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    Now that second rounders fetch actual NBA talent it will be interesting to see what McDermott (expiring) plus second rounders could get. The most obvious need would be a vet PG.

    McDermott and Graham for DeRozen matches salary wise and with DMR being a rental the pick cost shouldn't be insane. Just thinking out loud.
    If DeRozan's on the block, he'll get some actual suitors from playoff teams. He doesn't work on this Spurs team, in any case, due to his high usage and ballstopping. Nothing against him - I like the dude - but that's now what this team needs.

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    I think Wemby has 10 years of health like DRob. So I’m not willing to really chill on wasting a tenth of his career. Bc next year it’s chill out we gotta get so and so acclimated. And I’m year 3, chill out we were the 8th seed this year and had some playoff experience. And in year 4, chill out we made the playoffs again. And then 40% of his career is gone.

    I think some urgency is needed.
    After a few months, the team might have a solid idea of what this team needs. Whether that's enough to make a midseason move, I doubt, but going into next summer they may be ready to pull some minor triggers. I don't think they'll do anything drastic, but start molding what they have. My belief is everyone in the rotation will be much better than they ae now.

    Also... The WC is going to be incredibly different in three years than it is now. All of the GSW, LAC, LAL, PHX will be out of the picture. We'll see if Thunder, Wolves, Pels, Grizz, Nuggets, Kings can become exceptional, but a whole generation will be gone.

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    Maybe this is crazy, but I think this season (and even by the trade deadline) will very well prove out that we should be thinking about a Top 4-6 seed in Wemby year 2, and start making moves.

    I think folks (fans and media alike) are still underestimating this team a little bit. We are going to be compe ive in the vast majority of games this season, and I think it will be our inexperience and talent gap at a handful of positions that prove the difference between winning and losing. One of those (experience) can be acquired organically, but the other will require some dealing.

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    while I do agree that the Spurs need a PG, there are only about 5 players that would be a real fit for the future and none of them are on the trading block. I don't see a reason to give up assets to get a mediocre veteran PG, you might as well just start Graham if you are looking for that. The Spurs need a young, quick PG who can run the offense and is a threat from 3. And ideally he's also a point of attack defender. Those type of players don't grow on trees. The Spurs will have to wait for the right trade. PG should be the top priority for next offseason or maybe they can get one at the deadline if they are lucky.

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    It's not my job to bring in veterans. …

    I knew you were just talking and you couldn’t name anybody. That’s alright, no problem. Keep talking about players who don’t exist.

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    I think Wemby has 10 years of health like DRob. So I’m not willing to really chill on wasting a tenth of his career. Bc next year it’s chill out we gotta get so and so acclimated. And I’m year 3, chill out we were the 8th seed this year and had some playoff experience. And in year 4, chill out we made the playoffs again. And then 40% of his career is gone.

    I think some urgency is needed.
    So, now, you’re a doctor AND an NBA GM? David had a very freakish set of cir stances that led to him having almost zero core strength. He couldn’t lean down at the waist and pick up a cup off of the floor, despite his vaunted strength. With modern trading techniques, that could literally never happen again.

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    I think we could definitely use more talent at the 1. I at the same time do not think now is the best time to be buying talent for any position and am interested to see how what they have develops over the next several months.

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    David was also 24 when he came into the league, playing four years of college and two years of service.

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    I think Wemby has 10 years of health like DRob. So I’m not willing to really chill on wasting a tenth of his career. Bc next year it’s chill out we gotta get so and so acclimated. And I’m year 3, chill out we were the 8th seed this year and had some playoff experience. And in year 4, chill out we made the playoffs again. And then 40% of his career is gone.

    I think some urgency is needed.
    slippery slope doomcasting

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    Man that half court oop frm Tre to Wemby

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    Tre needs to start to help the development of Wemby... He is the only one that consistently passes him the ball perfectly, and doesn't have an "I wanna get mine" mentality

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    So, now, you’re a doctor AND an NBA GM? David had a very freakish set of cir stances that led to him having almost zero core strength. He couldn’t lean down at the waist and pick up a cup off of the floor, despite his vaunted strength. With modern trading techniques, that could literally never happen again.
    Funny bc I can’t think of a modern big man that didn’t get hurt. Big men just get hurt easier. It’s hard to think of one that didn’t. I guess Russell and Wilt and KAJ. But that was 50 years ago and far from modern. It’s also hard to think of one that was dominant for over a decade. Shaq? But if you just look at things historically, then big men get hurt and you have about a 10 year window with them carrying you. Even Durant (Wembys comp) got hurt and he plays like a guard.

    Duncan was done at 10 years for carrying a franchise. It’s why Kawhi, Green, and Splitter were so important. On top of Parker and Manu ofc. But 09 lost First round. 10 lost second round. 11 lost first round. Duncan just didn’t have it anymore to carry bad teams. We needed a team where everyone pulled their weight.

    Also funny all these things that only I have to obtain in order to share my opinion but nobody else does. I have to be a GM. I have to be a Dr. People who disagree with me don’t need these things. Only good ol KA.

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    … I can’t think of a modern big man that didn’t get hurt. …

    The injury rate in the NBA is 100%. Fortunately, most of the injuries are minor, and may not even lead to a loss of playing time. Let’s all cross our fingers.

    , come to think of it, the injury rate from being alive is 100%. Let’s all cross the rest of our fingers.

    You’re right that the Spurs should have a sense of urgency. The clock is ticking. As a practical matter tho, the Spurs can take advantage of opportunities only when they appear. I hope it’s soon.

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    Imo It isn’t unfounded. In my scenario, Sochan doesn’t work out as PG. that means we have to play him at a new position next year. So then he has to spend an entire year learning a new role and a new way to play alongside Wemby. And it’s another year of development that we have to spend on Sochan that I don’t think he needs. I believe we are going backwards on the development. Like get him to a point where he could possibly be a PG over a few years in development instead of just making him one. He has too many things he needs to work on if he wants to be a PG. dribbling, attacking defenders, setting up others, shooting, and even defense. It’s too much to give to one person with zero experience at it

    And you’ve never given your opinion one way or the other. That was my point. You just go after others opinions with none of your own
    all these skills are also important for wings

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    sochan will become a more well rounded player for this going forward regardless of whether or not he ends up as the primary ballhandler

    have a little patience and enjoy the ride. jones has done a really nice job getting things moving when they stagnate with jeremy.

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    sochan will become a more well rounded player for this going forward regardless of whether or not he ends up as the primary ballhandler

    have a little patience and enjoy the ride. jones has done a really nice job getting things moving when they stagnate with jeremy.
    I mean can’t I enjoy the ride of Wemby being set up properly AND Sochan being a secondary creator instead of the main PG. that’s the kinda of ride I would like

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    I mean can’t I enjoy the ride of Wemby being set up properly AND Sochan being a secondary creator instead of the main PG. that’s the kinda of ride I would like
    youre watching a bunch of kids, some of which cant even legally buy a drink, patience is going to be a part of this process.

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    youre watching a bunch of kids, some of which cant even legally buy a drink, patience is going to be a part of this process.
    That’s fair. I just hope we get good enough where we can be older. Bc we have a million picks. And I hope to trade them for an established all star and slide Vassell into the 3 role

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    this is why "we dont need to make a move for a point guard because blake wesley is developing" stuff never made sense

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    That’s fair. I just hope we get good enough where we can be older. Bc we have a million picks. And I hope to trade them for an established all star and slide Vassell into the 3 role

    Vassell is scoring 20ppg as SG and you want to move him. After seeing Pop play Sochan out of position you want to play somebody else out of position. Is lunacy a contagious disease? One wonders.

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    Vassell is scoring 20ppg as SG and you want to move him. After seeing Pop play Sochan out of position you want to play somebody else out of position. Is lunacy a contagious disease? One wonders.
    I think he means as the third scoring option.

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    I think he means as the third scoring option.

    Ok, I hope so. He worried me with that. Lol

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    Vassell is scoring 20ppg as SG and you want to move him. After seeing Pop play Sochan out of position you want to play somebody else out of position. Is lunacy a contagious disease? One wonders.
    I meant scoring option. He would be our 3rd scorer

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    Trey Jones is looking good so far this season. His court vision, passing and 3 point shot looks improved from last year; so far he is shooting 37% on 3's. He should be our starting point guard and its glaringly obvious.

    Makes me wonder why we are experimenting with Sochan at the point. He didn't have a problem coming of the bench at Baylor. Perhaps we are simply just waiting on Devonte Graham to come back from suspension and be the backup point and using this time to experiment with more position-less lineups?

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    I meant scoring option. He would be our 3rd scorer
    Bless you. Good man. Lol. The way things are going, I’m jumpy.

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