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    Rough loss. Team shows what many were saying -- playing a full 48 minutes and knowing how to manufacture scores. The young guys have a long ways to go in those areas. That's to be expected. They don't just come mystically, they're learned over time. They were also against two of the canniest players in the league.

    Meanwhile, that foul trouble. I do think calls were lopsided, but whatever. If Wemby is allowed to play more minutes, this game is completely different.

    On to the next one.

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    Wemby has to attack the rim more instead of settling for jumpers all the time and our other players need to look for him more
    the problem is that he’s 7’5” and all of his jumpers are technically clean looks. I mean, if that’s the case he should shoot 10 3’s a game if he’s going to average >=60%

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    Rough loss. Team shows what many were saying -- playing a full 48 minutes and knowing how to manufacture scores. The young guys have a long ways to go in those areas. That's to be expected. They don't just come mystically, they're learned over time. They were also against two of the canniest players in the league.

    Meanwhile, that foul trouble. I do think calls were lopsided, but whatever. If Wemby is allowed to play more minutes, this game is completely different.

    On to the next one.
    we would of been alright if wemby didnt get himself in foul trouble....We were in it most the game..Wemby not getting the ball
    seem to annoy him and made him make poor decions on defence out of fustration

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    Great teaching tape, you gotta play the whole 48 minutes locked in! We were having too many lapses in judgement as well as execution. Jeremy and co must use their greatest advantage…..Wemby! This kid Wemby made some mistakes but his bbiq is not normal for someone his age; get him involved on every possession ( he’s our Luka, Greek freak etc….) Devin and Keldon and Doug on defense was horrible one on one. Overall I think pop will get these boys rolling, the talent is there but execution and attention to detail was lacking!

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    I noticed early on that Victor had one possession where he wasn't close enough to challenge a three point attempt, but still jumped straight up with his arms extended as a distraction, and the shot missed. This is a trend popularized last season by back up center Luke Kornet of the Celtics, and I think in Wemby's case it's a legit item for the tool box. He only registered one block last night, but the number of times players altered their arcs and missed, plus the number of times players avoided his zone-- not as in a zone defense, but as in his own personal zone-- was significant.
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    Oh yeah, subs ute Osman for Keldon like I said before in the starting lineup; Cedi’s ball handling , bbiq and defense would really help while strengthening our second unit.

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    Without any allstar/closer the Spurs will always struggle to win unless they build a big lead.

    For all the praise of Wemby ending up with Pop/Spurs it's a shame thee isn't any veterans or allstar to help him grow...

    Feels like a very frustrating season in the making

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    The Spurs players will need to realize it's really Wemby's team, so get him the damn ball.

    Pop didn't play Wemby to his strengths very well in this one, and really didn't set him up for success. Disappointed with the coaching and the overall game plan in this one. Coaching D-.

    That said, I'm anticipating seeing this young group morph quite a bit here in the opening 20 games, and see Wemby's rise to prominence with this group. No one paid to see Keldon hero ball at the end.
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    the average distance on shot attempts with Wemby in was at 17 ft. and with him out it was at 14 ft. The Mavs also shot a mere 35% inside the paint when Wemby was in but that jumped to 50% with Wemby out.

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    and I agree with the "C" for Pop; not getting his team to get the ball to Wemby in the final three minutes was egregious.

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    Wemby comes in and scores 9 points in 3 minutes the gets 1 touch the rest of the game. Everyone decided to play hero ball the last 5 minutes of the game.
    Yep, like they were still in tank mode.

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    Here is what pop needs to do during film session:

    ask the players to point out how many plays on video- does dallas ignore Luka or Kyrie when they are on the floor?

    show me where the mavs run 2-3-4 times up and down the floor with Luka never touching the ball?

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    Gotta say, I was very impressed by Dereck Lively. The Mavs might've found their new Tyson Chandler.

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    Just really frustrating watching Lively getting spoon fed easy buckets. Wemby should have 10 ppg just off easy looks like that. They ran the pick and pop action too often with Wemby, granted his three point shooting was good but they showed no creativity to get him some easy looks. The kid has a 8 foot standing reach ffs just throw it up there. Every single player in the rotation should be working on lob passes. Big positive towards the end of the game when Wemby went on that run. Sucks he got into foul trouble and was only able to play 23 min.

    I thought Tre Jones played a uva game, and overall so did the team it’s just their best player played 23 minutes and 19 turnovers isn’t going to cut it. Really sucks they weren’t able to pull out that W, the crowd was electric. Can’t wait for tomorrow nights game against the Rockets. It’s going to be a fun season.

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    if doug dont get his together in the next several games....He shouldint be playing at all...Would rather have champ or cisskko getting
    those mins....

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    Shame about the early fouls on Wemby and Collins, but the team played very hard until the final minutes of mistakes. Wemby is altering shots when he reaches straight up even if he misses the 'block'. He is going to be a monster. First game in the books and they learned how other canny players can be closers by drawing fouls and stopping quickly in the lane for a short shot. Also, keep Doug out in the last minutes unless he is on fire. He tries better on defense, but needs to be shooting lights out to offset his D.
    The team will grow in leaps and bounds in the next 10 games. Wemby will learn to manage his energy and what works or not. The team will be feeding him the ball very soon. A Pop coached team that used "4-down" for many years will eventually get those touches up.
    Fun game to watch until the last plays. Film session will clean up the mistakes and turn overs.

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    People thinking that Pop being a whatever coach the last few seasons was just part of the tank, he hasn't been at 2014 level since then tbh

    But melting down over a game 1 L is pretty hilarious. This team was historically horrible on defense last season, tank or no tank. It's going to take a while for them to get better in that regard even with Wemby. Like their ceiling in that area is probably top 22-23 in the league. Offensively, same thing, it's going to take a while for Wemby to learn how to get to his spots easier (might even take all season) and for his teammates to find them.

    One big takeaway from this game that I think will carry throughout the season, they're pretty damn good offensively when Wemby is on the floor. Like top 10 IMO.

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    Gotta say, I was very impressed by Dereck Lively. The Mavs might've found their new Tyson Chandler.
    ive been pretty vocal about how dallas made a commendable effort to put good defensive pieces around luka/kyrie. drafting lively and then basically manufacturing another FRP and taking Prosper there. in addition to the Grant Williams move, they also did sign Thybulle to an offer sheet, which ended up getting matched

    i still dont think Luka/Kyrie works. kryie's function there seems mostly to give Luka a breather, not really to be a complementary player to him

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    I thought the spurs held there own very well for most of the game. Like many young teams they played too fast/out of control at times, but the energy was great.

    I am eager to see them gradually start calling more plays for Wemby though.

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    Here is what pop needs to do during film session:

    ask the players to point out how many plays on video- does dallas ignore Luka or Kyrie when they are on the floor?

    show me where the mavs run 2-3-4 times up and down the floor with Luka never touching the ball?
    Exactly...Spurs are still running plays like they're a team full of similar talent guys taking turns getting their numbers called where they should be looking for Wemby on every possession. They need to realize that have an alpha now and get him the ing ball. was infuriating to watch in real time. Wemby definitely looked visibly frustrated a couple times after getting good position only to be ignored for a low percentage shot from someone else.

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    PG? Let wemby bring it up...He is best passer and let him shoot, screen for him.

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    Sochan sucks ass

    H3s like a jefferson without the ISO moves and much worse shot

    Should trade him while he still has some value

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    PG? Let wemby bring it up...He is best passer and let him shoot, screen for him.
    wemby had 5 turnovers in 23 minutes

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    Exactly...Spurs are still running plays like they're a team full of similar talent guys taking turns getting their numbers called where they should be looking for Wemby on every possession. They need to realize that have an alpha now and get him the ing ball. was infuriating to watch in real time. Wemby definitely looked visibly frustrated a couple times after getting good position only to be ignored for a low percentage shot from someone else.

    Yep.

    Need to add a grade for team performance. For this game it’s an F.

    Remember the Spurs players saying they had Wemby’s back? They lied to him. Too often - much too often - they acted like they didn’t even know he was there.

    Much more can be said, but there’s one thought that all the Spurs, the players, the coaches, and everybody else, need to keep constantly in mind. Which is:

    Wemby can leave.

    Did this Mavs game put Wemby one game closer to becoming a superstar for the Spurs, or did it put him one game closer to becoming a superstar for some other team?

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