state. Taking Crimea was not a huge cost. Taking various parts of Georgia was not a huge cost. Taking Chechnya cost a lot of lives and got people killed in Moscow via rebel bombing.on and on…

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    He can’t take it now.

    But what will he do when a peace is negotiated that gives Ukrainian land to him?
    You think he will spend money on the ailing Russian infrastructure?
    Money will be spent making Russia a purely military state. Taking Crimea was not a hue cost. Taking various parts of Georgia was not a huge cost. Taking Chechnya cost a lot of lives and got people killed in Moscow via rebel bombing.on and on…
    Even if Ukraine kicks Russia completely out of the country, Russia can rearm and try again. We've gone over these same arguments time and time again. There's nothing new here that I see.

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    This is NOT going to lead to negotiations. It is giving Ukraine tremendous confidence. The new US missiles with longer range are changing the war yet again.
    Ukraine should use a couple of those missiles to sink pootin's aircraft carrier and other major Naval vessel

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    I totally understand your concern about spending too much money. There are things we can do before this in the military like keeping track of material that would save us much more money than what we are spending on Ukraine. We do a horrible job of inventorying, the military, and seeing where material goes. I will try to find an interview where Biden’s lady that takes care of military spending basically admits we have no clue about where a lot of the money goes.

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    YouTube channel "inside Russia"

    ... Claims 3 million Russians have left the country and they aren't coming back

    he claims he Exodus continues

    Russians taking their money and they're buying power with them which will be a huge reduction in the economy which he expects will collapse

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    Even if Ukraine kicks Russia completely out of the country, Russia can rearm and try again. We've gone over these same arguments time and time again. There's nothing new here that I see.
    Just outlast 71 year old puffy Putin and eventually join NATO once the situation is stabilized they way Ukraine wants. Pretty simple.

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    Bush- I looked into his soul, and I can do business with this man.

    Fool me once, fool me once, fool me again….

    Obama – I can work with this guy

    Hillary Clinton – he has a total belief in himself and the path of Russia
    Trump- I can do business with this guy, it’s like an art for me.

    Seriously how much more of this dumbassery do we need?

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    YouTube channel "inside Russia"

    ... Claims 3 million Russians have left the country and they aren't coming back

    he claims he Exodus continues

    Russians taking their money and they're buying power with them which will be a huge reduction in the economy which he expects will collapse
    Ukr has had an equal amount of guys running off to Poland and hiding out.

    & you were claiming with quite the fervor that Russia's economy would collapse over a year ago. Since then America has lost a full point on their indicator thingy.

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    Bush- I looked into his soul, and I can do business with this man.

    Fool me once, fool me once, fool me again….

    Obama – I can work with this guy

    Hillary Clinton – he has a total belief in himself and the path of Russia
    Trump- I can do business with this guy, it’s like an art for me.

    Seriously how much more of this dumbassery do we need?
    Just leave him the alone until you need Russia again like in 2 for the wet work.

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    I don't stand for Russia. I condemn Putin and the war. I simply call it as I see it.

    I think continuing this war is a total waste of lives and resources in pursuit of a quixotic goal. UKR should have been at least trying to end the war, but there was no mood to negotiate. Now they risk overplaying their hand if they struggle to recruit more troops and/or military aid begins to fall.
    You don't condemn it in anything other than assertion. You hold water for the RUS else.

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