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    Houston was strong at the rim all night. Once SA came together in the 4th they were the aggressor at the rim. Houston got away too many points off turnovers. Tre is the obvious better point guard but I would still give the Sochan PG experiment some time. If there is anyone who should bulk up a bit it would be Collins.

    Wemby and Vassel are bad mofo's.

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    People on DV/Keldon/Sochan for not being better at finding Wemby but Zach was the main culprit tonight tbh. Just bc Wemby sucks in the defense on the high/low doesn't give Zach the greenest light I've ever seen an NBA player have to take 3s
    I can’t remember the last time a center went 0/7 on threes. Got to be an NBA record.

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    Houston was strong at the rim all night. Once SA came together in the 4th they were the aggressor at the rim. Houston got away too many points off turnovers. Tre is the obvious better point guard but I would still give the Sochan PG experiment some time. If there is anyone who should bulk up a bit it would be Collins.

    Wemby and Vassel are bad mofo's.
    Collins really is my biggest worry with this group at this point. He’s just too undersized. This is the second time in two games I thought he was out of his league. He has heart but just a little too small. I wish we had someone like Lively or Duren. They would be such a great help for Wemby. I just feel like Collins is gonna continue to get walked all over. Can’t teach height.

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    OP really not gonna address the minute distribution?

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    Victor 1st half was a disaster. He had no feel for rebounds and his defense was bad.
    Overall his defense was not much good.
    His prep to the season was not that good also as ge was unable to compete 3 minutes straight.
    He will get better as the season progress but still...

    His 4th and OT was very good. I'd give him C+ at best.

    Spurs pretty chaotic on both ends. I hope to see the cire of this team after 10 games and the rotation. As if right now Pop us extending preseason.

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    "I like that Pop made it a point to get Wembanyama more involved."

    Yes getting the best player on the court more involved vs Game 1s freeze out was some GOAT, genius level coaching.

    Looking forward to more growth from Gregg.

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    I have no problem with Wemby’s minutes, for now. I’m sure Pop is not more concerned with winning than developing Wemby and not taking risk getting him injured. He is patient with the kid and for good reasons. Wemby will eventually get the minutes when his body is ready.
    You can do both at the same time. You can be concerned with winning and not take risk getting him injured. I actually don't think the injury risk thing is even real. And how do we know his body isn't ready right now? I wish Pop would just let Vic play until he either gets in foul trouble or he is noticeably gassed or he just ask out of the game. Playing him in these short spurts is just making him play to fast and try to do to much at once cause he knows he is coming out in the next 4 or 5 minutes.

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    Thanks for the grades.

    I guess Pop's minute (mis-)management of VW is just baked in? Looks like he is targeting 25mpg which is just insulting, tbh. At least at home on non-b2b, more than frustrating. I would understand if we're on a road trip or in high al ude, but at home with tons of rest? Putting him in with 90 seconds left in the first half was a head scratcher. How's he supposed to get any rhythm with these short stints?
    Was just gonna say this. Pop needs to get over himself and stop trying to be always different. Play your damn teenage rookie more than 25 ing minutes a night.

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    Overlooked is Keldon’s complete game out there. His passing is improved and he was a pest on defense.

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    Collins really is my biggest worry with this group at this point. He’s just too undersized. This is the second time in two games I thought he was out of his league. He has heart but just a little too small. I wish we had someone like Lively or Duren. They would be such a great help for Wemby. I just feel like Collins is gonna continue to get walked all over. Can’t teach height.
    Undersized? He's listed as 6'11" Lively is a couple of inches taller but Duren is only 6'10". Collins is slim. That's why I mentioned bulk. He's tall enough.
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    It's going to be a long year as we just barely beat a Houston team that has the second worse NBA season last year and were coming off a 36 point loss in there first game against Orlando this year.

    As far as Wemby I am just letting him play through stuff but I have no problem pulling him if he tweaked something, is gassed, or just needs some one on one coaching for a few minutes on the side line.

    He is still a 19 year old big so I not playing him 30+ minutes a game - I personally think he should play around 25 minutes a game and also play on some back to backs and see how he feels. One thing for sure is that every rookie hits that wall when we go deep into the season and I see the same thing is going to happen to Wimby.

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    It's going to be a long year as we just barely beat a Houston team that has the second worse NBA season last year and were coming off a 36 point loss in there first game against Orlando this year.

    As far as Wemby I am just letting him play through stuff but I have no problem pulling him if he tweaked something, is gassed, or just needs some one on one coaching for a few minutes on the side line.

    He is still a 19 year old big so I not playing him 30+ minutes a game - I personally think he should play around 25 minutes a game and also play on some back to backs and see how he feels. One thing for sure is that every rookie hits that wall when we go deep into the season and I see the same thing is going to happen to Wimby.
    This is the worst indicator of everything. Sacramento beat Utah by 16 and then a couple nights later the Clippers lost to Utah. I guess the Clippers must suck. This logic sucks and a lot of fans live game by game and never learn to use good sample sizes. It usually takes 15-20 to see where a team is headed. Most people have been here long enough that they should know that and not make premature statements.

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    Keldon Johnson’s defense was absolutely trash. This team isn’t winning anything with a supporting cast that doesn’t even try on the defensive end. Wemby, Vassell, Sochan, and then just a heap of players that aren’t NBA caliber starters. Probably should do something about that

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    Keldon Johnson’s defense was absolutely trash. This team isn’t winning anything with a supporting cast that doesn’t even try on the defensive end. Wemby, Vassell, Sochan, and then just a heap of players that aren’t NBA caliber starters. Probably should do something about that
    Haha i’m glad Spurstalk basketball is back. This is the dude who looks for my posts in threads and takes the opposite stance every time. I’m happy you still can’t form a cohesive, original thought besides being toxic and edgy.

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    This is the worst indicator of everything. Sacramento beat Utah by 16 and then a couple nights later the Clippers lost to Utah. I guess the Clippers must suck. This logic sucks and a lot of fans live game by game and never learn to use good sample sizes. It usually takes 15-20 to see where a team is headed. Most people have been here long enough that they should know that and not make premature statements.
    Yes, thank you. Every game is different. The Rockets played us twice already and planned for this game very well. In those games we struggled with their length but survived. Udoka is a good coach. Our shots couldn't fall and this set the team back. The resilience wasn't there, for young players, but it will be in the future.

    Meanwhile, we lost to a Dallas team with perhaps the best player in the league right now. And we might have won with just a few possessions if our rookie stud wasn't saddled with foul trouble or if we had some more games under our belt.

    It's all good. It's the NBA.

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    Great grades and a great feeling knowing we have Wembanyama on our !#@#ing team! Yeah it was a tough night for Collins at the 3 pt line, but he arguably had one of the toughest assignments of the night. Sending some help defense was smart, as Sengun is a great player.

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    i understand they dont want wemby guarding traditional post up bigs but if there was ever a time to get him a possession or two on sengun to disrupt his rhythm it was definitely the 4th. We've seen victor handle him 1 on 1 before.

    Zach has gotten taken to school by chet and sengun. Needs to figure out how to keep bigger or stronger guys out of position or he's going to be a liability in most match ups vs playoff teams when this team does eventually reach that level.

    First 3 quarters they definitely looked like a developing team led by a rookie, but that 4th and OT is a glimpse into what they can do with a little bit of time under their belts. Victor is a winner in every sense, gonna be a good run.

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    I can’t remember the last time a center went 0/7 on threes. Got to be an NBA record.
    0 for 12, Brook Lopez 23 November 2018.
    0 for 8, Nikola Vucevic, 15 May 2015.
    0 for 7, Wendell Carter Jr., Zach Collins yesterday, Brook Lopez, Nikola Vucevic (thrice).

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    0 for 12, Brook Lopez 23 November 2018.
    0 for 8, Nikola Vucevic, 15 May 2015.
    0 for 7, Wendell Carter Jr., Zach Collins yesterday, Brook Lopez, Nikola Vucevic (thrice).

    Yeah, I thought Vucevic had to be in there. Lol

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    Victor 1st half was a disaster. He had no feel for rebounds and his defense was bad.
    Overall his defense was not much good.
    His prep to the season was not that good also as ge was unable to compete 3 minutes straight.
    He will get better as the season progress but still...

    His 4th and OT was very good. I'd give him C+ at best.

    Spurs pretty chaotic on both ends. I hope to see the cire of this team after 10 games and the rotation. As if right now Pop us extending preseason.
    Can't give a C+ to a guy who takes the game over in the clutch both on offense and defense and changes the outcome... What is underrated on defense is how his mere presence disturbs the opponents... Bad first half, no doubt, but when it mattered, Wemby delivered... And to his defense, he got 2 or 3 hot potatoes at the end of possessions in the first half where he was forced to launch a bad 3. You can also blame his teammates for not setting him right, just throw the ball down there ffs... He was much more comfortable with Tre at the helm, reason why Jones finished the game.

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    Haha i’m glad Spurstalk basketball is back. This is the dude who looks for my posts in threads and takes the opposite stance every time. I’m happy you still can’t form a cohesive, original thought besides being toxic and edgy.
    Haha if you think I look to your posts for anything. I would hope my posts are the opposite of yours because you are truly a mental midget and haven’t had anything beyond an obvious thought in your life.

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    Are you serious man? Sengun toyed with him play after play. His one on one defense was garbage. It was literally just him and Collins in the post and that’s how the Rockets game plan was: keep feeding Sengun. The Spurs had to start doubling Sengun because Collins was worthless.
    Why don't you just give credit to Sengun? Why didn't pop put Wemby on him? Was there anyone else that Pop could put them on Sengun and not get burnt?

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    Undersized? He's listed as 6'11" Lively is a couple of inches taller but Duren is only 6'10". Collins is slim. That's why I mentioned bulk. He's tall enough.
    Maybe his lack of athleticism and bulk then? I don’t know. He looks undersized to me.

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    Maybe his lack of athleticism and bulk then? I don’t know. He looks undersized to me.
    They make him look undersized. He does a good job scoring inside but it's an absolute battle every time.

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    They make him look undersized. He does a good job scoring inside but it's an absolute battle every time.
    is that what it is then? Wow I agree, it’s really like watching an uphill battle in the rain every time. Poor guy.

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