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It’s gonna be up and down for sure but it’s frustrating seeing guys like Keldon and Zach freeze out Wemby and they stand there with their dumb looks like they don’t know how to pass him the ball.The overreactions in early November
Herro and Reaves both playing well in that one
both guys that can be knockdown outside shooters, and have enough ball handling/passing ability to run some point when needed. both so, so much better than branham
It’s gonna be up and down for sure but it’s frustrating seeing guys like Keldon and Zach freeze out Wemby and they stand there with their dumb looks like they don’t know how to pass him the ball.The overreactions in early November
Wemby needs a couple veterans that understand he needs to have the ball. All these young assholes trying to hero ball are messing up everything. You are not him. Not even close
branham is not a point either. He can be a good rotation player with instant offense. The guy is still just a kid.
Did Coach Bud 4dwn Giannis?
You only want to watch if they win?
i dont like westbrook but this is a of a story (youtube shorts dont embed here)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xYi0PBD78PI
I'd only keep Vassell. The rest can off.
Spurs are playing zone because we have personnel who can float and help D fast, i.e Wemby, but the best way to beat the zone is to knockdown 3’s, simple. We gamble, but not every night teams will shoot 52.6 from the 3.
People thought last year we were a playoff team and what happened - We lucked out and got the number 1 pick in the draft. People need to understand we just don't have the talent on this team I don't mind loosing/growing but there are only 3 things I am looking at for this season;
1. Can Wemby stay healthy for a whole season
2. Can Vassell stay healthy and improve from last season
3. Can Sochan play with Wemby while he is not playing PG
At some point, you gotta realize that the Sochan at PG experiment is doing more long term harm than good in terms of the kids' confidence tbh. They badly need a table setter besides Tre on the roster. I hope they can address it by the deadline but they absolutely have to address it during the offseason tbh.
Knowing the old man, he will play contrarian “Jeremy can play PG,” and run that into the ground all season. And then the trade deadline comes around, a trade we wanted falls through and it’s the ole “we like what we have,” talk.
I am somewhat of the opposite opinion. These guys look so damn constipated most of the time. We'd be able to lessen the blows of opposing scoring sprees if these guys were a little more unconscious, a little more confident shooting the ball, more aggressive at the same time.
All it takes to get our guys to stop applying pressure to a defense is for the defender to be even halfway in decent defensive position. Our guys will not even attempt to turn the corner on them, scary timid asses. And then we think forever about threes too.
Just for the other team to turn around and nothing-but-net 3 threes in a row from three different players lmao
I kept thinking "shoot the ing ball".
They're not competing. Their body language sucks. Why in the good would anyone want to watch a whole season of that ?
thats the problem when you assemble a roster with a lot of middling shooters. and thats even with Osman being uncharacteristically good from 3. branham, tre, sochan are all subpar shooters at their positions. vassell is good. keldon is... sufficient (but not when surrounded by other non-shooters). collins should be fine. he's had an abysmal start to the year but he should rebound. nevertheless, the exepctation isn't that he's a lights out shooter like porzingis that is going to bury 3's with just a sliver of daylight, but rather somebody who can keep defenses honest and not leave him unguarded.
victor is one of our more willing 3 point shooters right now, but he's not particularly efficient with them, yet. i do think a lot of that comes from his tendency to take bad 3's which drags his percentage down.
and then mcdermott has been lights out from 3 but is so bad as a defender and rebounder that its not even worth most of the times, but nice to have a potential spark like when he comes in and hits back to back 3's to keep the offense afloat. this team misses josh richardson tbh
7 games into the season and everyone wants to drop all but Wemby from the roster. Seriously, all these guys are young. They are going to lose some games by 40. And they will win some games against good teams. They will be inconsistent because young teams are inconsistent.
The Spurs purposely didn't add any veterans or make any trades because they want to see what they have. They will evaluate at the end of the season. By the end of the season, how we feel about players will likely change. And we'll know who is worth investing in beyond this year and who is not. But all these guys are young and there is a lot of basketball yet to play. If anyone here thought this team was a playoff team, then you have come with unrealistic expectations.
Just enjoy watching these guys grow and get better.
Well said. I still think they will be in contention for a playoff spot when it is all said and done though too.
They've played well for about 40% of actual game time and still have 3 dubs.
There will always be Homers until the bitter end to accept reality.
This is not a playoff team this year.
I get it and it would be great if the Spurs could make the playoffs, but the Western Conference is loaded this year. Just looking past the Spurs, who thinks the Nuggets, Timberwolves, Clippers, Lakers, Suns, and Kings are not making the playoffs? That's six teams. The Mavs are playing good basketball. The Warriors have a ton of championship experience. The Thunder have more advanced talent than the Spurs. The Pelicans are loaded. I mean, I see Nuggets, Mavs, Pelicans, Timberwolves, Clippers, Lakers, Suns, and Kings making the playoffs. Maybe the Thunder makes a move. The Rockets are all-in on trying to make the playoffs. I just don't see that the Spurs can win more than any of these teams except the Rockets.
A couple of counter points that I feel are valid
Vets are a very necessary part of a changing culture. TC was needed for David. Doc Rivers. David was needed for Tim. Same with Smitty and Kevin Willis and Mario Ellie. These types of vets change cultures and help franchises grow. It doesn’t have to be on the court but behind the scenes in practices and getting the team in the correct mindset. So by not getting Vets, that isn’t the Spurs saying that we need to see what we have. We could’ve still done that AND get good vets. They aren’t exclusive to each other. The heat for instance have the corpse of Haslem.
And second, most of our players aren’t going to be a part of our franchise going forward. That’s just a reality. You can choose not to accept that reality, but we have 10 draft picks in 5 years. Guys are getting replaced. Guys are also going to get traded. This team won 23 games last year. They are talent devoid. Even if they do grow, realistically only about 3 will still be on the team in 5 years from now.
And lastly, it’s hard to enjoy watching guys “get better” and “growing” when they aren’t getting better and they aren’t growing. I mean seriously, outside of Tre and Vassell, who has grown? Nobody that I can tell. All the same weaknesses they had last year, they still have this year. But this year the role players aren’t playing like role players and are freezing out the star player. To me, I want to see the general lead the the troops follow. And nobody is doing it. Zack shoots all the time, Sochan is a mess, KJ is hero balling for no reason. There’s no real pecking order in our offense and they’re sure as heck needs to be one. You need to have a pecking order in the game of basketball. Wemby is first and these primadonna players better start figuring that out fast and fall in line or else they are gone. It’s as simple as that.
Tre has been getting scorched on defense.
Both of you gentlemen were spot on in one way or another. Two 40 pt thrashings in 7 games thrown in with two spectacular wins at Phoenix. To borrow the yearbook video le of the 1989-1990 season, it’s gonna be a season to remember.Might give up 150 this gameNot sure how long Victor can play in spurts at this pace either, tbh
Well, first, I think it might have benefited the Spurs to get a few more veterans. Really it's just Osman and McD. I suppose the Spurs brass felt it better to surround the young guys with Tim, Manu, and Parker. That helps off the court, but obviously doesn't help them to execute on the court.
My guess is the Spurs didn't want to tie up salary until they knew where they wanted to invest their dollars and they probably did not have any veteran free agents that they were interested in. Also, if they don't make the playoffs, it's an opportunity to add more draft capital.
Regardless, people rip on Sochan because he's not a natural point guard. It takes most guys 2-3 years to become good point guards in the NBA, if they ever get there. People say...but Tony...well Tony did start, but he also sucked relative to all star point guards his first few years in the league. He couldn't hit a jumper to save his life and people backed off him like 5 feet. But over 3-4 years he worked like on his jumpshot and one year, all of a sudden, he had a lethal mid range jumper that made him almost unguardable for a number of years. Sochan has tons of raw athleticism and even though he's not highly skilled at any one thing, he is a guy that has the potential to become good at many things and is the perfect guy to compliment other stars. Give him time. Give Branham time. They will get better during the year and so will Wemby.
You don't quit on players two years into their career. At a minimum, you give them 3 years, unless they flash their therapist.
When the spurs are good, they are pretty good
When the spurs are bad, they are extremely horribly disgustingly bad
That’s a cute little theory you have, but it leaves out an important factor. Wemby can leave.
Wemby just saw Haliburton do a really sweet job of playing point guard. The Spurs don’t even have a passable NBA point guard. You think he didn’t notice the difference?
The clock is ticking, and it’s amazing how fast the time can go by. The Spurs need to get their act together, starting yesterday.
The Spurs have exactly one player whose development really matters for the future of the franchise. That’s the bottom line. By comparison, the development of Sochan, Jones, or whoever isn’t worth dog poop on the sidewalk. They are all replaceable, but Wemby is not.
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