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    Fair point.

    It's hard enough to get people to focus on the present, recent history is inside baseball to most. You're not wong, but the current iteration isn't 2,000 years old. The Amalekites are most probably fictional.
    I don't think Israel could eliminate Hamas even if it tried. Another would rise.

    The USA tried to eradicate Al Qaeda, WMDS and political Islam and created generational outrage. Then it surrendered to political Islam in Afghanistan, the KSA and QATAR.

    Very schizzed out foreign policy.

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    Palestinians are Sunni Arabs. Hamas is Shia. While they are the 'government' of Gaza, I don't think that calling them Hamas' people if perfectly accurate. Similar to how we are beholden to the potential leaders we are allowed to vote for, I don't know that the people of Gaza had much choice.
    Which is what makes this whole thing a lot murkier. Things would be a lot simpler if this would be Iran just declaring war on Israel, because this is what this whole thing boils down to.

    What's inescapable is that Hamas has Israeli hostages and they took them to Gaza. That's where Israel is going to respond.

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    btw, some of the hostage families are calling for a ceasefire, so hostages can be exchanged.

    What do you think of that?
    That Hamas has no other interest than the destruction of Israel. I think they made it patently clear two weeks ago, and so they need to be wiped out of the map.

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    I don't think Israel could eliminate Hamas even if it tried. Another would rise.

    The USA tried to eradicate Al Qaeda, WMDS and political Islam and created generational outrage. Then it surrendered to political Islam in Afghanistan, the KSA and QATAR.

    Very schizzed out foreign policy.
    They need to turn Iran into a giant parking lot. That's what I would call Stage 2, and an excellent day too, tbh

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    They need to turn Iran into a giant parking lot. That's what I would call Stage 2, and an excellent day too, tbh
    Similar to Russia and Gaza, Iran has no choice in their leadership. The world saw this past year what they do to non violent protests.

    The Ayatollah and his council of clerics decides who the people can vote for and they run the judiciary.

    I wouldn't kill them all. Just the elites that are allowed to be elite in that power structure. The Iranians I have met, they all call themselves Persians because of the stigma here, are pretty good people.

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    They need to turn Iran into a giant parking lot. That's what I would call Stage 2, and an excellent day too, tbh
    .16 cents a gallon with The Shah.

    $5 a gallon with The Ass Wipe Biden.

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    The Poot!!!

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    Similar to Russia and Gaza, Iran has no choice in their leadership. The world saw this past year what they do to non violent protests.

    The Ayatollah and his council of clerics decides who the people can vote for and they run the judiciary.

    I wouldn't kill them all. Just the elites that are allowed to be elite in that power structure. The Iranians I have met, they all call themselves Persians because of the stigma here, are pretty good people.
    I agree. I just think that logistically Israel couldn't do what it did in Gaza and announce a week early that're going to obliterate the place, simply because leadership are the first ones to flee.

    There's also a pure cost-analysis, where it would be a disservice for Israel (and the West in general) to be caught into a long-drawn out conflict there, simply because you know bad actors like Russia, NK, China , etc would vie for that. Plus, you know those bad actors will condemn whatever they do, so it doesn't really matter.

    In an ideal world, Israel wouldn't be in an untenable position by a murderous cult, would be able to largely weed out innocent civilians vs the s , and wouldn't need to drop an H-bomb and reshuffle that part of the ME. But we're not in an ideal world, tbh.

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    They need to turn Iran into a giant parking lot. That's what I would call Stage 2, and an excellent day too, tbh
    well ,,,the world may in fact be coming to an end,,,nono and i actually agree on something,,,,will wonders never cease?(no pun intended,,,well maybe a bit),,,,no rest,,,,no cease,,,,

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    I agree. I just think that logistically Israel couldn't do what it did in Gaza and announce a week early that're going to obliterate the place, simply because leadership are the first ones to flee.

    There's also a pure cost-analysis, where it would be a disservice for Israel (and the West in general) to be caught into a long-drawn out conflict there, simply because you know bad actors like Russia, NK, China , etc would vie for that. Plus, you know those bad actors will condemn whatever they do, so it doesn't really matter.

    In an ideal world, Israel wouldn't be in an untenable position by a murderous cult, would be able to largely weed out innocent civilians vs the s , and wouldn't need to drop an H-bomb and reshuffle that part of the ME. But we're not in an ideal world, tbh.
    & not 2 years ago yahoo was in there still, with the wife stealin' Jew and in worse hot water than he his now with an impending nuclear bomb due any minute. Remember Harry S., El when the Yellow resisted..."Again."

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    Hezbollah defeated Israel in the 33 Days War of 2006

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    They need to turn Iran into a giant parking lot. That's what I would call Stage 2, and an excellent day too, tbh
    If they coulda, they woulda

    But they cant

    Iran is stronger than Israel militarily

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    Hezbollah defeated Israel in the 33 Days War of 2006

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    If they coulda, they woulda

    But they cant

    Iran is stronger than Israel militarily
    Israel has nukes tho

    but Iran has far superior conventional missile forces

    in the end both would obliterate each other

    the sad thing is neither US would let Israel burn, neither would Russia let Iran burn. so they would get involved

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    one of the greatest interviews in the matter I have seen tbqh

    Col. Macgregor



    "we are arrogant and we are ignorant"

    "we have to save israel from itself but we have no leadership, no strategy"

    "Israel is on the path to suicide"

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    looks like WW3 starts Friday nigs

    make sure to stock up on beer






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    As Effy states, you around long enough in the , you're gonna find out it's . The old Effy: with as fine as saying for a little crapper like him can create. The pisser. Here at the house I've co-opted it as my own creation. tee, hee.

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    Holy

    This planet deserves Armageddon




    "Global conflicts have a habit of sneaking up on money-managers...and even if investors expect a world war, theres little they can do to profit from it"



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    Holy

    This planet deserves Armageddon




    "Global conflicts have a habit of sneaking up on money-managers...and even if investors expect a world war, theres little they can do to profit from it"


    Someone once stated..."There isn't an ill wind that doesn't blow somebody some good.

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    If they coulda, they woulda

    But they cant

    Iran is stronger than Israel militarily
    Well, of course they can. They likely won't because they don't want to look like the aggressors. But, you know, that's one way to find a long-term solution to this.

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