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    You dumb s eat up what other dumb s claim on MSNBC, CBS, CNN, Fox, et cetera...

    Sure bro, sure, Ukraine is winning.

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    “Because sooner or later we are going to find that we simply don’t have enough people to fight.”


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    when hes right. Hes right


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    Ukraine!

    LMAO No one gives 1 anymore about the Rus/Ukr war. Time to blast re s in the sandbox again unfortunately...
    Low info Joey thinks he can speak for everyone when he struggles to do so for himself.

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    You still GAF. You'll never leave.
    Calf-tats with the war insights as deep as knowing that his mom is listed as owner of "his" tat shop on Dun & Bradstreet!

    , idiot did not know what I was talking about when I mentioned Dun & Bradstreet.

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    “Because sooner or later we are going to find that we simply don’t have enough people to fight.”
    The Economist: General Valery Zaluzhny admits the war is at a stalemate

    The course of the counter-offensive has undermined Western hopes that Ukraine could use it to demonstrate that the war is unwinnable–and thus change Vladimir Putin’s calculations, forcing the Russian president to negotiate. It has also undercut General Zaluzhny’s assumption that he could stop Russia by bleeding its troops. “That was my mistake. Russia has lost at least 150,000 dead. In any other country such casualties would have stopped the war.”
    I think that was exactly the hope of the Biden administration too but sadly it didn't work. At least the mainstream media is not simply cheerleading, at least in this case we get a bit of reality.

    Against a democracy, this strategy might have worked. Not in an authoritarian state when the leaders are not accountable to the general public in any meaningful way.

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    The Economist: General Valery Zaluzhny admits the war is at a stalemate

    I think that was exactly the hope of the Biden administration too but sadly it didn't work. At least the mainstream media is not simply cheerleading, at least in this case we get a bit of reality.

    Against a democracy, this strategy might have worked. Not in an authoritarian state when the leaders are not accountable to the general public in any meaningful way.
    ???

    I think this was in everyone's calculations. A stalemate is bad news for Russia. Sanctions are eating it alive and their economy predictably sinking.

    The only good news for Russia is the conflict in the middle east, where now resources have to be diverted there. Which might not be entirely a coincidence seeing that Iran is one of their allies.

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    ???

    I think this was in everyone's calculations. A stalemate is bad news for Russia. Sanctions are eating it alive and their economy predictably sinking.

    The only good news for Russia is the conflict in the middle east, where now resources have to be diverted there. Which might not be entirely a coincidence seeing that Iran is one of their allies.
    A stalemate is bad news for Ukraine. They have less manpower to draw from and are almost totally dependent on others.

    Russia’s GDP will expand by 2.2% this year, according to the International Monetary Fund’s most recent prediction. The war economy is keeping GDP going.

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    A stalemate is bad news for Ukraine. They have less manpower to draw from and are almost totally dependent on others.

    Russia’s GDP will expand by 2.2% this year, according to the International Monetary Fund’s most recent prediction. The war economy is keeping GDP going.
    Ukraine was always dependent on others. From the Ukrainian perspective is actually good news, it means it didn't have to bend over to Russia.

    Russia's exports are down considerably and the value of the Ruble is down 40% to the US dollar, and that's with a tight capital controls (https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/econo...ols/index.html)

    It's only a matter of time until it bottoms out.

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    Dan still carrying water for RUS. It certainly is a stalemate right now. Wonder how conditions might change after the rainy season or in 6 months.

    It became a stalemate once western artillery and air defense came on board. Before that, the RUs took Bakhmut and were gaining ground. Let's see what happens when the armor and air power comes online.

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    Ukraine was always dependent on others. From the Ukrainian perspective is actually good news, it means it didn't have to bend over to Russia.

    Russia's exports are down considerably and the value of the Ruble is down 40% to the US dollar, and that's with a tight capital controls (https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/econo...ols/index.html)

    It's only a matter of time until it bottoms out.
    I'm not sure what "bottoms out" really looks like but it may not even matter as to whether Ukraine reclaims all its lost territory. Putin's regime probably depends on the outcome of this war and he knows it -- I doubt he has a problem with his country suffering big time to grind out a victory on the battlefield and hold most of what he took.

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    I'm not sure what "bottoms out" really looks like but it may not even matter as to whether Ukraine reclaims all its lost territory. Putin's regime probably depends on the outcome of this war and he knows it -- I doubt he has a problem with his country suffering big time to grind out a victory on the battlefield and hold most of what he took.
    We all know what it looks like, last time it happened was a mere 30 years ago. It wasn't a civic revolution or anything like that, the bottom just fell out.

    I do agree that the regime wholly depends on the outcome of this war, which is even more reason to stand firm supporting Ukraine.

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    Putin is 18 months late.

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    We all know what it looks like, last time it happened was a mere 30 years ago. It wasn't a civic revolution or anything like that, the bottom just fell out.

    I do agree that the regime wholly depends on the outcome of this war, which is even more reason to stand firm supporting Ukraine.
    If we're hoping for a USSR collapse style econoimc "bottom" then we must be really desperate.

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    If we're hoping for a USSR collapse style econoimc "bottom" then we must be really desperate.
    Why? That wasn't even the first time it happened. Russia's ambitions completely getting destroyed by it's own capabilities is a tried and true tradition.

    I mean, Russia's economy isn't even that big. Right now they're on track to become the next North Korea, basically a province of China.

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    Why? That wasn't even the first time it happened. Russia's ambitions completely getting destroyed by it's own capabilities is a tried and true tradition.

    I mean, Russia's economy isn't even that big. Right now they're on track to become the next North Korea, basically a province of China.
    It's not the second time either. Russia was already in economic ruins after losing the war against the Japanese and bleeding cash when it collapsed in 1917.

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    If we're hoping for a USSR collapse style econoimc "bottom" then we must be really desperate.
    You're really desperate to bend the knee to Putin.

    Why?

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    Why? That wasn't even the first time it happened. Russia's ambitions completely getting destroyed by it's own capabilities is a tried and true tradition.

    I mean, Russia's economy isn't even that big. Right now they're on track to become the next North Korea, basically a province of China.
    Not only their economy, their population is really not that big, Russia is basically just a big blob of undeveloped land, which is more of liability then an advantage. Their land mass has everyone thinking it's this "big country", but in reality their population is barely double of France and not even half of USA. And it's rapidly dropping, not just aging like in the most of the west. Even before the war it was dropping to the rate of almost a million per year. Those are crazy numbers.

    And they are slowly falling apart. Just before their "special operation", they intervened in Kazakhstan, but Kazakhstan now no longer cares about Russia and is rapidly moving away from them. Azerbaijan retook the province occupied by them and Armenia is kicking Russians out and seeking new allies. Moldova has gotten energy independence from Russia and is moving firmly away from Russia. We'll see what the next year's elections in Georgia will bring, but they no doubt have taken note of how the Azeri retaking of breakaway region went.

    This is why the latest Dagestan "pogroms" are so important and worrying sign for Russia. Not because they care about Russian Jews or even Russia-Israel relations, but because they show Russia is losing it's grip on inner colonies. The dissolution of Russian federation is starting to move from provinces outside their "empire" to those inside. There will be more and more such issues and less and less internal control as the war in Ukraine consumes the limited resources. And unlike post soviet era, when "the west" was trying to keep Russia together and somewhat strong as a potential future partner, the breakaway provinces will find far more international support this time around.

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    If we're hoping for a USSR collapse style econoimc "bottom" then we must be really desperate.
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    You're really desperate to bend the knee to Putin.

    Why?
    To see that Biden driven before the horde. I want to see that lose to Putin, Dumper. That rotten , Biden.

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    We all know what it looks like, last time it happened was a mere 30 years ago. It wasn't a civic revolution or anything like that, the bottom just fell out.

    I do agree that the regime wholly depends on the outcome of this war, which is even more reason to stand firm supporting Ukraine.
    ...&, &, & get that 20% back, eh, chief?

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