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    Sochan was not a good pick for the Spurs. Maybe second round, but not a lottery pick. Duren has a much bigger upside, mainly because he can score and has an offensive game. I saw Sochan at Baylor and thought he was decent at best. I dont know what the Spurs saw. Anyhow, I like the young niggra and I do hope he surprises me and turns it around. But, I kinda doubt it.

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    His ceiling is probably Draymond Green.

    Triple Single with good defensive skills and some passing skills.

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    The biggest problem with Sochan isn’t Sochan it’s the people here who can’t understand that for better or worse… the PG experiment is what has Sochan looking discombobulated and out of character. He playing a role he’s not really built for. Maybe there’s a payoff at the end of the experiment or maybe not.

    But the argument is pointless. Now if Sochan were in a role like last year and struggled then I’d understand but this board really lacks the ability to see the whole picture before ing and moaning.

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    Regardless of whether Sochan can fill the PG roll or not, he will come out of this a better ball handler, a better passer and overall a better player. Doesn't matter if he is comfortable being the PG. He will still be a better player with the improved skills he will gain. Then he can go back to a "big" position and help dominate. We should have a dedicated PG next year. Don't be in such a rush.

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    The biggest problem with Sochan isn’t Sochan it’s the people here who can’t understand that for better or worse… the PG experiment is what has Sochan looking discombobulated and out of character. He playing a role he’s not really built for. Maybe there’s a payoff at the end of the experiment or maybe not.

    But the argument is pointless. Now if Sochan were in a role like last year and struggled then I’d understand but this board really lacks the ability to see the whole picture before ing and moaning.
    people in general lack patience. people want to see results already, understandably.
    but championship contenders are not built overnight. it takes time. even with a phenom like Wemby.

    i gotta see sochan, at minimum, until all star break to form an opinion on his PG play. until then, its all about trying to improve.

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    The biggest problem with Sochan isn’t Sochan it’s the people here who can’t understand that for better or worse… the PG experiment is what has Sochan looking discombobulated and out of character. He playing a role he’s not really built for. Maybe there’s a payoff at the end of the experiment or maybe not.

    But the argument is pointless. Now if Sochan were in a role like last year and struggled then I’d understand but this board really lacks the ability to see the whole picture before ing and moaning.
    Ehhhhh maybe. I just dont see Sochan as much of a sorcerer. Maybe a Bruce Bowen type player is his ceiling? Definitely NOT a point guard though.

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    Ehhhhh maybe. I just dont see Sochan as much of a sorcerer. Maybe a Bruce Bowen type player is his ceiling? Definitely NOT a point guard though.
    He dropped at least one 30 pointer as a rookie, maybe a couple.

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    He dropped at least one 30 pointer as a rookie, maybe a couple.

    Sochan scored 30 on 01/28/23 in a 10pt loss to the Suns.

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    Sochan would be fine playing his natural position. Problem is he is being shoe horned into a role he is not suited for

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    Sochan would be fine playing his natural position. Problem is he is being shoe horned into a role he is not suited for
    Shoehorning Giannis into that role, and JKidd absolutely played him at PG and would not let anyone call him a point forward, paid off in him becoming a superstar. Not saying that will happen, but attempting to stretch one's skillset usually pays off in some way.

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    Shoehorning Giannis into that role, and JKidd absolutely played him at PG and would not let anyone call him a point forward, paid off in him becoming a superstar. Not saying that will happen, but attempting to stretch one's skillset usually pays off in some way.
    I don't think that helped Giannis at all, imo. Giannis would have turned out the same whether Kidd tried that nonsense or not

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    brian wright has a history of making the wrong picks........plz look at his tenure with pistons he picked busts over players who became stars sound familiar haliburton/sengun/duren/ ...........wright was a diversity hire he was not hired on merit......

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    Shoehorning Giannis into that role, and JKidd absolutely played him at PG and would not let anyone call him a point forward, paid off in him becoming a superstar. Not saying that will happen, but attempting to stretch one's skillset usually pays off in some way.

    Giannis wasn’t stretching his skill set, tho. See the following.

    https://www.celticsblog.com/2013/6/1...okunbo-celtics

    That’s a draft profile from 2013. A pertinent quote:

    “Something that is apparent to almost everyone that watches Giannis Antetokounmpo play is his ability to command the point guard position. While he's unlikely to play point guard in the NBA, it's not out of the question for him to play in a point forward type of role because he shows exceptional versatility.”

    Giannis already had recognized point guard skill when he was drafted.

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    Patience dear boys……. 7 games in at a new position and this is the behavior ? This is the best league on the planet hes doing an ojt……just saying.

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    Giannis wasn’t stretching his skill set, tho. See the following.

    https://www.celticsblog.com/2013/6/1...okunbo-celtics

    That’s a draft profile from 2013. A pertinent quote:

    “Something that is apparent to almost everyone that watches Giannis Antetokounmpo play is his ability to command the point guard position. While he's unlikely to play point guard in the NBA, it's not out of the question for him to play in a point forward type of role because he shows exceptional versatility.”

    Giannis already had recognized point guard skill when he was drafted.
    Every year….. This isn’t a shot in the dark people
    the athletic: Jeremy Sochan scouting report

    Can be the ballhandler in screen-and-rolls as well as the screener. Shows real grab-and-go ability in the open floor to start the break. In the half court, understands how to get an angle and drive to the rim with good extension to cover ground quickly. Knows how to put defenders off balance with pump-fakes and jab steps, and it doesn’t take much for him to beat a defender because of his length and quickness combination.

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    This is why you give him more on ball time; Kawhi didn’t have this pressure year two ( hence the hof point guard ). Let’s stop trying to rewrite history. Enjoy the process big homie

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    brian wright has a history of making the wrong picks........plz look at his tenure with pistons he picked busts over players who became stars sound familiar haliburton/sengun/duren/ ...........wright was a diversity hire he was not hired on merit......
    Shame on you…..no respect for you kid! That diversity hire remark is out of bounds; oh just so you know, he’s the GM getting credit for drafting Victor ��

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    Sochan is a good player. Even if he doesn’t become a long-term point guard, this stint will hone his skills as a secondary ballhandler and playmaker.

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    I don't think that helped Giannis at all, imo. Giannis would have turned out the same whether Kidd tried that nonsense or not
    No. Him handling the ball that much changed him from a likely star to an All NBA player and a superstar.

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    Anybody can dribble the ball up the court. Sochan can guard any point guard or shooting guard in the league (he's got the foot speed and length) and he can post up and shoot over any guard or shooting guard that will be forced to guard him. Maybe he never develops into a creator or a floor general, but let's at least see what he can become. Otherwise, he's a back up to Wemby and the pick goes no where. Let's give him the same time that we gave DJM, Kawhi, Parker, etc and then in two years, we'll see how many of you are happy to see him go.

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    Sochan was not a good pick for the Spurs. Maybe second round, but not a lottery pick. Duren has a much bigger upside, mainly because he can score and has an offensive game. I saw Sochan at Baylor and thought he was decent at best. I dont know what the Spurs saw. Anyhow, I like the young niggra and I do hope he surprises me and turns it around. But, I kinda doubt it.
    Ppl always think Pop is some secret genius that knows better than everyone else

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    Regardless of whether Sochan can fill the PG roll or not, he will come out of this a better ball handler, a better passer and overall a better player. Doesn't matter if he is comfortable being the PG. He will still be a better player with the improved skills he will gain. Then he can go back to a "big" position and help dominate. We should have a dedicated PG next year. Don't be in such a rush.
    Hopefully maybe develop Sohan at the cost of Wemby's development by not structuring an offense with an actual PG around him... Gotcha

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    brian wright has a history of making the wrong picks........plz look at his tenure with pistons he picked busts over players who became stars sound familiar haliburton/sengun/duren/ ...........wright was a diversity hire he was not hired on merit......
    Crazy how there's tons of ty white GMs, and they never get told they were only hired because they were white

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    Anybody can dribble the ball up the court. Sochan can guard any point guard or shooting guard in the league (he's got the foot speed and length) and he can post up and shoot over any guard or shooting guard that will be forced to guard him. Maybe he never develops into a creator or a floor general, but let's at least see what he can become. Otherwise, he's a back up to Wemby and the pick goes no where. Let's give him the same time that we gave DJM, Kawhi, Parker, etc and then in two years, we'll see how many of you are happy to see him go.
    No he can't... He gets cooked on defense and he can't make a layup on offense... Dude backed down their pg last night and put up an awkward fadeaway that missed badly

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    Anybody can dribble the ball up the court. Sochan can guard any point guard or shooting guard in the league (he's got the foot speed and length) and he can post up and shoot over any guard or shooting guard that will be forced to guard him. Maybe he never develops into a creator or a floor general, but let's at least see what he can become. Otherwise, he's a back up to Wemby and the pick goes no where. Let's give him the same time that we gave DJM, Kawhi, Parker, etc and then in two years, we'll see how many of you are happy to see him go.
    I‘m patient with Sochan, but he can not guard quick guards and when he posts them up he shoots a fadeaway and clanks it at the front of the rim

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