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    If the Spurs could stop the other team from getting offensive rebounds and cutting on TO they could turn the game into something more defensive while trying to figure out their offense.

    I like Wemby but right now he is not boxing out in defense and has a hard time to get in position in offense so he is playing on the perimeter where it is not as physical, the problem is that he is a bad three point shooter.

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    Is that Pop has this thing about him where he doubles down on his bad decisions because his ego won't allow him to acknowledge someone else's criticism was correct... He still wants to seem like a basketball genius, and that there's some hidden thing that no one else can see, but will eventually see...

    So I fear that if the media constantly talks about how Sohan isn't a PG, and that Wemby needs to play more and have an offense that is centered around him, Pop will double down on forcing Sohan as PG, and running a glorified pick up game at the expense of Wemby's development and joy for playing with the Spurs...

    Make no mistake... Wemby is compe ive and DEFINITELY wants to win ROY... and if he feels like everything is working against him here, he is gonna be OUT as soon as he gets the chance... All because of Pop's ego
    Spurstalk isn't the media, although maybe after games Pop pours a glass of wine or two and reads spurstalk for hours to see what special insight and criticisms all us geniuses here have.

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    Spurstalk isn't the media, although maybe after games Pop pours a glass of wine or two and reads spurstalk for hours to see what special insight and criticisms all us geniuses here have.
    No one comes up with 152 straight games of this, you can count on that for sure cupcake.
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    TBH Pops should do whatever he can to make Wemby happy and put him in the position to succeed. Pops basically has tenure but he is nearly 80 years old and Wemby is 19 and hopefully has 15 years as a Spur. Pops is not going to be Wembys career long coach unless he coaches while he has dementia and is on his death bed. He should stop being such a stubborn wise ass or Wemby may eventually play his all time great potential unicorn card to management and have Pops packing his bags so the stubborn old fool better play his cards right. If I was management and a 19 year old generational unicorn talent had a problem with a nearly 80 year old declining coach I know exactly who management would have packing his bags.

    Addit: I don't see Wemby's number 2 or even Wemby's number 3 on this roster for a team competing for a championship so we need to do whatever we can to get those guys hopefully through the draft if we end up in the lottery this year or a high pick the year after and hopefully trading Keldon and Sochan cause I just don't rate them and don't see their fit. Management should be listening to any offer that comes across the table or be proactive in seeking help for this team. Hopefully we suffer this year while Wemby grows and we can nail a top 6 draft pick next year.

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    What people really don't want to think about is how much the issues could be Victor's team and Pop clashing. Wemby isn't Duncan. He's not an island kid with a semi-paternal relationship with his coach which allows him to trust the coaching he gets. Victor was already a corporation long before he was drafted. He has people who want things from him. He has his own idea of where he wants his game to go. The Spurs are a means to get there. They might be his only NBA team if things go well, but he will leave if he doesn't think he's in the best position to succeed. 100 percent Wemby would ask for a trade. Not this year, but early in that second contract. I think Pop's also trying to make Wemby happy by giving him opportunities that he (Pop) probably knows aren't really good for him. Wemby wants to be KD, and even though he should be closer to Dirk, Pop's gonna give him that chance and hope he can use Wemby's struggles to encourage growth in the right direction. This is what dealing with high picks actually means, and it's probably time for the Spurs to get used to it if their plan is to get another such pick next summer. While Kawhi was worse than average, his situation isn't that far off how it is to deal with NBA stars.
    Basically Victor's team vs Spurs FO plans not aligning. We'll see but I agree, he and his team might probably ask out for a better situation they think is best for Vic

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    The thing isyou can’t really tell a 19 YO anything. You have show them, and the way to do that is to let him freelance, and occasionally faceplant. That’s the reason for the mulligan season. Next summer, they can take him into the film room, and go over what worked, and what didn’t. There will also be learning by the Spurs. He might be able to do more than they would have planned for.

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    ^^^

    Zero accountability for Popped.
    Instead putting it all on 19 year old Wama?

    Maga s and Pop s have many similarities.

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    Every fan base thinks their ideas are better than the coaches. This fanbase is just more amusing when they do it.

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    Is Pop worried about Wemby getting hurt or is Wemby's stamina still not up to NBA standards? Pop keeps pulling him around the 6 minute mark and then putting him back around the 2 minute mark and he's only getting around 25 minutes a game. Pop is acting like one these old people that buys a Corvette or Porsche and never even goes 10 miles over the speed limit.

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    Spurstalk isn't the media, although maybe after games Pop pours a glass of wine or two and reads spurstalk for hours to see what special insight and criticisms all us geniuses here have.
    There's media members that have said this... That's why I brought up the media

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    What people really don't want to think about is how much the issues could be Victor's team and Pop clashing. Wemby isn't Duncan. He's not an island kid with a semi-paternal relationship with his coach which allows him to trust the coaching he gets. Victor was already a corporation long before he was drafted. He has people who want things from him. He has his own idea of where he wants his game to go. The Spurs are a means to get there. They might be his only NBA team if things go well, but he will leave if he doesn't think he's in the best position to succeed. 100 percent Wemby would ask for a trade. Not this year, but early in that second contract. I think Pop's also trying to make Wemby happy by giving him opportunities that he (Pop) probably knows aren't really good for him. Wemby wants to be KD, and even though he should be closer to Dirk, Pop's gonna give him that chance and hope he can use Wemby's struggles to encourage growth in the right direction. This is what dealing with high picks actually means, and it's probably time for the Spurs to get used to it if their plan is to get another such pick next summer. While Kawhi was worse than average, his situation isn't that far off how it is to deal with NBA stars.
    That makes no sense to me. Why would Wemby accept playing more as a traditional center in France for an unknown coach than in the NBA for, arguably, the greatest coach of all-time?

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    Is Pop worried about Wemby getting hurt or is Wemby's stamina still not up to NBA standards? Pop keeps pulling him around the 6 minute mark and then putting him back around the 2 minute mark and he's only getting around 25 minutes a game. Pop is acting like one these old people that buys a Corvette or Porsche and never even goes 10 miles over the speed limit.
    Just Pop overthinking things. If there was ever a time to be playing Wemby big minutes is now, when he's still a kid and doesn't even know what getting tired means.

    I'm obviously not advocating for running Wemby into the ground, but there no reason why he shouldn't be playing 32+ minutes every night.

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    No one comes up with 152 straight games of this, you can count on that for sure cupcake.
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    I'm no Popsucker I still get shudders when I think about Matt Bonner subbing in during the playoffs and Patty was a man of culture while Bryn had the photos from after the xmas party.

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    I'm no Popsucker I still get shudders when I think about Matt Bonner subbing in during the playoffs and Patty was a man of culture while Bryn had the photos from after the xmas party.
    Exactly.
    The precedent is there.

    Just .jpg dog praying someone in ownership and management is keeping an eye on strategy and development. But from what I've seen so far the current assistant coaches are just more ass kissing Yes Men and Pop will continue unchecked dictator. Becky bit her lip because cmon, gay women being given a groundbreaking lead or #2 assistant coaching position. She prolly felf she had to. Look at her now. I still remember that look that Timmy Dunks and she gave each other in what appreared to be looking at Poppeds starting lineup card and shaking their heads.

    Great win last night tho. And i myself like how Pop played Wamas minutes last night.
    For all his greatness he is still a twig.

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